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Wreakin 06-05-2012 07:09 AM

What's the Out-the-door Price for your FR-S, BRZ
 
Not msrp, invoice, etc. but the actual price that shows up in your bank statements.

I'm looking to try to get one with a reasonable price tag. Or if the mark-ups are too high, i might wait til next year.

Smitty_89 06-05-2012 08:02 AM

there is no reason you should buy a FRS with a markup, you should easily be able to get the exact FRS you want within a few months with no markup. They may try to get you with a shitload of accessories though so watch out for that also. As for the overall out the door price, I am also curious because I'm still waiting on my FRS

lordtakuban 06-05-2012 08:04 AM

"Out the door" price will depend on where you live with regard to sales tax. and whether you are transferring a tag or getting a new one. You can get several numbers, but they will all be meaningless to your specific location (Unless it's from the same dealer that you're buying your car from).

You can ask what the purchase price was. The purchase price includes any dealer fees, markup if you're gullable enough to pay that, and any other things before tax, tag and title.

DantKR 06-05-2012 08:38 AM

Best bet is to google tax tag title for your area and then just do a little math and you'll get a general idea. I'm looking at about 26900 otd atm.

phillip 06-05-2012 09:03 AM

I was going to have to pay 31,527 for my BRZ limited (Atlanta, MSRP + 750 doc/"dealer service" fee + ttl), so instead I just dumped 5k more and got a loaded 135i. Couldn't justify paying over MSRP for a car in the first year of its production cycle when I can get a better one for >10k off its original MSRP.

MattR 06-05-2012 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DantKR (Post 241858)
Best bet is to google tax tag title for your area and then just do a little math and you'll get a general idea. I'm looking at about 26900 otd atm.

Sounds about right. Leith (Raleigh, NC) gave me an estimate of 26,400~ for my order after TTT + Fees.

phillip 06-05-2012 09:21 AM

I bet all the people in NC are wishing they lived in SC for once. IIRC they have a max sales tax on cars of around $350.

DantKR 06-05-2012 09:33 AM

Yeah, so fkn nuts. You can buy a 1million dollar car in SC. Max fee? $350... :(

Dave-ROR 06-05-2012 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phillip (Post 241892)
I bet all the people in NC are wishing they lived in SC for once. IIRC they have a max sales tax on cars of around $350.

Well that, the cheaper tax elsewhere, cheaper gas, etc... When I looked at moving to Charlotte I was going to live in "South Charlotte" instead :P

Dave-ROR 06-05-2012 09:36 AM

Oh and as for this thread, I paid $499 over invoice. OTD with taxes, tag, etc was ~$29,750 for a BRZ Limited.

Longhorn248 06-05-2012 09:37 AM

Total OTD on BRZ Premium was $28,222.34. I also opted for extended warranty for an extra $1200 spread out over the finance period. Stupid? Maybe? But I like that the vehicle will be covered bumper to bumper for the entire period of loan repayment.

Edit: This is in San Antonio, Texas btw.

MattR 06-05-2012 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phillip (Post 241892)
I bet all the people in NC are wishing they lived in SC for once. IIRC they have a max sales tax on cars of around $350.

I think it's actually $300 max for SC :bow:

That's pretty awesome. Still, I can't complain too much. NC is only 3% on cars. Tons better than the 6-7% I see elsewhere.

pr086 06-05-2012 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattR (Post 241915)
I think it's actually $300 max for SC :bow:

That's pretty awesome. Still, I can't complain too much. NC is only 3% on cars. Tons better than the 6-7% I see elsewhere.

i'm new to NC and might be buying from leith, 26,400 sounds about right compared to what i was expecting.

so in NC the tax on cars is only 3% even though sales tax is more?? they don't tax the amount covered by your trade in either, thats a pretty good deal!

pr086 06-05-2012 10:05 AM

actually 26,400 might be a bit high for me since my trade will be at LEAST 10k and i'm anticipating paying the 25,000 msrp price.

Oriental Life 06-05-2012 06:46 PM

BRZ AT Limited (29,345 MSRP), with LoJack installation (715.00) and Titanium protection plan (628.00 wheels are covered, dints and scratches are covered).

California tax 8.75%. Financing at 1.8% for 48 mo, with 30% down.

Total OTD, including financing charges: $34,525. I plan to pay off everything before the end of this year, so I'll save about 600 in financing charges, that will bring total OTD for me to ~$33,900

Thats your 'all-inclusive plan'. Well, I skipped extended warranties and paint sealants jobs for now.

You need to undersand that this is a 30K car (plus-minus a few grands, depending on options + tax differences). If you can't stomach this fact - you should not buy it, because its going to be a financial mistake on your part.

HotLeopardMama 06-05-2012 08:19 PM

Cash Price: $26,414
--includes $220 for Whiteout, $95 trunk mat, & $69 bumper applique

Document Preparation Fee: $55

Sales Tax: 7.75% x $26,414 + $55 = $2051.35

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SUB-SUBTOTAL: $28,801

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8year/100,000mi Extended Warranty: $1,600

GAP insurance: $695

Est. Licence/Title/CA Tire : $172 + $100 + $8.75 = $280.75

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SUBTOTAL: $31,096.10

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Trade-in Value: ($750)

Cash Down: ($3,000)

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TOTAL Financed: $27,346.10 @ 1.99%

Buggy51 06-05-2012 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oriental Life (Post 242901)
BRZ AT Limited (29,345 MSRP), with LoJack installation (715.00) and Titanium protection plan (628.00 wheels are covered, dints and scratches are covered).

California tax 8.75%. Financing at 1.8% for 48 mo, with 30% down.

Total OTD, including financing charges: $34,525. I plan to pay off everything before the end of this year, so I'll save about 600 in financing charges, that will bring total OTD for me to ~$33,900

Thats your 'all-inclusive plan'. Well, I skipped extended warranties and paint sealants jobs for now.

You need to undersand that this is a 30K car (plus-minus a few grands, depending on options + tax differences). If you can't stomach this fact - you should not buy it, because its going to be a financial mistake on your part.

Wow, what company did you go with to get that interest rate? o_O

Indestruct 06-05-2012 09:42 PM

I just looked over my sales Contract:

Limited SWP MT Brz: $28,522 (Wheel Locks, Auto Dim, and delivery)
7/70,000 Gold Warranty: $1,159
Sales tax: $2,500
License and Fees: $293
Doc Prep Fee: $55
Finance @2.94% with (14k down): $1,441

Total OTD: 33,972

I know ouch... I got upsold on the stupid warranty, never buy the warranty... but I was in the moment and I'm worried about the first year model glitches.

HotLeopardMama 06-05-2012 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indestruct (Post 243182)
I just looked over my sales Contract:

Limited SWP MT Brz: $28,522 (Wheel Locks, Auto Dim, and delivery)
7/70,000 Gold Warranty: $1,159
Sales tax: $2,500
License and Fees: $293
Doc Prep Fee: $55
Finance @2.94% with (14k down): $1,441

Total OTD: 33,972

I know ouch... I got upsold on the stupid warranty, never buy the warranty... but I was in the moment and I'm worried about the first year model glitches.

I got the 8yr/100k for my FR-S for $1600. Better to be safe, than sorry. :o\

W2 06-05-2012 10:13 PM

$25,340 OTD

Firestorm FR-S with trunk mat and wheel locks.

3.2% VA tax, $399 Doc fee, and $1,000 recent graduate rebate.

Oriental Life 06-05-2012 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buggy51 (Post 243175)
Wow, what company did you go with to get that interest rate? o_O

I got pre-approved by TechCU, San Jose for 1.99% APR with 25% down prior to the purchase. Told Capitol Subaru finance manager and my sales guy Eugene that upfront. They wanted my business and it was the last day of Subaru's Memorial Day sales event. So, they gave me a slightly better deal to get my business.

I said it several times on here - work with local credit unions, they are the best when it comes to car loans rates. If not for the Subaru special, I would have worked with them.

HotLeopardMama 06-05-2012 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oriental Life (Post 243249)
I got pre-approved by TechCU, San Jose for 1.99% APR with 25% down prior to the purchase. Told Capitol Subaru finance manager and my sales guy Eugene that upfront. They wanted my business and it was the last day of Subaru's Memorial Day sales event. So, they gave me a slightly better deal to get my business.

I said it several times on here - work with local credit unions, they are the best when it comes to car loans rates. If not for the Subaru special, I would have worked with them.

Yeah, my local CU offered 2.99%, Toyota/Scion offered 3.25%, and the dealer's finance guys shopped and got 2.09%, then got an answer back for 1.99% the next day and had me rescind & re-sign at the lower rate. 1.8%'s great! Wow! :eyebulge:

Best part about it was getting getting to see my Experian FICO credit score for free - I don't think you get the score for free usually, just the report, so that was nice. My score was WAY higher than I thought it'd be. :thumbup:

rcm47 06-06-2012 03:40 AM

Damn you guys have ridiculously low APR. Mine is like ridiculously stupid high. 15% with toyota financing -___-

fistpoint 06-06-2012 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcm47 (Post 243826)
Damn you guys have ridiculously low APR. Mine is like ridiculously stupid high. 15% with toyota financing -___-

Holy shit! You need a secured credit card to get you started, use it only for gas and pay it off in full every month. Get your credit score increased and refinance for gods sake.

Why would you even consider buying a new vehicle, let alone a $25k one with credit that results in an APR that high? Priorities man...

WolfsFang 06-06-2012 04:40 AM

After everything my FRS was about 27,790 and i put 3k down with a monthly payment of $450, not so bad and cheaper then my monthly evo payment.

86design 06-06-2012 05:01 AM

Subaru BRZ $28,455, $3400 down, payments $491 a month great deal for me...I use to pay $630 for my Evo 10 :(

Moto-P 06-06-2012 05:06 AM

$26,371 MSRP+ Destination
$29,018 After Tax License in Downey, CA

FRS Whiteout, AT, no additional options or Due Bill.
Toyota Finance 3.8% APR/36mo

Erroneous 06-07-2012 12:09 PM

Noob here (been lurking a while), so I didn't want to start a new thread, but I have a few questions I'm hoping someone here can help answer.

I'm looking at some FR-S inventories online, and the one I want has a for sale price of $28,205. Are the options included in that price mandatory? Obviously, if it has the tint, that's not coming off, but what about the warranty, mud guards, and things like that? Can I whittle the price down by telling the dealer I don't want some of those options?

And for anyone taking advantage of the school grad program, is that something I can ask about once I walk into the dealership? I graduated in May of 2010, so I may have missed the 2-year cutoff, but I thought maaaaaaybe I'd qualify regardless...

DantKR 06-07-2012 12:12 PM

29500 after tax tag title extended warranty and 1k down.

kevinnivek8877 06-07-2012 01:19 PM

Depends on the extra. If it was port installed, its not coming off. I had to pay extra for the stupid homelink mirror, rear diffuser, and chrome fender grill since I just couldn't wait for a new stock.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erroneous (Post 246470)
Noob here (been lurking a while), so I didn't want to start a new thread, but I have a few questions I'm hoping someone here can help answer.

I'm looking at some FR-S inventories online, and the one I want has a for sale price of $28,205. Are the options included in that price mandatory? Obviously, if it has the tint, that's not coming off, but what about the warranty, mud guards, and things like that? Can I whittle the price down by telling the dealer I don't want some of those options?

And for anyone taking advantage of the school grad program, is that something I can ask about once I walk into the dealership? I graduated in May of 2010, so I may have missed the 2-year cutoff, but I thought maaaaaaybe I'd qualify regardless...


Sigh-on-Rice 06-07-2012 01:56 PM

$25,150 (car) + $175 (doc fee) + $1,193.31 (tax) + $265.83 (license & registration) = $26,784.14 (OTD)

denkigrve 06-07-2012 02:09 PM

$28,009 out the door.
3.09% financing.
Put down $14,000.
My monthly payment is $251.

The car had a clear bra, rear appliqué, trunk mat, and wheel locks.

eriktherod 06-07-2012 02:31 PM

24,200 base (MT, Firestorm Red)
+ 730 delivery (part of MSRP)
+ 399 tint (southeast legal, optional)
+ 199 3M paint film (optional)
+ 129 mud guards (optional)
+ 129 trunk mat (optional)
+ 845 bespoke 8 spkr audio (optional)
-------------------------
26,686 after options

- 13,500 trade in (08 Si @ 65k)
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13,186

+ 396 sales tax (NC 3%, after trade-in)

+ 599 DOC fee
+ 129 TTL
+ 6,000 payoff (loan)
-------------------------
20,310 out the door!

Doing 72 months @ 7.64% (not much credit history) because the payments are fairly low and I can dump my bonuses and tax returns into the back end and pay it off sooner.

finch1750 06-07-2012 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotLeopardMama (Post 243230)
I got the 8yr/100k for my FR-S for $1600. Better to be safe, than sorry. :o\

I got the 8yr/100k to. I mean it covers the alternator even, so you know it'll partially pay itself back. Plus Toyota seems much better than SOA when it comes to covering warrantee repairs. Plus they lowered my sales tax to where I live versus where I purchased (.5% difference) and dropped my rate from 3.19% to 2.89% percent. Mine was a bit over $30k OTD after everthing. Put $9k down+$1K grad rebate got me payments of $397/month.

2013 Whiteout A/T w/ carpeted trunk mat, wheel locks, bumper applique, and something else I can't remember right now. lol

BioRage 06-07-2012 02:43 PM

BRZ Limited in Canada.

$35,xxx,xxx. OTD

(As per Subaru.ca)

Scion FR-S
$31, xxx, xxx OTD:

(As per Scion.ca)

--- Prices without negotiations ---

pr086 06-07-2012 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eriktherod (Post 246715)
24,200 base (MT, Firestorm Red)
+ 730 delivery (part of MSRP)
+ 399 tint (southeast legal, optional)
+ 199 3M paint film (optional)
+ 129 mud guards (optional)
+ 129 trunk mat (optional)
+ 845 bespoke 8 spkr audio (optional)
-------------------------
26,686 after options

- 13,500 trade in (08 Si @ 65k)
-------------------------
13,186

+ 396 sales tax (NC 3%, after trade-in)

+ 599 DOC fee
+ 129 TTL
+ 6,000 payoff (loan)
-------------------------
20,310 out the door!

Doing 72 months @ 7.64% (not much credit history) because the payments are fairly low and I can dump my bonuses and tax returns into the back end and pay it off sooner.


that looks like a good trade in price, what condition was your si in? i have an 07 si with about 50k miles i'll be trading in. i have one small door ding and the clear coat on the roof has erroded away leaving a few medium size splotches of faded paint. (this is a known issue with the paint on the si, i babied the crap out of that thing and always had it washed and waxed). just wondering if these will affect the trade in price by a lot, or if it would be worth having them fixed first.

edit- forgot to mention i have the navigation system, factory aero kit, and factory performance suspension on mine. that should all factor in as well right?

eriktherod 06-07-2012 03:13 PM

My Si was not spotless, but I used touch-up paint to cover most of the little things. Mine was black, and the paint on the hood was starting to get 'crow's feet'. I had somewhat similar spots in some areas of the paint fade.

I had the navi but removed it for an aftermarket kit, so I don't think I got the $ for that. I didn't have any aero kits, but I did have some Rota wheels, lowered springs, and a bunch of performance mods but I doubt that's added value to the car. Maybe the Alpine amp and tint did, I dunno.

It's pretty much spot on with KBB value, you might be able to get $14k+ since you're still within powertrain warranty from Honda. I want to say if it's a Sedan, you'll be able to push slightly more for your trade since it's an easier car for them to sell to someone else (coupe is annoying with kids).

fistpoint 06-07-2012 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eriktherod (Post 246715)
13,500 trade in (08 Si @ 65k)

Ouch :(

9 years ago my insurance co gave me $14700 for a stock '00 Si with 67k miles(3.5 years old/high mileage penalty included!)...rated in average condition because the thieves torched it and I had no proof it was better than average.

The guy who said that was a good price on the trade...not even close, unless it's a pawn shop. Trade-in = rape every time.

elenien 06-08-2012 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W2 (Post 243233)
$25,340 OTD

Firestorm FR-S with trunk mat and wheel locks.

3.2% VA tax, $399 Doc fee, and $1,000 recent graduate rebate.

Sigh... my CA tax was 7.75%, though my doc fee was just $55 (plus a $29 electronic dmv filing fee).

Tbomb 25 06-08-2012 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elenien (Post 247844)
Sigh... my CA tax was 7.75%, though my doc fee was just $55 (plus a $29 electronic dmv filing fee).

Very nice this will be about mine will be....


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