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fantah 12-22-2014 05:16 PM

Clutch Fork Squeaks
 
Hi everyone,


So I'm 36k miles and the other day when depressing the clutch pedal I had the sound like a leaking master or slave cylinder, but as it turns out it may be just the clutch fork. This apparently happens a lot on our cars and just wanted to inform you all that you can get marine grease and lather that sucker on the unit. :)

Sigh-on-Rice 12-22-2014 05:30 PM

Mine has been doing that for the last 4k miles. It started when it reached 20k miles. I've been keeping an eye on this thread, but there doesn't seem to be many people with this problem compared to the other problems. The thread gets buried quickly.

How easy is it to do this? I'm debating to bring my car to Servco because this only happens after I drive it for 1/2 hour. They usually take the car early in the morning and don't work on it until later. The noise would go away by then.

fantah 12-22-2014 07:44 PM

Its exposed. No tools needed. Just wipe away the old gunk with a towel and smudge on the new lube. 30 secs. The logest part of this process is going to the store and buying haha. Ill include pictures in next post


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Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice (Post 2065483)
Mine has been doing that for the last 4k miles. It started when it reached 20k miles. I've been keeping an eye on this thread, but there doesn't seem to be many people with this problem compared to the other problems. The thread gets buried quickly.

How easy is it to do this? I'm debating to bring my car to Servco because this only happens after I drive it for 1/2 hour. They usually take the car early in the morning and don't work on it until later. The noise would go away by then.


fantah 12-22-2014 07:51 PM

Oh after you lupe, the sound will still be there give it about a day for it to work in. Here's the pic.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Cooperdh 12-27-2014 01:55 PM

I had this problem and took it into the Toyota shop last week. They lubed it and told me to give it a week or two. The noise went away but is back again. I don't really want to go back to the shop again but looks like I may have to.

fantah 12-28-2014 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooperdh (Post 2069905)
I had this problem and took it into the Toyota shop last week. They lubed it and told me to give it a week or two. The noise went away but is back again. I don't really want to go back to the shop again but looks like I may have to.



Keep putting marine grease on it. It'll go away.

Cooperdh 03-21-2015 01:29 PM

Update
 
So the squeaking came back and I took it to the Toyota dealer yesterday. They spent about an hour working on it and I drove away to do some errands. Sure enough, the squeaking came back. I was pissed to say the least and drove it back to the dealer. The technician took a look at it and confirmed that the noise was coming from the inside as opposed to the exposed clutch area. They took an hour researching the issue and the rep told me that the technician spoke to Toyota's engineers and they only found one case where this was an issue. In that case, they opened up the transmission and determined that it was a lubrication issue. He told me that if it was a lubrication issue, it would not be covered under the warranty and I would have to pay for it.

The rep said that it could also be a clutch issue in which case it would also not be covered. He said that they could open it up and if there is indeed a part that is covered under the warranty, then no problem. I asked him if the one case that was a lube issue, did the customer have to pay. He couldn't tell me so I spoke to the service manager. I explained to him what was going on and he said the squeaking was actual common. I was pissed and told him that was not what the rep told me. Any way, he spoke to Toyota and they will cover the charge to open it up and lube the fork or fix any other problems, except if it is the clutch. I said fine, do it.

I spoke to a tech at a different place and he said it sounded like the throw out bearing. He said Subaru has had this problem and it was just a matter of replacing it and putting a rubber sleeve around it to protect it. I will find out Monday what happens.

Cooperdh 03-23-2015 10:30 PM

I got my car back today and the tech told me that it was just a lubrication issue. He said the fork was bone dry. They did not charge me for the service and it is now running like a champ.

Sigh-on-Rice 04-27-2015 10:34 PM

Anyone got this fixed by Servco? Just wondering if anyone already got it fixed by them. I'm taking mine in next week.

fantah 04-28-2015 11:01 PM

No point having them take your car for over an hour haha... Just get marine grease ($5) and grease the fork location, just make sure to clean it first. Takes less than 5 mins of work.


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Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice (Post 2229310)
Anyone got this fixed by Servco? Just wondering if anyone already got it fixed by them. I'm taking mine in next week.


Sigh-on-Rice 04-29-2015 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fantah (Post 2230861)
No point having them take your car for over an hour haha... Just get marine grease ($5) and grease the fork location, just make sure to clean it first. Takes less than 5 mins of work.

Yup. I've done it like 10 times since I saw this post in December. The noise keeps coming back in a few weeks. :(

Cooperdh 05-09-2015 04:58 PM

warranty
 
It will most likely keep coming back like mine did. If you are still under warranty, ask them to do a courtesy service. They had to pull out the tranny to get to the fork I was talking about it my recent post. They wanted to initially charge me over $1200 because of the labor. There must have been other issues reported because Toyota USA covered the charge.

Sigh-on-Rice 05-26-2015 07:19 PM

Fantah,
How did you lube yours? Maybe I'm lubing incorrectly. The longest it lasted is 3 weeks. It usually comes back in a week. I wipe the old lube with a cloth. Then apply a thin layer to marine grease with fingers rubbing around the silver metal part in that picture with red circle. Is that how you did it?

weedtank 05-26-2015 07:33 PM

Having the squeaking issue too and it sounds like it's coming from inside the cabin

fantah 05-27-2015 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weedtank (Post 2263249)
Having the squeaking issue too and it sounds like it's coming from inside the cabin



Yes it will sound like that. lube up the fork in the picture and press the clutch like 50 times and it'll get better.... eventually hahaha.

weedtank 05-28-2015 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fantah (Post 2264625)
Yes it will sound like that. lube up the fork in the picture and press the clutch like 50 times and it'll get better.... eventually hahaha.

Can't wait to try it. Will Autozone or Pepboys have the marine grease?

Sigh-on-Rice 05-28-2015 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by weedtank (Post 2265344)
Can't wait to try it. Will Autozone or Pepboys have the marine grease?

I would think so. I bought mine at Walmart. Let us know if the noise goes away for longer than a month. I want to know how you applied yours and do the same to mine. So far, mine lasts only for 1 to 3 weeks.

fantah 05-29-2015 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weedtank (Post 2265344)
Can't wait to try it. Will Autozone or Pepboys have the marine grease?



Yeah any auto store. Its like $5.

Holyshiba 08-05-2015 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooperdh (Post 2243068)
It will most likely keep coming back like mine did. If you are still under warranty, ask them to do a courtesy service. They had to pull out the tranny to get to the fork I was talking about it my recent post. They wanted to initially charge me over $1200 because of the labor. There must have been other issues reported because Toyota USA covered the charge.


So what actual work did servco do to fix the problem? They only lubed the clutch fork? Has your squeak come back at all? Did they completely rule out the throw out bearing? None of the work was covered under warranty but Toyota USA covered the work done? Thanks in advance. I just got the squeak today...

Holyshiba 08-05-2015 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fantah (Post 2267585)
Yeah any auto store. Its like $5.

do you still regularly lube the clutch fork or was it just a one time and done sort of thing? Thanks in advance.

Sigh-on-Rice 08-05-2015 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holyshiba (Post 2346581)
So what actual work did servco do to fix the problem? They only lubed the clutch fork? Has your squeak come back at all? Did they completely rule out the throw out bearing? None of the work was covered under warranty but Toyota USA covered the work done? Thanks in advance. I just got the squeak today...

He's not from Hawaii.
I saw your posts on another thread too.
I'll let you know next week Monday who in Servco you should talk to about this problem. If you talk to the wrong person, they will charge you $600-$700 just for diagnosis (not including fixing cost). If you talk to the right person, they will fix it under warranty. Is your car still under basic warranty?

Holyshiba 08-05-2015 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice (Post 2347360)
He's not from Hawaii.
I saw your posts on another thread too.
I'll let you know next week Monday who in Servco you should talk to about this problem. If you talk to the wrong person, they will charge you $600-$700 just for diagnosis (not including fixing cost). If you talk to the right person, they will fix it under warranty. Is your car still under basic warranty?

Yes, car is almost 2 years with almost 17k miles. Thank you! :thanks: I could feel it today when I was driving home today, kinda a stiff push back when fully depressing the clutch.

Sigh-on-Rice 08-05-2015 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holyshiba (Post 2347762)
Yes, car is almost 2 years with almost 17k miles. Thank you! :thanks: I could feel it today when I was driving home today, kinda a stiff push back when fully depressing the clutch.

I know exactly what you're talking about. You can feel it on your foot. When I talked to them, it sounded like this issue is covered under the basic warranty and not the powertrain warranty. Toyota on the mainland seems to be covering it under the powertrain warranty. Not sure if Servco is ok to make their own rules, but I didn't go any further since mine is covered under warranty.

Holyshiba 08-05-2015 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice (Post 2347778)
I know exactly what you're talking about. You can feel it on your foot. When I talked to them, it sounded like this issue is covered under the basic warranty and not the powertrain warranty. Toyota on the mainland seems to be covering it under the powertrain warranty. Not sure if Servco is ok to make their own rules, but I didn't go any further since mine is covered under warranty.

Is this still your DD?

Sigh-on-Rice 08-05-2015 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holyshiba (Post 2347781)
Is this still your DD?

Yes, still my DD.

Cooperdh 08-06-2015 09:46 PM

If you are having the squeaking issues and it continues to come back, I would go to Toyota and ask to speak to the service manager directly. Tell him you have spoken to others about this issue and the only fix was to take apart the tranny and lube the fork or whatever part it is they call it. It was not the bearing in case they ask. After the service guy was done with it, he admitted that it was bone dry and would have caused major problems had they not performed this service. Mine wasn't just squeaky though, there seemed be a sort of crunchy feel to the clutch when depressed. Ask them to submit a request to Toyota to cover the service. Good luck. BTW, the clutch sill runs like a champ.

bhbnuckle 06-29-2016 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fantah (Post 2065634)
Its exposed. No tools needed. Just wipe away the old gunk with a towel and smudge on the new lube. 30 secs. The logest part of this process is going to the store and buying haha. Ill include pictures in next post

where did u lub?
Should I spray all the way down to inside of dust boost?

fantah 07-01-2016 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhbnuckle (Post 2692536)
where did u lub?
Should I spray all the way down to inside of dust boost?

I just rub the exposed metal, then step on the clutch about 50 times. It gets better the more you do it.

unicron 11-07-2018 01:22 PM

I have the same issue starting last year at about 70000 km. It feels crunchy as if clutch (linkage, pushrod, return springs etc ) is binding. I tried applying grease to the slave cylinder pushrod where it contacts the release fork, tried flushing the hydraulic fluid. These seemed to improve it until it came back. I replaced the hydraulic fluid again, and could objectively say it had no effect. I then tried lubing all the moving linkage components inside the car ( very complicated linkage setup) where the sound seemed to come from in my case. The problem, if your getting crunchy clutch is probably the pushrod going into the clutch master cylinder is dry. You will need to find a compatible lube that won’t break down the seals and cause further problems


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