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Sabretooth 12-20-2014 09:33 PM

Good coilovers under $1,000???
 
So I just got my 2015 Scion FR-S and I'm thinking about getting some coilovers but my budget is under $1,000 . I was on eBay but don't know how I feel about some weird brands I've never heard of... Even though the pictures look great lol. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks

N1rve 12-20-2014 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabretooth (Post 2063693)
So I just got my 2015 Scion FR-S and I'm thinking about getting some coilovers but my budget is under $1,000 . I was on eBay but don't know how I feel about some weird brands I've never heard of... Even though the pictures look great lol. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks


http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/susp...ndex-1-3a.html

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/mm...R_S-SUSPENSION

Harmsy 12-20-2014 09:43 PM

Bc racing sell for their br model for $995 And seem to have good reviews. I wouldn't go much cheaper than these

airjonny 12-20-2014 09:50 PM

http://www.redline360.com/bilstein-b...-brz-47-228337

Pat 12-20-2014 09:53 PM

Don't bother. The stock suspension is very good. Putting on sub-$1k coilovers will likely make it ride and handle worse. If you're getting coilovers spend at least $1,500. Maybe even $1,800 minimum.
If your goal is to lower it an inch or so just get springs.

funwheeldrive 12-20-2014 09:54 PM

Why are you trying to cheap out on a brand new car? I could see being frugal on parts that aren't super important like exhaust, but why not save up the extra money for a quality suspension?

Sabretooth 12-20-2014 09:56 PM

The bc racing coilovers look great ! I'm sure the bc coilovers are better than the stock suspension ... And 995$ sounds perfect ! Thanks a lot guys !!

Tcoat 12-20-2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabretooth (Post 2063715)
The bc racing coilovers look great ! I'm sure the bc coilovers are better than the stock suspension ... And 995$ sounds perfect ! Thanks a lot guys !!

What makes you think they are better than stock? Because they look good in a picture?
I have no clue if they are good or bad but do recommend more research before going for something just because it hits your budget point.

Lunatic 12-20-2014 11:46 PM

I have a friend that put Megan Racing street coil overs on his car. He loves them and does a lot of track days with it also.

HATED1 12-21-2014 12:00 AM

I have BC BR coilovers for about 40,000 miles so far. I like them. Goes as low as I want them too with a decent ride.

Sabretooth 12-21-2014 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HATED1 (Post 2063804)
I have BC BR coilovers for about 40,000 miles so far. I like them. Goes as low as I want them too with a decent ride.

Thank you for this !!!

Brndn704 12-21-2014 01:12 AM

It's all in according to how you plan to drive the car. Are you going for function and plan to track the car, or are you just going for the looks and plan on dumping it as low as possible?

Sabretooth 12-21-2014 01:47 AM

I want to take it to the track sometime but not all the time . And I wanna be a little low but not like hella slammed type either . I want to use the car , not give up everything that the car has to offer just to be hella slammed or whatever

Jake360 12-21-2014 05:54 AM

ride around stock for a while and save up a few more bucks

BlaineWasHere 12-21-2014 02:04 PM

Can afford $25K for a new car, but can't afford $2K for suspension?? This place baffles me.

Buy quality and cry once, buy cheap and cry many times.

D_Thissen 12-21-2014 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere (Post 2064132)
Buy quality and cry once, buy cheap and cry many times.


Been there, done that, and not just with car parts :(

Michael 12-21-2014 02:39 PM

If you're just going to daily your ride, BCRacing will be just fine. Otherwise, save up for better quality. I have the BCRacing with 10k springs and haven't experienced any issues. Make sure you set the preload correctly and get an alignment afterwards. Also, get LCAs/ camber bolts so you can adjust those during the alignment.

Koa 12-21-2014 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabretooth (Post 2063841)
I want to take it to the track sometime but not all the time . And I wanna be a little low but not like hella slammed type either . I want to use the car , not give up everything that the car has to offer just to be hella slammed or whatever

don't get 1k coils then

BlaineWasHere 12-21-2014 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by D_Thissen (Post 2064136)
Been there, done that, and not just with car parts :(


lol me too. I'm speaking from experience.

illest86 12-21-2014 03:22 PM

Good thread – Thanks for the recommendations guys.

itsbirdy 12-21-2014 03:30 PM

Definitely good bang for your buck would be BCs.
But your best bet would be to wait for boxing day sales.

STV3 12-21-2014 04:33 PM

BC's are one of the better quality cheap coilovers if all you are concerned about is lowering your car. However, they will not out perform a good spring and strut combo or even the stock suspension. They aren't balanced specifically for the FRS/BRZ or any car for that matter.

Just because you will have a stiffer ride does not mean your car will over all handle better.

Turbowned 12-21-2014 04:43 PM

If you just want low for now, buy a set of Eibach Sportline springs and save money for better coilovers later. You'll get a 1.5" drop which ought to hold you over until you can afford something decent. That's what I'm doing anyway. Taking a bit longer as I want Öhlins Road and Track...

Tcoat 12-21-2014 04:54 PM

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fatoni 12-21-2014 05:25 PM

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Tcoat 12-21-2014 06:22 PM

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Those circles shouldn't overlap in the middle

Ya It was just the clearest one I could find!
Count the center overlap as "not bloody likely"

HATED1 12-21-2014 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabretooth (Post 2063841)
I want to take it to the track sometime but not all the time . And I wanna be a little low but not like hella slammed type either . I want to use the car , not give up everything that the car has to offer just to be hella slammed or whatever

That's exactly how I use my car.

Canehda 12-21-2014 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere (Post 2064132)
Can afford $25K for a new car, but can't afford $2K for suspension?? This place baffles me.

Buy quality and cry once, buy cheap and cry many times.

I saved up for this car for a while and after dropping 35k cash I'm not exactly keen to spend 2-3k for wheels, 2k for suspension, 7k on a turbo kit and another 2k on exhaust like what people on the forum say Im supposed to spend.
Sorry for seeming hostile but you are a member of a car forum dedicated to an ENTRY LEVEL sports car so really if this baffles you then I would take a step back and look at the nature of the car you purchased.
I totally agree that it is best to save up and buy the best quality you can and be happy with what you have in the mean time but you and I both know patience advice is easier given than received. :cheers:

BlaineWasHere 12-21-2014 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Canehda (Post 2064369)
I saved up for this car for a while and after dropping 35k cash I'm not exactly keen to spend 2-3k for wheels, 2k for suspension, 7k on a turbo kit and another 2k on exhaust like what people on the forum say Im supposed to spend.
Sorry for seeming hostile but you are a member of a car forum dedicated to an ENTRY LEVEL sports car so really if this baffles you then I would take a step back and look at the nature of the car you purchased.
I totally agree that it is best to save up and buy the best quality you can and be happy with what you have in the mean time but you and I both know patience advice is easier given than received. :cheers:

My advice still stands.

It is an entry level sports car, but that doesn't mean you should put parts on your car with far less engineering and R&D than said entry level sports car. The goal of modding your car should be to make it better, why spend money if it doesn't make the car better or maybe even makes it worse????

And if you lived in a better country than Canada you would have had $10K left over for mods after you bought the car! :bonk::D:D:D:D

mav1178 12-21-2014 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabretooth (Post 2063715)
The bc racing coilovers look great ! I'm sure the bc coilovers are better than the stock suspension ... And 995$ sounds perfect ! Thanks a lot guys !!

Judging by the fact that a suggestion for BC Racing is better than stock in your opinion, feel free and spend your $1k to get BC Racing coilovers.

Just keep in mind several things:
1) coilovers, like shocks, should be rebuilt every 2-3 years (depending on mileage and road conditions), much like how shocks of any kind should be replaced... but...
2) there are two types of coilover makers: the ones that sell you a generic replacement shock, and those that actually take your existing shock body to revalve/rebuild.
3) coilovers costs more to maintain than spring/shock combo. If $1k is your budget limit, I would highly suggest you to look elsewhere as they are not at all a "budget" modification.

But hey, go cheap all you want.

-alex

Canehda 12-21-2014 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere (Post 2064374)
My advice still stands.

It is an entry level sports car, but that doesn't mean you should put parts on your car with far less engineering and R&D than said entry level sports car. The goal of modding your car should be to make it better, why spend money if it doesn't make the car better or maybe even makes it worse????

And if you lived in a better country than Canada you would have had $10K left over for mods after you bought the car! :bonk::D:D:D:D

No your advice is fine and I totally support it. But the way that I look at it, is that car parts are like fast food. Fast food is not good for you and it kills the environment, plus afterwards you feel like s**t. But a junior chicken for $2 is so god damn convenient and cheap that once in a while you give in, and that is why fast food companies make an absolute fortune and the local quality restaurants struggle to survive! Its the western mindset!

BlaineWasHere 12-21-2014 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Canehda (Post 2064385)
No your advice is fine and I totally support it. But the way that I look at it, is that car parts are like fast food. Fast food is not good for you and it kills the environment, plus afterwards you feel like s**t. But a junior chicken for $2 is so god damn convenient and cheap that once in a while you give in, and that is why fast food companies make an absolute fortune and the local quality restaurants struggle to survive! Its the western mindset!


and that's what makes us Muricans very fat. lol.

Jake360 12-21-2014 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Canehda (Post 2064369)
ENTRY LEVEL sports car

i think of it more as a starting platform

Tcoat 12-21-2014 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere (Post 2064374)
And if you lived in a better country than Canada you would have had $10K left over for mods after you bought the car! :bonk::D:D:D:D

A better place?????
Actually if bought in another place the money "left over" would be exactly the same.
Can't compare prices from country to country as there are many economic factors in play.
Just because something cost $1 in the U.S. does not mean it cost a $1 everywhere else but because we pay more does not mean it cost more too us.
Shit, that doesn't even make sense to me now!
Sort of like if I make $2 an hour and pay $1 for something I spent 50% of my income but that would be exactly the same as if I make $4 and spent $2. To the guys with the $2 income the $4 seems expensive.
And this is why I am not an economics professor!

TylerLieberman 12-21-2014 09:56 PM

I laugh every time I see somebody recommend BC coils and say they're "good quality".

I can't go onto a single forum without somebody's BC coils having issues and going to shit within a few months of ownership.

hmong337 12-21-2014 10:20 PM

ST coilovers are the best bang for dollar/performance is what the reviews say. I'd look into those.

robr 12-21-2014 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hmong337 (Post 2064541)
ST coilovers are the best bang for dollar/performance is what the reviews say. I'd look into those.

I was reading this whole thread wondering why those were never brought up. Figured I missed a thread where those were deemed utter crap. Good to know I'm not the only one, if that's the case.

JOSEC 12-22-2014 12:14 AM

I don't think there are "good" coilovers for 1K. They do have there place, and that is to get low for cheap. I'm speaking from first hand experience. I bought BC's about 6 months ago and have driven for about 6000 miles. They do not out perform the stock suspension in any way. The BC's are just too harsh (8K rates) for Houston roads and the dampers are just sub par on quality. Even on full soft on all 4 corners, I can't get comfortable with them. And comfort is key for me whether daily driving or out on the autocross. By comfort I mean the car doesn't feel as planted as on the stock suspension. On slight-medium bends and with mild speed (30-45mph) the car loses grip on minor road irregularities. I think it's a combination of 8K rate making the car hop over bumps and the inferior damper design not allowing the tire to contact the ground over the bump fast enough. Honestly, I wish I haven't bought them. Will be saving up for a proper coilovers.

Marco_86 12-22-2014 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabretooth (Post 2063715)
I'm sure the bc coilovers are better than the stock suspension

What makes you so sure? Just because they fit your price range?

Pickleahoy 12-22-2014 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 2064523)
I laugh every time I see somebody recommend BC coils and say they're "good quality".

I can't go onto a single forum without somebody's BC coils having issues and going to shit within a few months of ownership.

People bitching on forums will always outdo people talking positively, it is the nature of the internet. My personal experience with having a BC set on the miata for 20,000+ miles of mixed usage would disagree with your claim based on what I assume is experience based on reading forum posts?


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