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Zoh 01-01-2015 05:37 PM

Choices, choices.
 
Hey guys,

I'm about to pull the trigger on a BRZ this week, but I'm stuck between two offers right now.

The first one is a 2013 in WR Blue Pearl (The exact color I have wanted from the start) with 26k miles on it. I'd have to drive about 7 hours each way to pick it up, it has aftermarket rims and the silver dash paneling has been replaced with a carbon fiber style. These are both things I like and want. The previous owner actually works at the dealership, so it should be pretty well taken care of and maintained.

The second one is in black (My least favorite BRZ color. No offense to anybody who owns a black BRZ here, I just think it's the color that stands out the least, and to be perfectly honest, I like the idea of having a car that stands out. In the 8 months I've been in Las Vegas, I haven't seen a single WR Blue Pearl BRZ driving around in my part of town. I know they exist, I just haven't seen one. Matter of fact, I've only seen one white BRZ driving around. I see a lot of FR-S however, and often in black. Heck, there's a black FR-S in my apartment complex from time to time.)

Now, that being said, the black one only has 75 miles on it. It's also a 2013 model as well and it was just never sold as it's in a very small city in another state. It's about a 15 hour drive away (Which I really, REALLY don't want to do) and is literally brand new, with warranty and everything. Additionally, the interest rate on the loan is a little better.

Respraying the black one is just too expensive to justify, so if I get it, it's probably staying black. I wouldn't be particularly unhappy with the car, I'm sure, especially if I get some all black rims for it. Maybe even do a clear, matte bra or something to make it more unique. When it comes down to it, it's still my dream car, just not the color I want it in.

The net cost is about the same before the financing, so the lower APR one will save me money in the long run, however money has never been a big deal to me. I'm not rich, but I'm not poor either, and I don't mind spending extra over the years to make sure I'm 100% happy with my purchase.

I'm wondering your guys thoughts? I'm really a 50/50 split here and don't know which to go with.

themadscientist 01-01-2015 06:23 PM

Easy, blue one.

Look at you trying to sell yourself on the black one. You're never going to be happy with that car no matter how much more sense it makes on paper.

Burrcold 01-01-2015 06:56 PM

Black. New. Full warranty.

cjd 01-01-2015 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themadscientist (Post 2074688)
Easy, blue one.

Look at you trying to sell yourself on the black one. You're never going to be happy with that car no matter how much more sense it makes on paper.

I bet with a little leg work you can find an equally good deal on the financing. Get the car you want, not almost what you want...

Zoh 01-01-2015 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themadscientist (Post 2074688)
Easy, blue one.

Look at you trying to sell yourself on the black one. You're never going to be happy with that car no matter how much more sense it makes on paper.

Am I that transparent? Hahaha

Zoh 01-01-2015 07:08 PM

Also, for the first time today, an hour after that post, I see a Blue Pearl BRZ driving down the strip. It almost feels like a sign. Such a beautiful color car...

kberkel 01-01-2015 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themadscientist (Post 2074688)
Easy, blue one.

Look at you trying to sell yourself on the black one. You're never going to be happy with that car no matter how much more sense it makes on paper.

.

I'll never own another black car as a DD. Too hard to keep looking perfect.

themadscientist 01-01-2015 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoh (Post 2074709)
Am I that transparent? Hahaha


No, it just sounds EXACTLY like a similar quandary I had when I switched my color from WR blue to white when i saw the dealer's white one. After a week of trying to justify the white I just came to terms with the fact that blue is the color for me. I had to change my order which will delay delivery of my car, but I immediately felt relieved.

Formula Vee 01-01-2015 07:56 PM

Most of what you wrote suggests that you really only want the WRB one. I'd go for it.

Turbowned 01-01-2015 08:11 PM

No 14's or 15's in a desirable color where you are?

N_A 01-01-2015 08:25 PM

Get the blue one. Or find another WRB one. Don't get the color you don't really want. I love my black FRS. But every time I see an Ultramarine or the Ignition Silver, I feel like I should've waited to get the color I really want.

themadscientist 01-01-2015 08:34 PM

I thought about black. I thought a black car with black rims would look nice and sinister. I owned a black car before, though, and I remember what a bitch it is to keep a black car clean. Never again.

Speed2th 01-01-2015 08:34 PM

Blue one, it is like marry the women you truly loved, even though she had a bit history.

gravitylover 01-01-2015 08:46 PM

Keep searching. There IS a blue one available and it will be new or at least newer and the price will be so close to the same the distance from you won't matter.

dtrop 01-01-2015 10:13 PM

It would help us a little bit if you shared the prices of these cars.

Honestly, even though the blue one is from someone who worked at the dealership, that still doesn't mean it wasn't beat.

Letting us know the prices of these cars will inform is of your budget.

Here's what I suggest:

Although you stated that money could be a little tight, adding a few thousand to a loan isn't that awful. I would work with the best dealership in the area to ship you a car from another dealership that might have 2014s or 2015s in stock.

Unless you got a smoking deal on the blue one, I would definitely wait.

Koa 01-01-2015 10:42 PM

Why does it have to be this WRB one? 27k miles on one, 75 miles on the other.. the only difference being paint (we aren't counting the extras that come with the WRB- that shouldn't have much sway at all when such a high mileage is attached to the platform). Same cost. Lower APR, yea, sure, but the principal is what matters. Dtrop hit the nail on the head- no guarantee this 27k one wasn't beat on... I'd say be patient and vigilant, and you'll find a new WRB for the black price.

EAGLE5 01-01-2015 10:56 PM

Just wait. More will be available in the color you want, and not 7 stupid hours away.

N1rve 01-02-2015 01:30 AM

I'd either jump on WRB if you really wanted it now... or wait for another one.

I wouldn't settle for less.

GreenMonster 01-02-2015 07:18 AM

Black and Blue are my two favorite colors for the twins. Lots of black available in my area, but not so many blue ones.

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 2074871)
Just wait. More will be available in the color you want, and not 7 stupid hours away.

:word: I've been tracking twins for almost a year now, and they do come up often enough.

x1UP 01-02-2015 08:35 AM

I say wait for a new WRB one. Try to do a lot of research so that you can find the one you want.

DarkSunrise 01-02-2015 09:13 AM

+1 on waiting.

If you need to buy soon, push hard for a better price on the blue one. It's supposedly a buyer's market for these cars, so use that to your advantage.

strat61caster 01-02-2015 12:50 PM

Definitely don't get the black one.

Wait for a better WRB, if you're willing to drive 14+ hours that means you have access to Los Angeles (only around 9 hours drive), I found 24 WRB BRZ's searching cars.com:

http://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchr...=GN_REFINEMENT

Your budget obviously plays a huge factor, if you've got a $20k ceiling then maybe those two cars are the best you're going to see for a month or two.

Imrac 01-02-2015 01:14 PM

75 test drive miles are probably harder on the car then the 29,000 commuter miles :P

Zoh 01-02-2015 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 2074871)
Just wait. More will be available in the color you want, and not 7 stupid hours away.

I live in Las Vegas. The ONE dealership we have in town is known for shady markups and is on the blacklist thread :/
Any major city is going to be a minimum of about a 4 hour drive from me. I don't have many options. :/

The price the WRB one was offered to me for was $23k out the door.

I haven't really seen many changes from 2013/2015 to justify the price difference if I can get a 2013 that's well taken care of, unless someone can correct me?

As far as I know, the only real differences are:
Aha Audio
Shark fin antenna
Larger tailpipes
Carbon fiber center console trim (Which the one I'm looking at already has had modified)
Better suspension

strat61caster 01-02-2015 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoh (Post 2075313)
I haven't really seen many changes from 2013/2015 to justify the price difference if I can get a 2013 that's well taken care of, unless someone can correct me?

You're 100% right on there in my opinion, but your saving at most $3,000 in exchange for nearly 30,000 miles, not a good trade off in my opinion. Don't forget Heuberger in Colorado has a great reputation and often sells for under MSRP shipped to your door with <20 miles on the odo.

On your average economy car you're basically guaranteed no issues in the first 30,000 miles, after that is when little things (and big ones) start popping up, as much as I hate to say it I wouldn't touch a Toyobaru with 30,000+ miles for more than $20k, it could be one Sunday drive away from leaving me stranded with a clutch in many pieces after all.

A guy who went through the trouble of putting shiny wheels and wrapping the dash didn't just gently commute on it, I guarantee it's been bounced off the revlimiter a few times and in my opinion, that's just fine, you will likely do the same with no issue, but I'd want a bigger discount than what that dealer is currently offering.

Of course if that's the car you want and you come home with a smile on your face and sleep easy then it was the right decision.

:cheers:

Edit:

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/de...7601/overview/
12 hour drive instead of 14, 7,000 fewer miles on it, $2,000 cheaper, dealer buyback due to the chirping fuel pump, if they can provide all the documentation on it you'll save yourself 2 hours and $2,000.

B-R-Z 01-02-2015 02:53 PM

+1 on waiting. Find one that is untouched, I don't care if the guy works at the dealership, it probably has been beaten on to some degree. Plus, I personally would not buy a car with any modifications, even if they are only interior/cosmetic.

EAGLE5 01-02-2015 03:47 PM

Don't buy from a dealer then. Or talk to that guy who specializes in shipping cars out. Huringer or something. Can't remember the name.

https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/sear...oMakeModel=brz

The changes between years are pretty insignificant. I LIKE the FR-S suspension, tail happy as it is. It really teaches you how to pay attention while having fun. BRZ's suspension is even less different, AFAIK. Supposedly all the BRZ headunits are a pain in the ass anyway. If you really want a good stereo, you have to go aftermarket. It's not like that dealer is going to give you good service no matter what, so fuck 'em.





Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoh (Post 2075313)
I live in Las Vegas. The ONE dealership we have in town is known for shady markups and is on the blacklist thread :/
Any major city is going to be a minimum of about a 4 hour drive from me. I don't have many options. :/

The price the WRB one was offered to me for was $23k out the door.

I haven't really seen many changes from 2013/2015 to justify the price difference if I can get a 2013 that's well taken care of, unless someone can correct me?

As far as I know, the only real differences are:
Aha Audio
Shark fin antenna
Larger tailpipes
Carbon fiber center console trim (Which the one I'm looking at already has had modified)
Better suspension


chubky 01-02-2015 08:34 PM

Go with the color you want! I had to decide between an AT or MT when buying my Monogram FR-S. The AT had the color I wanted, the MT was in white. I wanted a MT in asphalt. I ended up going with the color and am pretty happy with my choice. Also, for what it's worth, whenever I tell people the choice I had to make, they all say "it's a nice color." I'm sure you'll get the response when telling your story if you go with the blue. It's a sweet color. At the end of the day this whole decision seems like it's about the color, all else pretty much ends up the same in the long run, warranty will eventually be gone, you'll have a bunch of miles on the car, but the color of what's in your garage (or parking spot) will be the same.

Just my thought. Either way, it'll be one fun car to drive around!

Zoh 01-02-2015 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2075349)
http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/de...7601/overview/
12 hour drive instead of 14, 7,000 fewer miles on it, $2,000 cheaper, dealer buyback due to the chirping fuel pump, if they can provide all the documentation on it you'll save yourself 2 hours and $2,000.

I actually contacted these guys a few days ago. It's only about $400 less, but I'm still waiting in them to get back to me. It's been about 3 days. :/

Also, I'm saving way more than $3k, surely? I mean, a Limited 2015 goes for about 27k-28k before taxes and fees. This is around 30k-31k out the door. I'm looking at about 23k out the door on this current one. Surely it's worth saving ~$8000 to buy a used one? Not to mention, 30k would be a stretch and I really don't want the premium version either. I like the luxuries/amenities the limited has.

chaoskaze 01-02-2015 09:37 PM

I hope the white one u see around aint me. ;) but I would say wait more. & just so u know I drove to colorado springs to pick up mine....should have got a week off and visit pikes peak instead of doing it in 3 days... wont do it again.

chaoskaze 01-02-2015 09:39 PM

Btw check out Findlay Subaru in St. George Utah. A friend of mine friend drive all the way there for service & shit. LoL

Zoh 01-02-2015 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 2075907)
I hope the white one u see around aint me. ;) but I would say wait more. & just so u know I drove to colorado springs to pick up mine....should have got a week off and visit pikes peak instead of doing it in 3 days... wont do it again.

Haha, I only saw it one time driving up Frank Sinatra behind Caesar's Palace heading North. It was months ago, too. Lol

I probably should wait, but what am I really waiting for? Lower mileage? Better credit score for better APR?

chaoskaze 01-03-2015 07:51 PM

Wait for better deals, I didn't wait for mine cuz it's sorta *limited but there are still some of them around or even used one with less then 3k mile. If i have the chance to redo it all , I would have just waited it out a bit longer.

It's still in production so there is no shortage of them, it's just "u" wanting the car badly. =p

Ganthrithor 01-03-2015 09:59 PM

Get the color you want. You'll be much happier in the end.

Zoh 01-03-2015 11:48 PM

Yeah. I had the chance to think about it, since the dealership kinda screwed me around with the blue one. I've decided that I'm probably just going to wait. I have other things I should take care of in the meantime. I'll spend a little bit of money fixing up my piece of junk Versa that I hate with a fiery passion, then get the car a few months down the line.

chaoskaze 01-05-2015 12:57 PM

Wait wut is there to fix in a versa?.... I remember I beat recklessly on my CRV even take it offroad whenever the chance is given. But it just take it like a champ & I always change oil late! Man I miss that thing.

Zoh 01-06-2015 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 2078074)
Wait wut is there to fix in a versa?.... I remember I beat recklessly on my CRV even take it offroad whenever the chance is given. But it just take it like a champ & I always change oil late! Man I miss that thing.

It needs a new front bumper, headlight enclosures, hubcaps, some minor paint on the rear bumper, new plastic housing inside the rear hatch, and new brake rotors at the very least. :/

chaoskaze 01-07-2015 01:41 AM

brake rotors are not hard, hubcaps are cheap, ignore the minor paint on rear bumper, headlight u should probably dig ebay & is easy to find replacement.

As for bumper... I don't know cuz I never took off bumper. hahaha


Also another thing is that I think some mexican shop can help u do wut u need for dirt cheap.... /shhhhhh


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