Ebola Virus...
 

I don't watch the news much, but my wife is panicking and it's making me nervous.

I don't mean to spread incorrect information so please feel free to correct me or add to me, but I heard a guy from Africa flew down to the Dallas area and died very soon afterwards. The nurse(s) that were taking care of him have it now?

Another family about 70 miles south of Dallas has it and they blocked off the city...

I read that Ebola has caused about 4,000 deaths in Africa.

Anyone know how bad this could get here? I hear it's spreading, just don't know how quick... :(

Pardon me if this has been posted somewhere here already.

So far there has been 3 cases of this Ebola strain outside of the effected area. One nurse in Spain, and the 2 nurses now in Texas that treated (name here). And yes he did did shortly after. Over 4,000 people according to WHO have died, over 8,000 have contracted it in total. The newest development is that the nurse just diagnosed was on a plane the day before she was admitted to hospital. Experts say that you can't pass it on without showing symptoms, but they're still going to monitor those people on the plane.

Theoretically it shouldn't get far in devoleped countries, theoretically you can only catch it through bodily fluids. But then again the first nurse said she followed protocol "to the letter" and she still got it. After the second nurse got it people have been saying they weren't trained, or given proper gear.

Scary shit, but unless the virus evolves it's not the biggest risk right now for people In developed countries.

I also just read that if more effort isn't put into the effected zone in Africa that new cases could reach 5,000 new cases every month. I got this from the bbc.


Edit: WHO actually said it could be 5,000 new cases a WEEK, instead of a month. It quilt mentions the other cases but that's another strain supposedly? Haven't seen anything else mentioned.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29632433

Here's everything that needs to be done to control the spread of Ebola.

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We're all gunna die.

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Or....

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destiny becomes a reality and we all move to the moon

In my opinion, what Duncan did was not only selfish but extremely stupid. This whole clusterf**k is his fault. What amazes me even more is how so many are attempting to turn this case into a race related issue.

Did the OP just crawl out from under a rock or something? Seriously.

The virus basically disappears from the human population once all affected patients are isolated. That is what has happened several times in past outbreaks. The difference is that the virus reached urban areas. So, transmission is difficult to prevent as it is difficult to isolate all those affected before they are fully symptomatic.

The only reason Ebola still exists in humans is that it stays in the system of wildlife who are immune and is then reintroduced to humans when they consume affected "bush meat".

It is difficult to imagine how they will stop this outbreak. It seems inhumane to seal borders, but once medical triage, isolation wards, and mass facilities to treat symptoms are in place on a sufficient scale (if it is possible) isolation is probably the only solution. Then hopefully the healthy population can be inoculated with the vaccine.

The scary part is despite extreme precautions health care workers are being affected. A lot of health care workers are needed in Africa, but at the risk of their lives??

Oh yeah? Try being a "second generation Liberian immigrant" whose last name is Duncan(no relation...I hope).

I kinda wanna deactivate my facebook right now because of that...

Honestly unless some major steps are taken to stop the disease where it is spreading, we're going to have a bunch more people like this guy in Texas. Anyone with the means to get out of the area if they think they might have been exposed is going to do so. Human survival instincts will ensure that.

The lucky thing for us over here is that the vast majority of the people over there will never have the means to leave.

I definitely don't like hearing all these jokes/comments about how we should just kill all of the infected, as if that wouldn't be as ineffective as it is inhumane.

Time for us to go. Humanity's time has long past due...

Seriously. "Let me help a sick woman to a taxi in Liberia and then get on a plane to the US. Nothing could be wrong with that idea!"

And people are trying to lay blame on the hospital. "They should have known/reacted faster/magic wand!" Really? No ebola cases diagnosed in the US in... EVER, and they're just supposed to know? How about dumbshit tells more people than just the secretary that he had recently traveled from Liberia. Knowing there was an ebola epidemic in Liberia, I'd have been telling the triage nurse, the doctor, the student nurse taking my temp, everyone. Not just the secretary.

And sadly, Mr. Duncan's failure to disclose his recent travels might just be the reason for what might have been a preventable demise.

They currently take the temperature of travelers leaving West Africa before flying. Soon many countries will probably highly restrict the entry of any passenger aircraft from those areas.

I think we should restrict flights out of those areas. And maybe set up a 10 day quarantine at that end before they can even get on the plane.

I'm just waiting on this to get into the homeless population in a major city. What happens if someone flies into JFK and then pukes in an alley?

His travel disclosure is still up for debate. The above is not widely accepted as fact. IMO there's a lot of CYA going on amongst the airlines, TSA, and hospitals here.

Read here please
http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/la...ephew-says.ece

What can be up for debate is whether or not the second nurse should have even been cleared to travel after such extended exposure to Duncan?

Correct, what happened in the U.S. seems to be the result of a lot of people caught off guard by the first native case. What our systems, agencies, media, government, and public do from this point forward are truly what matter.

This scare is for people have nothing better to do. You know, the guy with the binoculars in the window?

Or the housewife on her iPhone 6 all day.

Ebola is an epidemic in 3rd world contries where they do not have the resources to contain and combat the disease.

Small pox could wipe out many countries in africa. Here in the states, we keep it in a fridge. "just in case".

The flu kills as many as 50,000 people per year right here in the U.S. All this is just sensationalism.

Most of the vocal people, for both sides of the argument, have little to no first or even second-hand experience with this. Just speculation based on what they read.

In this case it's not so much the disease but the process that should worry people. If they can barely handle a "minor" ebola issue what makes you think they can handle a deadlier disease on a larger scale?

It's like a fire alarm drill. People whine and complain and say they don't need it and it's a waste of time. Then sh*t hits the fan and everybody panics because they thought they were prepared.

For those above NOT taking this seriously: You are fooling yourselves!

This is going to get real serious real fast!

My predictions:
1 - If we have found 3 (possibly 5) cases in the US already there are 50 more that we dont know about

2 - I predicted on Monday - "By the end of the week we will have our first public school scare/lcokdown"

3 - By the end of the month we will have our first small town under Marshall Law.

What do we do when a small town is exposed and they refuse to enforce their own quarantine? Answer: National Guard roadblocks.

Mark my words.
FACT: Educated people are smart enough to know what to do.
FACT: MOST of the population of the US is NOT smart and does NOT act rationally in a panic.

I have already told my kids to not touch anyone, or share anything with anyone.
I have warned my HS age daughter that she needs to get ready to switch to home-schooling for the rest of the year.

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Reading this thread brings back some memories of one of my favorite records...

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Make sure your kids don't eat anything too! The food could have been touched by someone with the virus!

Tell them to cover their entire body as well. A fly with Ebola could land on them!

Calm the fuck down sir.

So Tell me what are the consequences of ME overreacting? - Nothing except for some inconvenience.
AND I have told my wife to not buy any fresh produce unless we intend to cook it (no salads for me).

Why dont you "rainbow & cheer" types tell US what the likely scenario is??

This will just some how magically get under control?

Keep in mind that trained healthcare workers took the normal precautions and THEY are infected.
What do you think will happen the first time a kid throws up in the school cafeteria and ends up having a fever? How many times did that happen across the US just today?

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And you think the stock market took a huge hit during the financial crisis???

Wait until this time next month.....

I think I'm going to go buy a case of ammo and a shitload of bleach....

Not to mention that schools have differing absentee policies. A lot of times having a runny nose and sneezing occasionally is not enough to take a kid out of school. And same for adults at work. If you're part time and you don't get sick days, then hours not at work are hours you don't get paid. People go to work well past the point that they shouldn't even be getting out of bed, just because they don't have sick days or can't afford not to work.

Well I don't blame you for being concerned. BUT, with your attitude x millions of others with the same attitude, that's when it becomes CHAOS.

That's when people don't act in an orderly manner and start becoming psychos.

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Who are you, what is your expertise, and why should anyone take what you predict seriously? Betting your answer is along the lines of "just someone who did their research"

No, the irresponsible selfish one was the second fucking nurse who absolutely knew better and flew anyhow. What the fuck was she thinking? Took her own temperature, reported it to the CDC who apparently cleared her because her temp was half a degree too low? WTF? You treated the index patient.

Edit: Sorry. Got excited. A little late to the party.

I'm a healthcare worker in a hospital next to a major international airport

Part of the job, take the bad with the good. Anyone want to ride with me in my BRZ?

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OMG, Stu. You seriously need a timeout.

@ZionsWrath, I'll go.


I'd quote you but you broke the thread.

Nobody should dismiss the Ebola climate as media sensationalism. That's incredibly ignorant.

What is known:
Presently, the CDC and WHO are forecasting that the situation will get severely worse. CDC says that by Jan of 2015, as many as 1.4 million infections may occur within Africa alone.

The virus has a 70% mortality rate.

The CDC has NOT classified it as air born - however they did recently update their classification as potentially transferable within "3 feet of infected or within same room".

They suspect the virus is able to attach to water molecules in the air. As the virus spreads, it has a higher likelihood of mutating into an air born virus.

Almost every hospital in the developed world is incapable of dealing with widespread Ebola.

Nigeria has been able to hold the virus off. They have a better canalization. They are a key in preventing the spread. Wide spread of the virus within Nigeria means fast spread into the United States, France, and Asia since Nigeria is an epicenter of commerce within western Africa.

For what it's worth, I've spoken to my father about this matter. He worked in the University of Nebraska epidemiology research as a doctor back in the 90s. Same unit that presently treating one of the Ebola victims. As one of the lead physicians within his current hospital, he admitted that they have almost zero capabilities of admitting someone with this type of infection.

October & November will be interesting months.

I'm just sitting here.


Hoping our politicians in DC get ebola.


:D

T-virus.

What about the incubation period? (2-21 days I believe)
I think what happened with Duncan is that he wasn't showing symptoms (therefore, got on the plane), but then developed the disease at a later time. So I think people could "slip through the cracks," and that's worrisome.

I'm not too worried, but I am definitely watching the news.

Give it 2 years or less, Ebola will reach that number.

What a half baked statement. Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance.