Should I get a scion frs right now or wait?
 

I am deciding whether to get a scion frs right now or wait for the 2nd generation to come out and use my sister's scion tc (first generation). Also when should I expect for the 2nd generation to come out?

it depends entirely on what you want to do. what do you want to do?

Depends what your going after...

the reason i bought a 2015 one is because it fit everything i wanted. The raw oldschool jdm feel and good on gas as well as rear seats and had a sexy body.

No idea what the next gen will look like or when it will come out and don't really care haha.

However, if something like hp is holding you back and you want to wait for 2nd gen in hope it will be quicker than wait.

I notice that in life, if you don't buy what you want, you'll regret it.

So don't feel pressured into the purchase and really look at the FRS and question what you don't like about it and if that will be something you will regret not having.

If you're waiting for the next generation FRS, that might be 2017. Toyota generally has done this cycle with their cars:

Year 1-4 (4 Years) -- Car will have slight to no differences.

Year 5 - 7 (2 Years) - Facelift

Next Generation then comes.

Don't expect a turbo or AWD, look at Tada's Q&A video.

If you're going to buy a normal 2015, it doesn't matter when you buy it this year. All this pure pricing makes it impossible to negotiate the price.

If you want a 2015 TRD Yellow FRS, jump on it now because it's in limited production.

If you're eyeing a 2013-2014 FRS, take your time and negotiate because those are just sitting on the lot and dealers want to move it.

Waiting for a newer "better" version is a bit of a crap shoot. Sometimes they are better sometimes they are not. I have seen some great cars "improved" to the point they were no longer even remotely the same as the models that made them popular in the first place.
I do not see massive changes in the FRS's future even in the next generation as they spent a pile of time and money making the car they were looking for in the first place.
Another consideration that people tend to not think of is what the government may mandate in the period between major changes. As N1rve says, Toyota is pretty predictable in their pattern of upgrades.
This would put the fully changed, next generation version sometime around 2018-19. In the period in between any government (remember this is a global platform) could change the crash survivability, emission control, minimum mileage or any other requirement they can think of. Any one of these requirements could have a major impact on the what the car turns into.
Even if no government makes a change, Toyota itself may decide they have got as much as they can out of the current target demographic and change the car to meet a larger audience. It is actually my opinion that they have already started this process, with the suspension changes in the 2015s (not saying it is better or worse) which has made the car more appealing to a larger market. Who knows, they may even decide that is isn't making enough money and drop it altogether.


Now, on the plus side changes in technology, consumer feedback, lessons learned from current models and even designer passion may produce a next gen that is spectacular!


Soooo... to wait or not wait, that is the question.

It's debatable, but pictures of said sister may help.

Doesn't matter when is a good time to buy an FRS you can't haggle the price

I thought the second gen was already out as being gay. I am sticking to my belief that the first gen will be the best.

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Right Now ! That means IMMEDIATELY

get the yellow trd!

At this point, I would wait. There are several cool cars that might be on the horizon.

I was just in the same position as the OP. I drove an FRS for the first time yesterday and HAD to pull the trigger - immediately. Awesome car.

Plenty of haggle room btw, at least in my experience.

Or, they could gradually raise the price until it no longer fits the original market it was intended for. Which is what happened to the car this one reminds me of most, the Porsche 944. Affordable at introduction, then "improved" to the point of unaffordable.

I would find a 10 series or Monogram. There are still new ones sitting on lots. Check autotrader. I found a few around me that are brand new. I bet they are willing to haggle.

Stay classy ft86 club... stay classy :bellyroll:

Once the new gen comes out you'll be waiting for new-new gen after that because it will be even better

Things don't always move in a direction that will satisfy your personal tastes. Just look at all the versions of the Ford Mustang, holy cow! Some are absolutely horrendous.

From personal experience, I had a 2006 Infiniti G35 coupe, and I knew they would be updating the vehicle. The G37 came out and I honestly didn't like what they did with the styling.

If you're really not in a rush and your sister's TC is in good shape there's no harm in waiting.

There's nothing new happening in 2015, but we should at least know whether there will be any changes for 2016. Then you can make the call if you like the changes or not. You'll still be able to find the current gen if you want, or wait a little longer for the next gen.

In the meantime, put some money away. After a year you'd have a nice down payment ready and if you decide to wait for a possible next gen you'll have an even nicer down payment ready to go.

It is a gamble though. Toyota has the nasty habit of pricing their vehicles out of their class with subsequent versions, and if Toyota doesn't do it the dealers do by tacking on every available option. The FR-S as it currently stands is just not a 30k+ dollar car.

The first of everything is always the best!

There isn't a whole lot they can do to this car to make it substantially better at the same price point. On the other hand, Toyota being the conservative company they are, will probably dumb the car down over time.. Just my guess.

You will have multiple answers here:

1) get an FR-S now because they won't make a second gen. (potentially people upset that a better model will come out)

2) Even if they make a second gen it wont be as awesome as the first. (definitely people upset another model may come out)

3) wait and see (those optimistic about the possibility of the next gen)

4) No one cares do what you want (people like myself who think it's your money so you make the decision, rather than random ass people on the internet.)

Good luck with whatever path you take. I can't imagine you will be upset either way.

I'd personally wait to see what they release or get another car. I know everyone here loves our 86s but I was 50/50 split between the FiST/ FoST and still am even after getting my 86.

IMHO get it now. I see you're in Honolulu which the only dealership is Servco Scion that sells the FRS. Buy it now because they have the :eyebulge:low awesome interest rate of 0.9% for 5 yrs. I bought mine a month ago with that low interest rate which = $558.00 interest for 5 yrs. The low interest rate is good till the end of this month. Buy it, Buy it, Buy it....:thumbup:
http://www.scionhawaii.com/sale/

how about the GTI?

The 2015 FR-S Looks as the complete look of the first gen model, which I believe is the classiest, sexiest looking animal on the streets.
And you never know the 2016 FR-S will come out with a facelift looking completely opposite of its finesse with a bulkier hood... endless. Yuck.

You got $$$ now? Do it!!

If you are willing to wait, you do not really want one. If you don't REALLY want one, don't get a sports-car cause they are not a logical choice in the first place; they are an emotional reaction.

Since you are trying to be all sensible about this purchase, might I recommend something in a nice beige Camry that might make more sense? (yes, I am kidding you)

I don't agree with that, there is nothing wrong with being patient before making a big purchase. I had wanted a 86 since the concepts came out. I knew I would own one, it was just a matter of time. I'm glad I waited because I was able to get a Monogram, which was exactly what I wanted. If I had pulled the trigger early, I would have had a small level of regret.

Waiting wouldn't hurt. Especially since you'll probably get a steal on the current Gen if you're not a fan of the new one.

Anyone else sick of threads like this? :bonk:

The problem I see with waiting is there are no other cars like it, either now or in the immediate future.

ND Miata appears to be convertible only. New Mustang is 3600-3900 lbs, depending on trim. The new Camaro promises to be lighter, but will exceed 3400 lbs. Alfa 4c is well over $50k. Nissan IDX concept likely won't make it to production due to lack of potential platform sharing options. The Kia Stinger concept probably has the best chance of production, but it's not a sure bet and the stripped down concept car was already pushing 2900 lbs.

The FR-S, being a sub-2800 lbs RWD coupe for $25k, is kind of a unicorn. You can wait but the question is, wait for what?

Wouldn't be to bad if it weren't for the fact that the OPs of these threads will ask the question then usually argue most of the answers. This means they already have decided one way or the other and are just looking to justify their decision.

Or

They ask the question and are never heard from again (like this one) which means that they were either just trolling or never had any intention of buying.

Should I wait for a Release Series 2.0? Will there even be one?

There probably will be and it will feature upgraded seat stitching and have light up door locks or something along those lines!

you could play this game all day..

Should i wait for 2017 next generation?
Should i wait for 2018 because of 2017 issues?
Should i wait for 2019 special edition?
Should i wait for 2020 Super-Lucky special edition?

If you can afford the car/ payments now, id say just get a current gen. You can sit at home wondering what the next MY will be like. there are plenty of models to choose from. if you plan on keeping the car further down the road, you can tell people that you own a first gen model. Straight OG.

Guys!
Might as well quite responding as the OP made this thread on Nov 23 and his profile shows he has never logged on again since.

He is just wasting your time at this point which as odd a hobby as that seems to me must be his form of entertainment.

Eh it would still be bad. This information is all over the forums, it's staying NA and there will most likely be a face lift in the future.

There needs to be an "Ask a Stupid Question" sub forum I swear, read people read!

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But nobody would use it as they think it is a perfectly reasonable question.
Of the 100 or so questions I have had on the car I have asked 1 and that was more a matter of opinion than tech info. Got a handful of real answers and closed it out with the conclusion, all was cool. The other 99 I spent literally minutes checking the threads for what I needed to know and found answers for everything already existed.
Now... for guys like me (and quite a few others I am aware of) that are here for the entertainment there is still value in these threads as they can be a blast to read!

Haha I agree that some are definitely entertaining... The most entertaining one thus far was that guy with the flame decals on his doors, underglow, and rocket bunny wing. And he asked for everyone's thoughts on his build. That's the kind of entertainment I like!

However lately these lazy threads seem to be popping up more.

Also there should be a "Financial Advice" sub forum because that seems to be another popular topic haha... Not like people would use it though :eyebulge:

A financial advice sub that locks you out from replying if you are not from the same State/Country/Continent as the OP!
Wish I had a dollar for every guy from the States that says "Dude, you can get one for $24K" to somebody in Canada where $28K is a good deal!

Maybe we can jack it enough that people will stop responding and it will die!!!!

Oh, who am I kidding, any second now another person with sage advice will jump right in and give yet another lecture on why not to wait. It may be worded slightly different from the second post on the thread but they will think it is new!