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Silver Ignition 01-05-2015 11:08 AM

Local tuning shops who will tune with OpenFlash Tablet?
 
Has anyone come across any local/tri-state tuning shops who will do custom dyno tunes using the OFT platform?

With my mods I can easily fall in the Stage 2 EL e85 map but I'd prefer a more tailored tune.

BRZerk 01-05-2015 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ignition (Post 2077936)
Has anyone come across any local/tri-state tuning shops who will do custom dyno tunes using the OFT platform?

With my mods I can easily fall in the Stage 2 EL e85 map but I'd prefer a more tailored tune.

so most reputable tuners would be able to tune with oft, its just the fact that they take so long to flash, you are going to burn a hole in your pocket with dyno time, unless you etune

Silver Ignition 01-05-2015 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BRZerk (Post 2078057)
so most reputable tuners would be able to tune with oft, its just the fact that they take so long to flash, you are going to burn a hole in your pocket with dyno time, unless you etune

Yeah I've thought about this...I'm hoping the OTS maps only need slight tweaks to get to be perfect and shouldn't take too long...

Koa 01-05-2015 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ignition (Post 2078158)
Yeah I've thought about this...I'm hoping the OTS maps only need slight tweaks to get to be perfect enough and shouldn't take too long...

fixed :)

Liquid6 01-05-2015 06:38 PM

why don't you log some 3rd gear pulls and send them to @shiv i think he'll give you the best e-tune for price.

Silver Ignition 01-06-2015 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Liquid6 (Post 2078539)
why don't you log some 3rd gear pulls and send them to @shiv i think he'll give you the best e-tune for price.

I've considered that and even e-mailed him about custom tunes.....about 8 weeks ago...still haven't heard back. Every time I've tried to make contact with that company their communication is lacking so I'm not sure I want to wait 2 months in between tweaks...

Liquid6 01-06-2015 12:26 PM

Oh. That doesn't sound like them. Have you posting in the tuning section and tagging them? That might get there attention. But as far as I know most tuners don't what to deal with oft because it's open source. That's why I switched to ecutek. Plus the boost tho. Lol


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Silver Ignition 01-06-2015 01:04 PM

I just tried a PM to Shiv...we'll see

Liquid6 01-06-2015 01:11 PM

If not try a thread that their on like the OFH. Just to get their attention. Lol


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Liquid6 01-06-2015 01:15 PM

@moto-mike maybe he might do it. He's really good.


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steve99 01-12-2015 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2078180)
fixed :)

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hamzam 01-19-2015 12:07 AM

AMR in Mameroneck, NY can tune with OFT.

Haven't tried them tho.

Slicknick951 01-20-2015 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by hamzam (Post 2096064)
AMR in Mameroneck, NY can tune with OFT.

Haven't tried them tho.

Interesting i live close by but ive never heard of this shop. I need to check them out

Xero-Limit 01-22-2015 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BRZerk (Post 2078057)
so most reputable tuners would be able to tune with oft, its just the fact that they take so long to flash, you are going to burn a hole in your pocket with dyno time, unless you etune

That's pretty much what it boils down to. We can tune with anything but you're paying 160-200/hour for dyno time. After 10 OFT flashes you burned an hour. I can do that in 15 minutes with EcuTek. About half way into the tuning session you just paid for that EcuTek license and get a ton more features too. And that's not counting the time saved when adjusting maps. With the EcuTek interface it takes about 20 seconds for me to make relative adjustments with fuel/timing/cam/di timing and whatever else. Can't move that quickly with a clunky interface.

Silver Ignition 01-23-2015 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by moto-mike (Post 2101862)
That's pretty much what it boils down to. We can tune with anything but you're paying 160-200/hour for dyno time. After 10 OFT flashes you burned an hour. I can do that in 15 minutes with EcuTek. About half way into the tuning session you just paid for that EcuTek license and get a ton more features too. And that's not counting the time saved when adjusting maps. With the EcuTek interface it takes about 20 seconds for me to make relative adjustments with fuel/timing/cam/di timing and whatever else. Can't move that quickly with a clunky interface.

Thanks for the input.
And there's no way to do all your fine tuning with the ecutek and then just save the final copy of the tune onto the OFT? That sounds too easy...

NyC Zn6 02-17-2015 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ignition (Post 2102340)
Thanks for the input.
And there's no way to do all your fine tuning with the ecutek and then just save the final copy of the tune onto the OFT? That sounds too easy...

Hey did you get your car fine tuned on the OFT yet?

vgi 02-18-2015 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ignition (Post 2102340)
And there's no way to do all your fine tuning with the ecutek and then just save the final copy of the tune onto the OFT? That sounds too easy...

no. ecutek tunes are encrypted.

also, with oft it's not the flashing time itself that would take too long, eg 1 extra minute doesn't make much difference. it's familiarity with the software - quickly navigate to tables, quickly make required changes, select and log specific parameters, review log in familiar colors and graphs. think of it as if you have been using windows and ms office all your life and now you suddenly need quickly create and print a full blown presentation using linux and open office.

AZP Installs 02-19-2015 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by vgi (Post 2138279)
no. ecutek tunes are encrypted.

also, with oft it's not the flashing time itself that would take too long, eg 1 extra minute doesn't make much difference. it's familiarity with the software - quickly navigate to tables, quickly make required changes, select and log specific parameters, review log in familiar colors and graphs. think of it as if you have been using windows and ms office all your life and now you suddenly need quickly create and print a full blown presentation using linux and open office.

Mike Mann can probably speak to this better than I can, but I believe the ECUTEK tunes can be encrypted or left unlocked depending on the tuner's wishes.

-mike

Silver Ignition 02-19-2015 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NyC Zn6 (Post 2136859)
Hey did you get your car fine tuned on the OFT yet?

Not yet...I finally heard from Shiv about the e-tune...just waiting to pick up a header and waiting for summer e85 to come back...

nelsmar 02-19-2015 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by moto-mike (Post 2101862)
That's pretty much what it boils down to. We can tune with anything but you're paying 160-200/hour for dyno time. After 10 OFT flashes you burned an hour. I can do that in 15 minutes with EcuTek. About half way into the tuning session you just paid for that EcuTek license and get a ton more features too. And that's not counting the time saved when adjusting maps. With the EcuTek interface it takes about 20 seconds for me to make relative adjustments with fuel/timing/cam/di timing and whatever else. Can't move that quickly with a clunky interface.

Damn you have gotten it down to 6 minutes per flash?! last time I timed it I was at 12 minutes... I guess if you put multiple files on the OFT it saves a couple of minutes but the flash time is rough. I actually started flashing someones ECU with OFT last night, went to my car flashed it with ecutek on parallels which is horribly slow, then topped off my oil, coolant, and even warmed my car up... and my buddies OFT had finally finished lol... That and the fact I can't graph a MAF curve in rom raider or view total timing with IAM 1.0 to smooth my tables drives me absolutely crazy... The Rom Raider interface just sucks...

In all things serious yes you can do some minor tweaks in OFT but most tuners prefer to start from scratch... They don't like to use someone elses tune and stamp their name on it. Ive done tweaks to OFT maps for locals in exchange for a beer here and there and its usually just a 1-2 flash ordeal. So when you add the horrible interface, slow flash time, expensive dyno time... The time / cost just adds up in the end when it comes to a custom tune.

Liquid6 02-19-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ignition (Post 2138728)
Not yet...I finally heard from Shiv about the e-tune...just waiting to pick up a header and waiting for summer e85 to come back...


There's a station by us that's still pumping E81 you're not gonna find any better on Long Island


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Silver Ignition 02-19-2015 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Liquid6 (Post 2138908)
There's a station by us that's still pumping E81 you're not gonna find any better on Long Island


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Yeah I know there's still some good e85 out there...but between winter fuel and the terrible cold starts, I just switch back to 93 as a precaution. I sync my e85 use with the AutoX schedule, other than that I don't really need it...

vgi 02-19-2015 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AZP Installs (Post 2138692)
Mike Mann can probably speak to this better than I can, but I believe the ECUTEK tunes can be encrypted or left unlocked depending on the tuner's wishes.

-mike

I'm not talking about locked or unlocked tunes, the map file itself is encrypted and can be loaded by ecutek only. Another words, there is no way to save a tune in a raw bin.

NyC Zn6 02-19-2015 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ignition (Post 2138964)
Yeah I know there's still some good e85 out there...but between winter fuel and the terrible cold starts, I just switch back to 93 as a precaution. I sync my e85 use with the AutoX schedule, other than that I don't really need it...

Yea same here just a winter precaution to run 93 then in spring back to e85...i might choose the etune route just looking for a little feedback.

AZP Installs 02-20-2015 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by vgi (Post 2139696)
I'm not talking about locked or unlocked tunes, the map file itself is encrypted and can be loaded by ecutek only. Another words, there is no way to save a tune in a raw bin.

Gotcha, in that case I would just purchase the EcuTek lisc, they aren't that expensive in the grand scheme of things.

-miks


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