Down goes the raven :(
 

Sorry to make another one of these post but can anyone who may have some experience in estimating let me know about how much damage I am looking at? Lady decided to run a stop sign and plowed into me in the middle of a busy intersection. I am fairly positive it's not totaled but I could be wrong. Driver side air bag did deploy. There's also some rear axle damage as the rear wheel got hit pretty good and obviously isn't straight in the wheel well anymore. Trunk floor board is crumpled up too. Car has 52,000 miles on it.

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Let's put it into perspective...
 

This is the damage to my car from a couple of months ago...

His insurance estimated it at $4300 in damages, the body shop for the dealership I work for estimated $5200 in damages...

So figure that yours will likely cost three times that, they may total it.

Jaden

p.s. funny too, cause I was just getting ready to post a thread about this...

Wow. $5200 for that is pretty steep. Yea I was guessing mine would be able $10-12k in damages but I'm not sure if that's enough to call it a total lost or not.

YIKES .......that's a bad hit ......:(

I doubt they will try to fix it.


humfrz

I would have cried if that were me

rear quarter panels and roof are all one single piece from what i can see. This leads to high costs to fix those parts when damaged.

Tears have already been shed :brokenheart: I'm ready to move on now. Hope they just total it out as it will never be the same now

I hope they total it for you as well buddy. Glad you're okay. What would you get next?

Pretty sure ur car is done.

car is done, almost identical accident happened to my raven too... im sorry lad

So was she texting, or eating breakfast, or just decided that stop signs didn't apply to her on that particular day?

Yeah that's probably a junk yard car now. Trunk crumpled? I wouldn't want to drive it.

Ya, it will get a salvage title then 6 months from now there will be a post here saying "Just got a really nice Raven that had to be rebuilt after an accident" or "what do you guys think of this deal? It was a salvage car that got hit in the back, etc. etc."

Oh, and with all the "thin paint" complaints why do all these seriously damaged cars always seem to have very little actual paint damage? A small stone leaves a big chip but a major crumple looks like it could be bent back out (know it is more than that) buffed up and the paint will look as good as new.

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Seriously I was just wondering that. My FR-S looks like it has more body damage then my 23 year old VR4. Yet in all the pictures I've seen of these that may get totaled the paint doesn't have a single imperfection even if its on pieces all over the floor. I'm sorry this happened to you JW. Hopefully you find something good. If you get about 23k for it you could get a decent 6spd TT Supra. Hell You'd be able to get a stock auto TT Supra in near immaculate shape for that much.

Not so fast everybody. He lives in Texas. Texas is the only state that uses at total loss ratio of 100%. By statute, the cost of the repairs have to total up to 100% of the car's cash value before it is required by statute to be totaled. If the car was worth $20K and the repairs totaled $19,500, the insurance company could still opt to repair the car and give it back to him without a salvage title.

They can total it at a lower amount, but they don't have to. I'm not sure what they do in actual practice.

Yeah, if they don't total it you'll be driving a sidewinder for sure. That's major structural damage.

Well I thought so but the body shop just called and said the insurance agent showed up today and said it looks like $7,200 worth. They say there's no structural damage?! What the hell? Can I fight this??? The left floor corner of the trunk is crumpled...

Trunk is not structural damage and easily replaced.

You always have the right to get your own estimate.

I understand the trunk isn't but the axle is bent as well... Wheel is turned 45 degrees In the wheel well

Still not structural? Axle isn't part of the cars structure...

I see trunk, trunk floor, tail light, bumper, crash bar, axle, and rear quarter. None of which is structure damage. Oh and air bag since you said it went. Fyi, curtain air bags are just under 1k, airbag and module together. Bumper, cover, trunk floor is around 1600 total. No idea on tail light, axle, and trunk.

And yes, those prices are from experience and acquired from toyota.

There easily could be just alot of suspension parts that have broke or bent, which are not that hard to replace.

I would try for another estimate though.

dude when they looked at my car they said they stopped looking at the damages once they hit 16k... so idk man!

It's a unit body - the rear quarter is part of the structure of the car. To repair it correctly, they will have to cut it out and weld in a whole new rear quarter. I'm also not convinced there isn't further frame damage under all that; the fact that the trunk floor has been crumpled (which is inside the frame) from a hit to the outside quarter means the energy transferred in from somewhere.

Any inspection will easily show that chunk has been replaced and most any dealer will consider it frame damage.

The trunk pan is a crumple zone and will crumple even in a low speed rear ending. I can look at my invoice and tell you how much everything he needs costs at dealer pricing with oem parts. And his estimate is about right.

Keep in mind, it seems like this is also his FIRST estimate, which means he still has the 2nd estimate after the car is torn down. But, I also just had 3/4ths of the car fixed and my total was 9000.

Sorry for the shit luck. I'm dodging oblivious senior citizens on the daily here in FL. I hope your happy with how this resolves. gl!

IMHO it looks completely repairable without totaling. Only the crumply bits crumpled as they should which protected the frame (From what I can see and infer from the 1st estimate). Even though it's a unibody car it still has what's considered a frame which is the integrated structural foundation of a unibody chassis.

I've bent lots of wheels/axles/control arms on various cars without ever hurting a pickup point in the one case I did it was easily remedied by a body shop.

If the body shop you go to is high caliber, you should be good as new and not be able to tell anything happened.