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Drakelee117 11-20-2014 09:42 AM

Safety precautions before practicing burnout?
 
I found an empty parking lot and am planning to try to do some burnouts. Is there any safety precaustions I should pay attention to?

JozhGoober 11-20-2014 10:17 AM

Honestly? Just don't do burnouts. You're putting a lot of stress on the drivetrain to turn expensive rubber into a useless cloud of smoke. This isn't a big V8 getting ready to tear down the 1/4 mile, this car doesn't have anything to prove.

But if you insist, make sure TC is off and watch out for light poles. That's how we got our last race car for cheap, some teenager was hooning his MR2 Spyder around a parking lot and nailed THE ONLY light pole in the lot. His (embarrassing) loss, our benefit!

Drakelee117 11-20-2014 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JozhGoober (Post 2029034)
Honestly? Just don't do burnouts. You're putting a lot of stress on the drivetrain to turn expensive rubber into a useless cloud of smoke. This isn't a big V8 getting ready to tear down the 1/4 mile, this car doesn't have anything to prove.

But if you insist, make sure TC is off and watch out for light poles. That's how we got our last race car for cheap, some teenager was hooning his MR2 Spyder around a parking lot and nailed THE ONLY light pole in the lot. His (embarrassing) loss, our benefit!

What about just regular drifting or donuts?

D_Thissen 11-20-2014 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JozhGoober (Post 2029034)
Honestly? Just don't do burnouts. You're putting a lot of stress on the drivetrain to turn expensive rubber into a useless cloud of smoke. This isn't a big V8 getting ready to tear down the 1/4 mile, this car doesn't have anything to prove.

But if you insist, make sure TC is off and watch out for light poles
. That's how we got our last race car for cheap, some teenager was hooning his MR2 Spyder around a parking lot and nailed THE ONLY light pole in the lot. His (embarrassing) loss, our benefit!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drakelee117 (Post 2029054)
What about just regular drifting or donuts?

Same thing

aznatama 11-20-2014 12:45 PM

East to reduce shock to drivetrain... do it in the snow. LOL

Or since you're in FL, lube it up w/ tire lube.

Leonardo 11-20-2014 01:51 PM

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Vides990 11-20-2014 02:10 PM

Just sell your car OP, if you need to ask, you probably shouldn't be driving.

OkieSnuffBox 11-20-2014 02:24 PM

Someone to video so we can watch you crash?

Koa 11-20-2014 02:46 PM

this ^

NOHOME 11-20-2014 03:01 PM

On a more serious note...if there is anything to hit within a mile, DO NOT LOOK AT IT.

Believe it or not, that is how you hit the only light pole in a ten acre parking lot.

In order for the car to be fully on-board with this kind of activity, you need to do what is known as the "pedal dance" that makes ALL the nanies go away.

The irony of the Twins is that while they are touted as drift cars, they are really too stable and low-powered for the job description. Now, if you have a snow covered parking lot, then you are talking!

stugray 11-20-2014 03:09 PM

Hey! I just bought this Fabrege' Gold egg from Sotheby's....

What is the best method to Plasti-dip it neon green?

aznatama 11-20-2014 03:10 PM

This thread is cancer

mav1178 11-20-2014 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JozhGoober (Post 2029034)
Honestly? Just don't do burnouts.

Burnouts, it's useless I agree.

Drifting? It's completely different. So are donuts. Both are good for learning throttle control at the limits.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOHOME (Post 2029466)
On a more serious note...if there is anything to hit within a mile, DO NOT LOOK AT IT.

Yup. In almost every type of driving condition, you look where you want to go.

-alex

kberkel 11-20-2014 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOHOME (Post 2029466)
On a more serious note...if there is anything to hit within a mile, DO NOT LOOK AT IT.

Target fixation is a bitch.

The drivetrain is perfectly capable of some stress. IMO in this car, sliding around is most fun in rain and snow. Dry ground is just wasting tire tread.

LOL at all the crash posts. This car is fun to toss around, and this car is not a A-B type car. You all are way too sheltered, sell your car so others can have more fun.

For the OP - Turn off the nannies, and go have a good time. That's what the car is for.

Fastbrew 11-21-2014 06:55 AM

Yes - yes there are safety precautions you must take before even thinking of attempting the very technical "burnout".

1) Make sure you have a will because you will probably die
2) Make sure you have life insurance that is up-to-date
3) Make sure there is nothing in your oven
4) Make sure all animals and children have proper supervision while you are entering "The Zone"
5) Make sure you have splatter proof pants
6) Put on your +2 undies of self-confidence
7) Put on your +3 cod-piece of Hoonage
8) Adjust your helmet
9) 5-point harness
10) Over inflate the tires
11) Drink 2 Redbulls
12) Put 3 or 4 new stickers on your car
13) Flash some Vs at nearby cameras
14) Make a stop to the restroom to get rid of additional weight
15) Get an AVO turbo (ding!)
16) NoS - Gonna need at least a double-shot
17) Be inside the car
18) Pedal Dancing with The Stars
19) Fill Tank with rocket fuel
20) Spray ground with Extra Virgin Olive Oil
21) Turn up VH Runnin with the Devil
22) Install positraction and a Hurst shifter
23) Wheelie bars
24) Sleep at a Holiday Inn Express the night before
25) Eat your Wheaties
26) Start the car
28) Grab the wheel as hard as you can
29) Put on your gloves
30) Grab the wheel as hard as you can again
31) Rev the engine menacingly
32) Have self-doubt
33) Have tuner enable in rev-limiter
34) Go back through all these steps again
35) Realize the parking lot will be too small
36) Rent an airstrip
37) Get Goose and Iceman to do a fly-over
38) Say a prayer
39) Don't Forget To Drink Your Ovaltine
40) Text your loved ones
41) Put down the clutch
42) Rev it up
43) Check your instrumentation panel
44) Disable your airbags
45) Wave at the pit crew
47) Deploy bleach
48) Pop The Clutch
49) Enjoy the little tire squeak
50) Post video to youtube

BRZ21 11-21-2014 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastbrew (Post 2030344)
36) Rent an airstrip
37) Get Goose and Iceman to do a fly-over
38) Say a prayer

*SPOILER*
dude... goose dies...

DavidBob 11-21-2014 10:40 AM

I took my brz out in the rain a couple days ago and just can't keep it sideways, ive drifted a turbo'd 240 before but i just cant slide this car as easily... Because of less power maybe?

DavidBob 11-21-2014 10:55 AM

And no need to flame on the op

BRZ21 11-21-2014 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidBob (Post 2030434)
I took my brz out in the rain a couple days ago and just can't keep it sideways, ive drifted a turbo'd 240 before but i just cant slide this car as easily... Because of less power maybe?

if you learned to drift using power I can see how it would be a tough transition. momentum, thats all you need...

mav1178 11-21-2014 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidBob (Post 2030434)
I took my brz out in the rain a couple days ago and just can't keep it sideways, ive drifted a turbo'd 240 before but i just cant slide this car as easily... Because of less power maybe?

Poor technique.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGwnf2tyDPA"]BRZ drifting @ Vegas Drift 05.30.14 - YouTube[/ame]

If I had a longer sweeper I can slide it all day.

This was without clutch kick... if I clutch kick, zero issues sliding.
Engine is stock except for Crawford BPB.

-alex

Trettiosjuan 11-21-2014 01:27 PM

Bring a fire extinguisher. You will either fry your brakes, your clutch or your tires depending on how well you execute the burnout, and any of those may catch fire.

BRZ21 11-21-2014 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2030582)
Poor technique.

BRZ drifting @ Vegas Drift 05.30.14 - YouTube

If I had a longer sweeper I can slide it all day.

This was without clutch kick... if I clutch kick, zero issues sliding.
Engine is stock except for Crawford BPB.

-alex

this can be said nicer

mav1178 11-21-2014 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRZ21 (Post 2030589)
this can be said nicer

Let me say it nicer then:

@DavidBob it's not because of lack of power. It's because you are using poor technique to induce/maintain a slide in your car. I can slide perfectly fine with my stock engine/drivetrain (with addition of Crawford BPB).

-alex

BRZ21 11-21-2014 01:35 PM

haha thanks mav

BTW i saw you had a link but I can't open it at work. Is it you driving?

mav1178 11-21-2014 01:37 PM

Yes, it was from Vegas Drift event back in May.

I've never been a huge fan of Torsen diff in drifting, my transitions left/right are sloppy because the diff is borderline like an open diff when you go sharply from one direction to another.

-alex

DavidBob 11-21-2014 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2030604)
Yes, it was from Vegas Drift event back in May.

I've never been a huge fan of Torsen diff in drifting, my transitions left/right are sloppy because the diff is borderline like an open diff when you go sharply from one direction to another.

-alex

Yeaa throwing it from left to right is really aggressive to say the least lol i get thrown around in the car, it tries to like snap back into going straight. I dont know if that makes sense

shifter907 11-21-2014 02:24 PM

Buy some cheap used WRX wheels with crap tires and go drift around on those. It's so much more fun, and a lot less worrying than burning up my stock tires. This car is easy enough to slide around without having to add much power.

stugray 11-21-2014 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidBob (Post 2030434)
I took my brz out in the rain a couple days ago and just can't keep it sideways, ive drifted a turbo'd 240 before but i just cant slide this car as easily... Because of less power maybe?

Sorry to ask, but you DID disable TC/VSC right?

I tried to spin the car in a parking lot in the rain and it refused to do so with TC/VSC in the default state.
With the TC/VSC disabled (5 sec press), you can slide, but you can feel the car fighting the slide somewhat.

After the pedal dance, I filpped end for end a few times (on purpose of course).

DavidBob 11-21-2014 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shifter907 (Post 2030677)
Buy some cheap used WRX wheels with crap tires and go drift around on those. It's so much more fun, and a lot less worrying than burning up my stock tires. This car is easy enough to slide around without having to add much power.

Yeaa i use my stocks for drifting i have separate wheels for every day use.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stugray (Post 2030685)
Sorry to ask, but you DID disable TC/VSC right?

I tried to spin the car in a parking lot in the rain and it refused to do so with TC/VSC in the default state.
With the TC/VSC disabled (5 sec press), you can slide, but you can feel the car fighting the slide somewhat.

After the pedal dance, I filpped end for end a few times (on purpose of course).

Yeaa i did the pedal dance and yes i spun out a couple times lol

Akari 11-21-2014 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidBob (Post 2030707)
Yeaa i use my stocks for drifting i have separate wheels for every day use.



Yeaa i did the pedal dance and yes i spun out a couple times lol

I never really got the hang of it until I had some time on a skidpad. Once you get some more practice you'll start to pick it up pretty quick, my main mistake was not being smooth enough with my throttle input after I entered a slide.

I easily burned a few 32nds off of my stock tires getting this right. It's much, much more fun on Pilot Super Sports but I refuse to ruin my good tires!

HeadBanger 11-23-2014 08:33 AM

[ame="http://youtu.be/QSfn7wN7Uuc"]http://youtu.be/QSfn7wN7Uuc[/ame]

Not a long clip because I didn't want to stink up the garage too much :)


You need to do the pedal dance, otherwise it'll basically cut the engine.
Clutch in
~4500 RPM
Dump the clutch, and immediately get on the brakes with your left foot
You might not figure it out the first try
You'll need to play with how much throttle and brakes you're giving. If you see your revs are dropping give it a little less brakes.

Just make sure there's nothing around you, and if you feel like you're going to hit something or get into trouble or whatever, then clutch in, and brakes if you need to.

Hope this helped :)

White64Goat 11-23-2014 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastbrew (Post 2030344)
Yes - yes there are safety precautions you must take before even thinking of attempting the very technical "burnout".

1) Make sure you have a will because you will probably die
2) Make sure you have life insurance that is up-to-date
3) Make sure there is nothing in your oven
4) Make sure all animals and children have proper supervision while you are entering "The Zone"
5) Make sure you have splatter proof pants
6) Put on your +2 undies of self-confidence
7) Put on your +3 cod-piece of Hoonage
8) Adjust your helmet
9) 5-point harness
10) Over inflate the tires
11) Drink 2 Redbulls
12) Put 3 or 4 new stickers on your car
13) Flash some Vs at nearby cameras
14) Make a stop to the restroom to get rid of additional weight
15) Get an AVO turbo (ding!)
16) NoS - Gonna need at least a double-shot
17) Be inside the car
18) Pedal Dancing with The Stars
19) Fill Tank with rocket fuel
20) Spray ground with Extra Virgin Olive Oil
21) Turn up VH Runnin with the Devil
22) Install positraction and a Hurst shifter
23) Wheelie bars
24) Sleep at a Holiday Inn Express the night before
25) Eat your Wheaties
26) Start the car
28) Grab the wheel as hard as you can
29) Put on your gloves
30) Grab the wheel as hard as you can again
31) Rev the engine menacingly
32) Have self-doubt
33) Have tuner enable in rev-limiter
34) Go back through all these steps again
35) Realize the parking lot will be too small
36) Rent an airstrip
37) Get Goose and Iceman to do a fly-over
38) Say a prayer
39) Don't Forget To Drink Your Ovaltine
40) Text your loved ones
41) Put down the clutch
42) Rev it up
43) Check your instrumentation panel
44) Disable your airbags
45) Wave at the pit crew
47) Deploy bleach
48) Pop The Clutch
49) Enjoy the little tire squeak
50) Post video to youtube


51) Get Dominic Toretto to show you how

2pt5RS 11-24-2014 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2030582)
Poor technique.

BRZ drifting @ Vegas Drift 05.30.14 - YouTube

If I had a longer sweeper I can slide it all day.

This was without clutch kick... if I clutch kick, zero issues sliding.
Engine is stock except for Crawford BPB.

-alex


hey alex, how many cats did you get to have sex to make the tires screech like that? :bellyroll:

juliog 11-24-2014 06:19 PM

Wow @mav1178 I need some drifting lessons :O


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