Red triangle on rear, fog light?
 

I've heard the red triangle is a rear fog light for European cars. It's not a brake light for sure, but I don't have fog lights to test!

Anyone have the fog lights and know if it would work on our US cars too? I sure hope it's not just a plastic placeholder!

I dont think its a fog light but in japan it is a standard feature that all cars must have.

Yes, that rear triangle thing is rear fog light.

You gotta buy the kit UK or JP, cuz I highly doubt US gonna get it

Yeah, the US models don't have a light inside so it's just an empty reflector. I still think it looks cool though. I would have it flash like a Formula 1 car in the rain/fog. LOL

I am thinking about modding it to do this for kicks at some point in the future. With the ability to turn it off for normal driving, of course.

It is a TUV requirement in Germany and other European nations to have red static fog-lamp in the center. This is disabled in the USA and Japan as this is actually not legal to have in the USA, or Japan to have such brightly lit rear lamp under Japan Ministry of Transportation, or the Department of Transportation in the USA.
The FT86 Team designers left it in the external design to mimic the racy feel of F1... :D I sort of like it and hate it at the same time... Love the passion, but sort of non-functionally gimmicky at the same time. Hehe!

I suppose it can be modified to use smaller bulbs to make a 4th brake light...

I was thinking, since I have a few occasions where my personal cars become Safety Car or Pace Car at local track events, to install a high intensity strobe flasher for track use. :D
Either that, it use it as a cover for a tow-hitch for when eventually, I'd have to tow something small to ractracks...like cones and supplies? LOL
I wish Five Axis would gimme the mini-soapbox FRS for me to convert into a trailer!! Hahah!

Hmmm, didn't realize it was illegal in the US, thanks for that tidbit. I was thinking of "activating" it if I ever added the fog lights since the punchout for the light is there in the reflector. Have to research it further...

You could tap into the wiper stem 12v wire to trigger it when you enable that. :w00t:

I mostly wanted it for track use. Similar to the "safety car" idea of Moto-P's.

The reflector has the punch-out for a bulb and wiring. For the purpose you want, I don't see any reason why you couldn't do it.

I question that statement. The rear fog is an option on all MINIs, and I see plenty of tools driving Audis and Volvos with them on all the time.

I'm waiting for one of our European friends to get one so we can figure out how it's activated. I want to retro-fit mine. :)

Well according to what I could find through a quick search, they aren't illegal, just not required. Here's a Wikipedia reference, but there were others.

Great idea using it for a strobe placement. I use whelen kits and their LED system. This would be perfect. Also, did you notice int he trunk the spare tire kit comes with a tow hook to screw in the front or rear bumper!? I love this car and thought behind it. 11 years living in Japan and I never saw ingenuity like this.

I would like to hook it up to brake light system- would certainly get the attention of someone behind you, especially low riders?:happyanim:

No its not illegal in US. My Mercedes has it standard. So does most BMW and Audi sold here.

370Z's have a fully working fog light.

Just a thought but does anyone else think that the rear fog light itself is legal but the very low height of it is what causes it to be illegal. We all know the US has random laws about how high headlights can be and how high the third brake light can be.

I didn't say it was illegal. I just said the US models of the FR-S and BRZ don't have the light built in. Maybe you meant to quote somebody else?

Yea, it may be illegal because of the placement, but I see plenty of cars now with rear fog lights, so I don't think they are illegal.

It's technically illegal to have the rear fog light (or really ANY fog lights) on during fair weather conditions. I doubt you'll find a cop who will ticket you for it, though.The lights are aimed in such a way that they can be distracting to drivers, especially rear fog lights. Rear fogs are aimed directly at driver eye-level so as to increase visibility in foggy conditions (as you would expect, given their name).

Wiring up a light that was intended to be used as a rear fog light as a brake light is a super d-bag thing to do. I see cars all the time with the rear fogs wired up as brake lights and they are bright, obnoxious, and make you look like a tool driving around. But hey, do whatever you want to your cars :)

Mini Cooper has an option for them in the US

Thanks. I figured that out later and posted this. If I get fogs, I'm going to hook it up. Waiting to see how much the OEM ones are going to be.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9961

for those that want to do something with this

Are you talking about the OEM front fogs in your post?

just as an fyi, on F1 cars the light on the back doesn't actually flash, its a static light thats constantly on. The reason behind why you see it flash on TV/videos of F1 cars is due to the fact of how LED's work and that they have a 'refresh' rate like a tv/monitor. LED lights are technically flashing so fast that it looks like a constant light where in reality they are actually blinking. Most video cameras will capture footage which is usually slower frames per second than the refresh rate so it simulates the lights flickering/flashing. Same reason why people think the Bugatti Veyron tail lights flashed in videos online.

If you record video of LED lights (for example an Audi LED DRL or Lexus LED's or Merc LED DRL's and you move the camera around a bit, during playback the lights will look like they are flashing.

Yes, sorry I wasn't very clear on that was I?

They are going to be $459

I'm kind of hoping someone comes out with a kit (hint, hint) so we can convert to a fog light or brake light. Seems silly to waste such an opportunity with it.

My car has fog lights and the rear red triangle lights up nicely when I turn it on.

I'm in Beirut , Lebanon so it might be Middle Eastern? or European version here.

rear triangle light
 

do you know where to order the kit from ?

PM Carson Toyota and see if they can order it from Japan. If not, there have been DIY written bout it.

Hey everyone. I stumbled across this thread. I actually offer this kit for your frs/brz/ft86. Very simple to install and we are actually offering a promo right now.

F n' A Rear Fog Kit <click this and it'll bring you to the vendor section where we are selling.

There's a vendor on here actually selling a Rear Fog Light/ 3rd Brake light kit. He has 3 different kits actually. I'm looking at getting it the very near future.

Here's the link man
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24188

does that trick work on our brake lights since they are also LED's?

Here's the kit that we offer with the F1 brake light<Click Link

I have Kit 2 installed. Really is easy to do and looks great!

I'm def doing this eventually. I just can't decide if I want the fog only look or the brake light. Might just do the fog only look

W.e. u want man, we got it. lol. Shoot us a pm if and when your ready to buy.

I think most people in this thread are talking about wiring it up as a fog. ;)

Nathan