FS thread cleanup
 

I was wondering if we could lock down our for sale thread? There is so much useless banter and chatter in there it makes it a pain to search through.

Maybe we can add a few rules to posting in the thread, and have a mod oversee it once a week to remove chatter, delete huge post quotes for simple question that should've been asked via PM, etc.

Should be better for buyers and sellers alike.

Or just make a sub section within so cal section that is for sale threads only so post bumps don't clutter it

That's a good idea too. On Rx7club the Regional For Sale threads eventually evolved into Regional For Sale sections.
But, first we have to get them to uncluster the mess that is the Engine/Transmission/Exhaust Section.
It makes it really easy to sell parts when all you have to do is search the local wanted posts for the parts your selling.

I'm with you on this one. We have enough activity in the FS thread that warrants a sub-section. Would be way easier to navigate than the current ghetto FS thread.

Define "bumps", is re-posting an item you listed several weeks ago the same kind of bump you're referring to?
As for deleting the large quotes and posts that should be PM's, I completely agree.

I dont really see this happening. How many "warnings" have you seen in the regular FS section which gets lots more traffic regarding "Post a pic of the product" or "post a pic with a paper and your name on it" etc.

I think the mods are stretched thin, so unless they make one of us a mod for this section only, not much will change.

One irritating thing for me in general is that everyone removes all info/price when an item sells. Sucks because sometimes you wanna know what the going rate for a used part is. Or more photos of something...but you cant see that since everyone deletes all traces of everything haha.

Oh, and Sh*TTing in peoples threads. Can we(usually noobs who have no intention of buying anyway) stop that?
"Selling an item for $INSERT PRICE? Well Guess what?! I can order that from your mom for $100 less!"

I think defining bumps is something that needs to be addressed. On Rx7club you cant bump your forsale threads more than once every 48 hours, but back when we just had a single groupthread, it was only once a week.

easy to follow rules.
1. pm ALL replies.
2. no sell, no post.
3. 1 week bump max.
4. location, price/obo/firm, shipping, pic, description. no testing waters.

@Hachiroku

:evil:Let me be the FS thread nazi

I'm just going to tag the SoCal forum Mods in case they didn't see this thread. That for sale thread is just ridiculos. @WingsofWar @ichitaka05 @Guff @Dave-ROR @MannyO @M-17
I would do it as well. I'm shocked they don't have regional members as moderators for each reigon & volunteers for each section.

Thanks for the mention. I'll talk w other mods to see about this.

Best bet would be a SoCal For sale sub-section with the same rules as the normal for sale section.
Or, just make a stickey on the first post with some rules and apoint a mod to keep the thread clean.

A Southern California for sale sub-forum would be great

We're leaning towards having sticky FS thread w regional mod.

If you or if you have some member in mind LMK.

BUT don't forget, we're still discussing about it, so we don't have anything set in stone. If you can think any better idea, keep posting w mentioning me (cuz we have 1000 other threads monitoring)

Thanks

is there a reason against the sub section for separate threads?

Hm... If we do, there gonna be more & more regional section sub WTS/WTB threads & feels pointless to have general WTS/WTB threads... but that's just me. Other mods/admin might feel different.


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Regional for sale should be limited to local pick up only maybe.

Eventually the sticky thread will be overrun with sales and it will be time consuming to go through and look for things. Bumping a quote from a sticky just creates so much clutter whereas separate threads can easily be sorted.

It's better to setup the forum for the future because it is only going to continue to grow each month.

Or make a rule that, there's no reply & sales only posts. If you have any question, you PM the seller.

That's just my 2 cents

That's an interesting idea

That just goes back to my point about the large scale... no one wants to go through 10 pages of posts to find something when they could easily just see a thread title.

Then mind as well just keep all the sells in general WTS/WTB thread. What's the point of having multiple WTS/WTS thread?

Not trying to be mean, but just trying to see the justification.


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It's just a lot easier to scroll through a list of titles in a sub section or search the sub section for a specific item instead of reading through pages of posts in a thread.
Some people like to search local first instead of hitting up the general/everywhere sale section as well and this makes its less tedious.

There's a decent amount of chatter/"still available"/sold posting in my regional FS thread that makes it a pain to look through. The useless chatter would still happen but it would be confined within a thread and not much of an issue because most FS don't usually go over 2 pages and if an item is sold its usually updated in the first post instead of adding yet another post to many pages.

Check out the regional sales sections on NASIOC. It's a better organizational method.

Thanks for the detail.

I see your point, but that's why I'm suggesting a regional mod to keep those chat out by deleting em.

I didn't know NASIOC had a regional sales. That place is crazy, when I had Impreza, I try avoid going there lol


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Regional population, like Andrew said..NASIOC's So Cal section is insane for sales, the first 3 pages are almost all the same day. Eventually if this isn't created the general thread will become the same way, this just simplifies things for local people. I know for a fact it is easier to get a locals attention on the general for sale section at this moment because of the way it is organized. So if that was replicated into the regional part it would just make things easier if that makes sense.

A regional mod & a stickey will work for a while, but eventually the thread will get way too big, no matter the moderation. In the long term, a local for sale section is a better idea. I think for right now, the quickest and most reasonable solution would be to assign a regional mod to clean up the sticky.

The reason for a local for sale section is the exact same reason why you go to the store to buy something rather than shop on amazon; sometimes you need something fast, sometimes you want it in your hands before you commit to the purchase. Personally, I try to make the vast majority of my purchases regionally. Supporting the local economy, and if I get ripped off, it's easier to put my foot in someones ass if they're local. Another benefit is regional sales allow people to meet, and it builds the community even further.

I'm speaking from experience, I've been a member of Rx-7club.com since the 90's (before the forum crash that erased everything). I watched the local NW region for sale thread turn into a for sale section that eventually was implimented accross the entire forum.
The site has it's few official moderators, and every other forum is governed by the volunteer addicts and junkies who cant get enough wankel in their veigns, and it works quite well over there.

Each region has a simple forsale sub section that is moderated; members can close (but not delete) their own threads once items are sold. Take a look: http://www.rx7club.com/regional-foru...ming-events-7/
Again I volunteer to be a mod, but I can't dedicate more than 2-3 hours a week, as I also have a fulltime job at the VA, voulnteer for IAVA & I'm the Chair for the veterans alumni committee at UCI.

Thanks, I remember 90's rx7club.com (I used to have an account there).

This comment isn't pointing specifically at you. This is pointing at everyone.

Anyways, you've pointed two things that I was pointing out.
1. As for now, having regional mod & sticky should be efficient enough. When it grows more, we can think about sub section.
2. I've asked to see if there's someone volunteer to be regional mod, but no one but you have spoken up.

& here comes the MAIN concern for me; You guys claim here FS is busy... but is there ANYONE here willing to spent cleaning up, closing, ban the spammer & suspending out of hand members? Just an example, I'm getting over 40 reports, mentions, PMs (total & not each) daily for general concern in the forum. I'm spending average of 3~4 hrs reading (I'm a slow reader lol), replying, cleaning, banning & other stuff. Worse days, I'm spending over 6hrs clean the shit up. That's after or between my full time job.
You guys claim FS/TB is decently busy... so expect to spend roughly 1/2~1 hrs a day reading & cleaning up the FS/TB section... so looking at 4.5~7hrs out from your free time doing stuff PLUS if there's some report other than FS/TB stuff, you gotta clean that up too (of course, admin & mods will try to help too). Or were you guys thinking of making mods do that part too? Major thanks to Dave-ROR, general FS/TB section is clean (but still get hate posts get posted in FB group page & it's pretty funny), but going through 30 classified sections isn't easy, yeah we go through vendor classified section too & it's very time consuming than you think.

I'm not against the idea of regional FS/TB sub section, but just for sec see from mod/admin side of view. I'm not getting paid to do this, I've volunteer to be a mod & happy to help you guys out... BUT without reasonable explanation or idea, it doesn't function as everyone thinks, just mods & admin get the short end of the stick and get blame for not doing their job.

I hope, that explain enough to see my point-of-view on this.

@ZionsWrath said he'd do it too.
And, Rx7club's West for sale section is moderated by 2 volunteers (one of which is a good friend of mine) And it serves all of CA, AZ, NV & HI with way more traffic than this SoCal section sees.

for sale sub forum within the socal section. and/or have a socal only moderator(s). I can spend some time as I am on here daily. But spending hours is much different than minutes. But socal only moderation won't take that much time anyways.

Sorry for the late respond. Other crazy stuff was happening in other side of coast.

Anyways, I'll look more into it & see. Give me a bit more time plz

I would like to see some more structure to the post titles and first posts. It takes quite a while on some items to find the price, how used the part is, location of the part, if the seller is willing to ship and other such things. Something as simple as, if you are selling a tire, then tire must be in the title. This would greatly facilitate searching. Perhaps there could be a structured form that a seller could fill in for the title and first post that would help them remember (and perhaps automatically fill in) all of the basic info that is needed to sell most parts. I think this would eliminate some of the needless question and reply posts. Also, a really reliable and easy way to mark the title of a post sold would be greatly appreciated.

Update:

I've pm few to see if they wanna be regional mod, but haven't heard anything.

If this keeps up, can't change anything.

I didn't get a PM

:crying:

LMAO

K, sending you one right now

BUMP

Bump because half or most the posts on the thread are replies that can be pm'd or people selling stuff without a price/pic/location/shipping, or bumps every other day.

& becasue I never heard back about it after the PM.

example of what happens without rules.
1. testing waters volk wheels 18's with tires
2. pics?
3. size?
4. price?
5. location?
6. obo?
7. bump
8. offset?
9. trades?
10. tire size?
11. tire depth?
12. bump
13. still got this?
14. damage?
15. contact info?
16. still got this?
17. yes
18. ill give you 400
19. pm'd
20. bump
21. nice wheels!
22. price dropped
23. deliver?
24. only if they were sbc
25. why you selling?
26. I wish I had the money.

And that's in the last 2 days. LOL
The best solution is a local for sale section.