Element Tuning Raven Black FRS Track Build (Race Proven)
 

And so a new chapter begins for Element Tuning as we take on the FRS and BRZ. We aren't known for building slow cars and well the FRS/BRZ is a slow car but most of us know that going in. What it has is an exceptional chassis and great driving dynamics.

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6/13/2012 (New wheels tested)

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These wheels are Rota T2R 18x9.5 ET38 (5mm spacer required on front) with Goodyear GT something in a 225/45-18. They are taller in diameter because the Legacy GT they came from has really large wheel arches and it fills them in better. Since this car isn't lowered yet these do the same thing here. For the front to fit a 5mm spacer was needed on the front.

Loving how this looks!


As a racer I'm really looking forward to taking this car to a whole new level of grip and HP. We'll be relying again on BC Racing to custom valve our new suspension so we can take this car to the highest level of racing just like our STi.

On the HP front we'll be developing the Hydra EMS stand-alone engine management system along with an Element Tuning Pro Comp engine build. We need to tear this thing down and start working with manufacturers as soon as possible so we can build the motor to handle the turbo system we have in store.

I hope everyone is as excited as we are to build a sick race car out of this chassis!

For now some 18x8.5 SSRs with 225/40-18 Toyos we had laying around the shop. Definitely a conservative fit and I see plenty more room in there to go wider.http://elementtuning.com/store/wp-co...ningFRSweb.jpg

6/10/12: Track tested, track proven:

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Dual view video during the Whelen USTT Championship at NJ Motosports Thunderbolt:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxAkNUQ24Pk"]Element Tuning FRS/BRZ Whelen USTT 2012 NJ - YouTube[/ame]


Thanks,
Phil Grabow

I am really excited to hear about what you guys plan on doing on the tuning front. Right now that seems like the most pressing obstacle towards unlocking the full potential of this car...

By the way, this R&D thread might interest you:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5520

Glad to see you guys onboard :)


Justin

holy wheel gap batman! I am not sure if it is the color of the car/rims or the angle but wow it looks big on this one.

oh snap... Element is now involved.

love seeing you and your car around in the world one days... so much fun. And the time attacks :)

So far my favorite looking frs. Also glad to hear what your intentions are. I will definitely follow your progress.

what offset are those wheels? those are the exact wheel and tire specs I chose.

Nice pic... The frs looks instantly better with a nice set of rims... Cant wait to see what u guys have in store for the frs... Thanks!!!

When you talk about your turbo setup, what HP figures would you have in mind.

very interested in your products!!!! welcome!:party0030:

+1 on this fo sho

GT52 bolt-on kit go!

I think it's just because they are pushed out farther. Wheel gap is actually less than OEM since the sidewall is a little taller on this tire.

I know I didn't need another picture of a stock FRS/BRZ :lol:

I have a set of 18x9.5 ET38 Rota T2Rs and a set of DPT 18x10 ET35 I'll be test fitting. I don't have time this week as I need to prep the STi for the Viper Cup round this weekend in NJ.

These are some old track wheels and most of the original decals are gone. I'm pretty sure they are 46-48 offset, 18x8, 5x100.

Thanks,
Phil Grabow

Yes engine management is going to be the most critical part of moving this car into stardom. It's time to start cracking on this whip on this and investigating the ECU connectors etc. I just got the car and I don't even know where the ECM is. I need to find this today with what little spare time I have. If you guys know where it is let me know and we'll have a Hydra EMS that much faster ;)

You might like this (look towards the bottom of the thread page):

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...?t=7413&page=2

Thank you I got it out and checked the connectors and we have them.

I haven't been able to get the ECM IO diagram from the Subaru Technical website. If anyone can get the FRS or BRZ ECM IO diagram that would be a huge help as that's what is currently holding me back from taking the next step.

I think someone posted that info in this thread:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7078

Yeah I've looked through that post before and while it's very informative it's not exactly what we need. An ECM IO diagram will give you a specific ECU connector/pin and then relate that to a sensor etc.

So it would say something like: Connector B134 pin 37 = MAF signal (.2-5 volts).

It will eventually be available but I'm in a hurry as you could imagine...I need more power now! :lol:

basically you need the FSM with the wire diagram sheet. It is for sale through Subaru right now from what i understand.

I just tried again and it still not up on Subaru's Technical Website. The vehicle is recognized but there are no options to purchase any of the information. I checked with my dealer and they don't even have the parts data available.

If anyone here works for Toyota/Scion or Subaru and does have access to the hard copies or software contact me please and I will pay you to get me the info.

Raced the FRS today in the Whelen US TT Championship. Turned a 1:40.3 running NJ Thunderbolt and I'm pretty sure I will dip it into the 1:30s tomorrow. This car is seriously legit on track!

Sounds like a pretty good result :D

Absolutely beat the snot out of the FRS racing two days at New Jersey Motorsports for the Whelen US GT and TT Championship. I can't wait to show you guys the onboard video as I was up the tailpipes of race tired Z06s and other heavily modified track cars (I was also on race tires). Pictures and videos to come.

I had one major issue with the steering when braking heavy. It was as if the power steering wouldn't allow braking and turning under extremes (trail braking under race conditions on race tires).

When life serves you lemons, make lemonade! Our Unlimited Time Attack STi had problems so instead of calling it quits it was time to put the FRS to the ultimate test!

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I first went out on the OEM wheels and tires and I just wasn't patient enough to deal with those on a race track. Our STi runs a set of Rota DPT 18x10 ET35 from Wheel Dude which happens to have a dual bolt patter. With a 5mm front spacer they fit...sort of :lol:

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Having to run in the same class with race prepped Z06s, Porsche Turbos, and Vipers I didn't win anything but respect!

As soon as I have time to get the videos together I'll talk about how remarkable the car's performance was this weekend.

Wnder why the steering would go out. Thought it was electric, which my dumb head thinks should make it immune from heat related shutdown?

Love the pics...NASCAR vibe LoL

I was almost as if it didn't have enough power to overcome the sticky tires while braking and turning. It had the sensation of loosing a power steering pump and it took extreme muscle to turn or easing off the brakes. I'm pretty sure I just changed my technique to get around this but I trail brake a lot in my STi in the tight stuff. Maybe there is still some VSC that basically tells the electric steering to not let this bozo brake and turn at the same time :iono:. I had all that off however.

Dual view video of the Element Tuning FRS taking on the Whelen USTT Championship at NJ Motorsports Thunderbolt.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxAkNUQ24Pk"]Element Tuning FRS/BRZ Whelen USTT 2012 NJ - YouTube[/ame]

Ok someone mentioned a note in the manual about when the power steering overheats it cuts back the assist. This must have been what was happening.

That was awesome Phil! Glad to see you got your car.:thumbsup: Can't wait to see what you make outta that thing! :happy0180:

Chris K

Holy Kaw!

That's some pretty serious company for a stock, sub $30k car on Hoosiers to be living with. Nice driving too.
:clap:

I had a similar power steering issue on my MKV Golf R32 whenever I tracked it with R888s on it. All steering assist would just vanish out of nowhere near the end of sessions. Still had control but yesss...literally required two hands to turn the wheel in those cases. Not fun.

I'm hoping that it isn't an incurable or recurrent problem with the FR-S/BRZ, given that it's supposed to be a track-oriented car and especially given how tempting you've just made it to go and stick some big R comps on.
:burnrubber:

Here's the video on day two when I was pushing harder to break into the 1:39s but the track was just too hot and my tires too wasted. I chase a Ferrari 458 Challenge for about 1 second (LOL) and pass a CTS-V track car on my way to spinning out.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKlWAKGmRC8"]Element Tuning FRS Spin at Whelen USTT 2012 NJ - YouTube[/ame]

Thanks,
Phil Grabow

Like a Boss.

Oh wow in maryland.

why did you go for 18's and not 17's as 17's have more weight advantage?

These are the race wheels and tires from our Unlimited Sti so it was what was sitting in the race trailer :)

Free! Good enough reason =D

It's quite impressive that you can keep up with these guys through the turns. Too bad it's too slow to keep up in the straights. Great driving!

Nice Job , Thanks for sharing !!

I know. They won't know what hit them when we start running suspension and downforce! The DF will have to wait until we have more power though.

And yet another set of wheels. I really like how this looks. My street setup prior was the 18x8.5 SSR (may have said they were 8 but they are 8.5). These were off my Legacy GT and I wanted to fit them so I could hone in better on my final wheel diameter, width and offset.

http://elementtuning.com/store/wp-co...FRST2R1web.jpg

These wheels are Rota T2R 18x9.5 ET38 with Goodyear GT something in a 225/45-18. They are taller in diameter because the LGT has really large wheel arches and it fills them in better. Since this car isn't lowered yet these do the same thing here. For the front to fit a 5mm spacer was needed (there was maybe .5mm clearance without).

Loving how this looks!

Was thinking about Rotas but I want to drive at least a little in the city and don't want them destroyed. Thinking about RPF1's and some Z1 Star Specs.

We run Rota on the race car and while about 2 pound heavier than the Volk Prodrives I used to run they are up to the task. For the price, a good quality wheel but choose ones that have lots of spokes as they will be stronger so think T2R or DPT. Now they are not as strong as the Volks I had, but I have taken some serious 120+ mph curbs and offs while racing and they stayed true. I finally tweaked one when I hit and embankment and flipped. They are of similar strength to Enkie which isn't forged either but both a good options.

I do think if anyone is staying NA then the lightest overall combo you can get that fits your budget will be the right choice. Don't forget to check tire weights also as they vary by a large margin.

Dunlop Star Specs are really good also as I raced with those on our "Street" class WRX.