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hmong337 11-29-2014 02:53 PM

OpenFlash Tablet w/ Turbo. Feedback?
 
The only car I know of that is using OFT with a turbo is SBD.

Anybody else here using OFT with their turbo setup? I would like to get feedback on how the OFT handles turbo, pros/cons, limitations, or what it does well with.

Thanks.

jflogerzi 11-29-2014 03:01 PM

OFT can work just fine. Its bit more of a pain to tune with, but besides flex fuel support, Ecutek and OFT should be just fine. The only other issue is support for reading boost over 5-6PSI as I don't think it supports using larger sensors. This will change in the future. I would just get ecutek and be done with it.

Shiv@Openflash 11-29-2014 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 2038509)
OFT can work just fine. Its bit more of a pain to tune with, but besides flex fuel support, Ecutek and OFT should be just fine. The only other issue is support for reading boost over 5-6PSI as I don't think it supports using larger sensors. This will change in the future. I would just get ecutek and be done with it.

OFT currently supports both 2.5 and 3.0bar aftermarket MAP sensors. We will be releasing out own turbo kit in January. It will come with a 3bar sensor and free maps for both pump gas and e85 (which will require upgraded fuel pump and injectors).

Also, video to be released next week showing some new safety features that have never been offered before to my knowledge.

jflogerzi 11-29-2014 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2038523)
OFT currently supports both 2.5 and 3.0bar aftermarket MAP sensors. We will be releasing out own turbo kit in January. It will come with a 3bar sensor and free maps for both pump gas and e85 (which will require upgraded fuel pump and injectors).

Also, video to be released next week showing some new safety features that have never been offered before to my knowledge.

Interesting. So this not just an upgrade to the sbd kit but a real custom kit done by you guys...

hmong337 11-29-2014 04:55 PM

Thanks for the responses.

I'm looking for a tuning system that I will be able to grow with. My car will inevitably be turbocharged. I've always been on the fence with OFT and its turbo tuning capabilities as not much has been tested. It's great to learn here that there is a 3bar aftermarket sensor that is capable with OFT.

Can anybody speak from their experience with OFT and their turbo setup? How about tuners- self-tuners to pros? Your thoughts on OFT in regards to a turbo setup.

Thanks.

DannyFRS 11-29-2014 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2038523)
OFT currently supports both 2.5 and 3.0bar aftermarket MAP sensors. We will be releasing out own turbo kit in January. It will come with a 3bar sensor and free maps for both pump gas and e85 (which will require upgraded fuel pump and injectors).

Also, video to be released next week showing some new safety features that have never been offered before to my knowledge.


Does that mean smaller pulley support for the Vortech supercharger as well?

AyJay 11-30-2014 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2038523)
OFT currently supports both 2.5 and 3.0bar aftermarket MAP sensors. We will be releasing out own turbo kit in January. It will come with a 3bar sensor and free maps for both pump gas and e85 (which will require upgraded fuel pump and injectors).

Also, video to be released next week showing some new safety features that have never been offered before to my knowledge.

Local NorCal 86 cup participant and OFT owner who's casually shopping FI kits looking for the right combination of price, track day reliability, and plug and play installation. I'll be keeping an eye out this January to see what you come up with. :thumbup:

Shiv@Openflash 11-30-2014 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DannyFRS (Post 2038729)
Does that mean smaller pulley support for the Vortech supercharger as well?

The OFT can certainly support it but I have not created any maps for the high boosted Vortech setup. In my opinion, if you are looking to run more than the standard 8-9psi set-up you may be better off going with a turbo which doesn't suffer from parastic belt drive loss.

DannyFRS 11-30-2014 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2039463)
The OFT can certainly support it but I have not created any maps for the high boosted Vortech setup. In my opinion, if you are looking to run more than the standard 8-9psi set-up you may be better off going with a turbo which doesn't suffer from parastic belt drive loss.

I get your point but I'm only looking for a little more boost maybe the 3.33 or 3.25 pulley. Plus don't want to sell the vortech and have to buy a new set up.
Is tuning for the slightly higher boost pulley something you can do with the e tuning you offer.

Shiv@Openflash 11-30-2014 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DannyFRS (Post 2039473)
I get your point but I'm only looking for a little more boost maybe the 3.33 or 3.25 pulley. Plus don't want to sell the vortech and have to buy a new set up.
Is tuning for the slightly higher boost pulley something you can do with the e tuning you offer.

That shouldn't be a problem at all.

Shiv@Openflash 11-30-2014 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hmong337 (Post 2038603)
Thanks for the responses.

I'm looking for a tuning system that I will be able to grow with. My car will inevitably be turbocharged. I've always been on the fence with OFT and its turbo tuning capabilities as not much has been tested. It's great to learn here that there is a 3bar aftermarket sensor that is capable with OFT.

Can anybody speak from their experience with OFT and their turbo setup? How about tuners- self-tuners to pros? Your thoughts on OFT in regards to a turbo setup.

Thanks.

There are currently around 40-50 people using the OFT with various forms of forced induction. Half of them are using it with the Phantom ESC. And the other half are probably divided equally between Vortech SC and SBD Turbo kit. All of which we provide free maps file to users.

Our OFT350 will be run 10psi out of the box with options for higher boost levels (and power output) on E85. The OFT and Turbo system will have a very high level of integration since the current round of OFT firmware/software updates were specifically designed for boosted applications in mind. We're pretty excited about what is coming. Coincidentally, back in 1999, the first product I ever developed was an engine control system and bolt-on turbo kit for a 2.5L flat-four (in a Subaru RS2.5). It's funny that 15 years later we are doing the same thing but, this time, we are benefitting from very significant advances in technology :)

Cheers,
Shiv

dejxx 12-01-2014 08:33 PM

@Shiv@Openflash ... Brazilian customer here. Im in the process of importing a FullBlown Stg1 kit. They use Ecutek, but i was wondering if my tuner/installer could use the OFT, since i have one, and i like how easy its for the user. Please advice!

Foobar 12-01-2014 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dejxx (Post 2040675)
@Shiv@Openflash ... Brazilian customer here. Im in the process of importing a FullBlown Stg1 kit. They use Ecutek, but i was wondering if my tuner/installer could use the OFT, since i have one, and i like how easy its for the user. Please advice!

That's a question for your tuner. Skill-wise, if he knows how to tune the car with ECUTek, there's no reason he couldn't tune it with RomRaider and you flash it with OFT. It's more of a business decision, if he chooses to tune with something other than ECUTek. ECUTek allows him to lock the file so that only he can change/distribute it.

Toyota John 12-01-2014 09:36 PM

Where can I down load the FI maps for OFT?

Toyota John 12-10-2014 07:16 PM

Anyone? They don't seem to be available on the website.

Foobar 12-10-2014 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Toyota John (Post 2051915)
Anyone? They don't seem to be available on the website.

You have to reach out to them via e-mail to request the tune for your kit, either the SBD, Vortech, or Phantom ESC.

GotBRZ1691 12-11-2014 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2038523)
OFT currently supports both 2.5 and 3.0bar aftermarket MAP sensors. We will be releasing out own turbo kit in January. It will come with a 3bar sensor and free maps for both pump gas and e85 (which will require upgraded fuel pump and injectors).

Also, video to be released next week showing some new safety features that have never been offered before to my knowledge.


Will the kit come with, or have as an option, the fuel pump and injector upgrades?

Should we be expecting some big numbers because of these requirements :)

Edit: with big being relative to stage 2 UEL E85 map...

Shiv@Openflash 12-11-2014 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GotBRZ1691 (Post 2052246)
Will the kit come with, or have as an option, the fuel pump and injector upgrades?

Should we be expecting some big numbers because of these requirements :)

Edit: with big being relative to stage 2 UEL E85 map...

The standard kit will not come with injectors or pump. They are not necessary to support 10psi/280-290whp on pump gas. But for those who want to option to run E85, injectors and pump (and clutch!) will be required :)

GotBRZ1691 12-12-2014 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2053328)
The standard kit will not come with injectors or pump. They are not necessary to support 10psi/280-290whp on pump gas. But for those who want to option to run E85, injectors and pump (and clutch!) will be required :)


Have you posted any teasers or data? like turbo being used :thumbup:

ST-A 12-12-2014 03:28 PM

we are also using OFT with our Kraftwerks SC GT86.
We had to upgrade the map sensor (we used the honda/denso sensor) and also upgraded pump (deatschwerks 65C) and injectors (asnu 650cc)

To make things a little easyer we forced full time open loop / port injection when making boost (thats where the bigger injectors come in) and when cruising we are still on DI and DI + port combo

our map is not yet completed but we are getting there, all i can say is results are allready very promising, my 322bhp Celica GT-4 can't keep up the pace the GT86 now is pushing, it just keeps pulling.

svelid 06-16-2018 02:02 PM

OFT E85 Nitrous
 
OFT really woke my car up on Stage 2 E85. Not much headache involved. I would rather me and my tuner edit my bin files and gently adjust things. On a E85 Nitrous tune. 6 Bottles later. It runs fantastic. I enjoy the technical tuning and what works. Also I don’t pay a license or a fee every time I need something done. I have all the Nitrous Safety cut to keep engine safe(Lamda too lean or rich....AFR,RPM Window Switch,Bottle Pressure Drop PSI cut off, I am looking at my data logs from last night on DataZap. I love the OFT and look forward for new updates. Rule of thumb....Talk to the right ppl who know what they are doing. Learn about tuning and how the science works. Know what your limits are and tune safely. I highly recommend OFT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2038523)
OFT currently supports both 2.5 and 3.0bar aftermarket MAP sensors. We will be releasing out own turbo kit in January. It will come with a 3bar sensor and free maps for both pump gas and e85 (which will require upgraded fuel pump and injectors).

Also, video to be released next week showing some new safety features that have never been offered before to my knowledge.



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