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Candyapple 06-01-2012 09:04 PM

How much did you pay for your FR-S?
 
Hi, I planning to get this car soon but I would like to know the price range people are paying for this car. This will help me get the idea how much people are paying for it and won't get rip off by the dealer. Thank you!

MVJ1975 06-01-2012 09:21 PM

$26,030 (MSRP) + $730 delivery was the sticker price. No additional options were added or offered (other than the usual after-sale warranty/maintenance/protection things).

tmtownsend 06-01-2012 09:27 PM

When it was all said and down including the interest it was $34,000. Manual and it included about $2500 worth of upgrades, paint prot package, and bumber to bumber warranty. Little bit more then I expected to pay but it s all good. Was able to put a bit down on it.

Candyapple 06-01-2012 09:33 PM

I thought you can negotiate the price. Sorry, but this is actually my first time buying a new car. I always thought people are paying less than the MSRP price or am I wrong?

MVJ1975 06-01-2012 09:38 PM

Not on a Scion. Pure Price means no haggling/negotation. What's on the sticker is what you pay. You can potentially negotiate on things like fees and accessories, but not the car price.

ETA - I wouldn't expect too many dealers would be willing to go below MSRP on this car yet even if you could haggle.

juicyjosh 06-01-2012 09:43 PM

^ That's right. Pure Pricing on Scions should be nationwide, but there are some dealerships that are shady and still mark up the cars. I don't mark up any Scions at my dealership. If any dealership marks up a Scion, my suggestion is to contact the dealership owner and get the difference refunded and then some.

Here's the Monroney sticker off a Firestorm 6-Speed. Bear in mind this is a California FR-S.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...R-Ssticker.jpg

juicyjosh 06-01-2012 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmtownsend (Post 236209)
When it was all said and down including the interest it was $34,000. Manual and it included about $2500 worth of upgrades, paint prot package, and bumber to bumber warranty. Little bit more then I expected to pay but it s all good. Was able to put a bit down on it.

The total number you're stating above depends on your credit, which determines the interest rate, as well as the down payment and the length of the payment term. As such, that number won't apply to most buyers.

When you say "bumber to bumber warranty," I'm assuming you meant "bumper to bumper warranty," which is a term that NO dealership should be saying to you. I'm very specific with my verbiage because I want to ensure that my customers know exactly what's what. I believe it's OUR (meaning: Sales Managers) responsibility to provide accurate information at all times.

I believe we owe it to the buyers to outline everything accurately and disclose everything completely. However, most dealerships are shady and don't share this same sentiment. These are usually the dealerships who don't sell very many cars and have few return customers.

There is no such thing as a "bumper-bumper warranty" because no dealership will cover scratches and impacts to the front and rear bumpers. The correct term used by Scion is "Comprehensive Warranty" which covers parts of the car against failure of components under normal use due to defects in materials or workmanship, excluding the bumpers and normal wear items, such as brake pads and tires. The "Powertrain Warranty" covers the engine, transmission and drive components, including the drive axles and related components.

Hopefully that clears things up :)

PM me for additional information on this amazing car.

Turbowned 06-01-2012 09:57 PM

PAY MSRP AND NO MORE.

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Candyapple 06-01-2012 10:00 PM

Josh can you please take a picture of the sticker for 6 speed automatic? The sticker price for the car is $26,030 (MSRP) + $730 delivery. Does that already include the taxes and licenses fee?

juicyjosh 06-01-2012 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candyapple (Post 236247)
Josh can you please take a picture of the sticker for 6 speed automatic? The sticker price for the car is $26,030 (MSRP) + $730 delivery. Does that already include the taxes and licenses fee?

Yes when I get into work tomorrow. Bear in mind this will be off a California car, so final numbers for different States will be slightly different.

In addition to Nationwide Scion Pure Pricing, you will need to add your local taxes (for example, 8.5%), plus licensing, documentation, and DMV fees (another 1-1.5%) to arrive at your total out-the door price.

Stay tuned...

Matt Andrews 06-02-2012 12:11 AM

what is scion's perspective on dealer doc fees? do they limit them with pure pricing? You speak of other dealers being "shady" and marking up the cars, but a doc fee is nothing other than dealer profit that the sales team isn't paid on.

YukiHachiRoku 06-02-2012 12:14 AM

MSRP ($25150 Pearl Paint that's why markup)
-$1000 college grad rebate (from Toyota)
+$499 Doc Fee
+ 4.2% sales tax =

too lazy to do the math right now lol... but that's the breakdown =P

YukiHachiRoku 06-02-2012 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Andrews (Post 236452)
what is scion's perspective on dealer doc fees? do they limit them with pure pricing? You speak of other dealers being "shady" and marking up the cars, but a doc fee is nothing other than dealer profit that the sales team isn't paid on.

It depends what State you are in, I made a Doc Fee thread that should be floating around here somewhere. ;)

(found it)

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5694

ChicoAOM 06-02-2012 12:33 AM

I paid 26K for mine. I got super lucky and it fell onto my lap. Guy who preordered flaked out on the car and I knew a salesman at Carter Subaru in Washington and got to take it off the lot on May 11th!

ChicoAOM 06-02-2012 12:36 AM

Just realized I posted in the FR-S forum -_- sorry! Nonetheless take care FT86 bretheren!

Lowellrenzo 06-02-2012 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candyapple (Post 236184)
Hi, I planning to get this car soon but I would like to know the price range people are paying for this car. This will help me get the idea how much people are paying for it and won't get rip off by the dealer. Thank you!

25150+1550+299+125+1870 ~ 28000

Linseal 06-02-2012 12:50 AM

$25,600 with the clear bra and delivery.

alyon 06-02-2012 03:24 AM

right around 24.5k after all was set and done.

Good ol college grad discount. I was within 6 days of it ending haha. Milked that fucker.

fistpoint 06-02-2012 04:37 AM

All responses will hopefully include what the MSRP was(varies slightly by area), your tax rate, and any additional fees for a total drive out price.

It's the little misc fees I think most of us will be wanting to know about, because that's where the biggest separation in prices will show up.

AzFranz 06-03-2012 01:50 PM

Everything including interest, tax, blah, blah, blahhhh for my payments mine was 27,492. My "options" were wheels locks, cargo mat and bumper applique. Base price was as advertised 24,200 Plus 730 delivery for 6 MT ultramarine in Arizona. I did have 500 down to secure and 1000 military rebate...fyi.

jflogerzi 06-03-2012 04:56 PM

I paid 25.2K, MSRP with a few extra dealer options (like 150-200$ worth). Argento 6MT

effectz 06-04-2012 01:30 AM

I was quoted for $26,196 otd with no options installed, msrp was $24,930. 1st time buying a new car do you think this is a fair deal?

thanks

thill 06-04-2012 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by effectz (Post 239474)
I was quoted for $26,196 otd with no options installed, msrp was $24,930. 1st time buying a new car do you think this is a fair deal?

thanks

Depends on how much of that out the door price is normal taxes and fees, and how much of that is dealer fees like "doc fees".

Offhand, it seems resonable...

rikdrt1 06-04-2012 03:05 AM

26020 + TAX

6sp AT + some small options....

Double4Free 06-04-2012 11:26 AM

26,030 (car) + 1,800 (extended warranty) + 300 (misc stuff like dealer fee, plates, etc) + 7.25% sales tax - 1000 (new grad discount).

SixSpeed 06-04-2012 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyon (Post 236656)
right around 24.5k after all was set and done.

Good ol college grad discount. I was within 6 days of it ending haha. Milked that fucker.

Wait, when does it end? My dealership told me that it doesn't expire!

whtchocla7e 06-04-2012 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SixSpeed (Post 240012)
Wait, when does it end? My dealership told me that it doesn't expire!

He meant his eligiblity is coming to an end.

To be eligable for the rebate, you must graduate within -+ a certain amount of years from the date of purchase.

Cheddar 06-04-2012 12:14 PM

if it ain't msrp it's not worth it. I got mine for msrp so don't let dealers tell you no one is selling for msrp.

Rejor11 06-04-2012 12:19 PM

I wish I could get that price. Everyone here in Florida (EVERYONE) is marking theirs up by 5 grand.

effectz 06-04-2012 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thill (Post 239479)
Depends on how much of that out the door price is normal taxes and fees, and how much of that is dealer fees like "doc fees".

Offhand, it seems resonable...

they put me down for a 395$ processing fee for consumer services does that seem high?

thill 06-04-2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by effectz (Post 240367)
they put me down for a 395$ processing fee for consumer services does that seem high?

$395 is not high for Virginia.. You can sometimes negotiate this lower, but probably not on a hot car. I bought about 8 new cars in Northern Virginia and if you are buying a popular model they will usually not negotiate much on the processing fees. On a less popular model? All bets are off and you can usually get them to lower the fee or waive it.

What's done is done, enjoy the car!

gingerbred 06-04-2012 03:20 PM

$25,100 Superior Toyota shawnee mission kansas (includes +$250 whiteout)
it was almost too easy, and magically perfect timing on my part
the midwest, after all, is good for something!
:clap:

Lanbaldo3 02-09-2013 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juicyjosh (Post 236228)
^ That's right. Pure Pricing on Scions should be nationwide, but there are some dealerships that are shady and still mark up the cars. I don't mark up any Scions at my dealership. If any dealership marks up a Scion, my suggestion is to contact the dealership owner and get the difference refunded and then some.

Here's the Monroney sticker off a Firestorm 6-Speed. Bear in mind this is a California FR-S.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...R-Ssticker.jpg



hey im new here and just searching alot!!!!! and ive through alot of ppl saying they bought their frs way lower then my price. ok help me out guys. im getting an frs soon just got back from the dealer. from what ive gathered on this forum some ppl saying they bought it 25-28k but is that the total price over all??? cause mine came out to be 31,065 the cars "pure price is at 25,637 then 3k down payment then they said with the documentation fee , license reg ect, it came to 2,185. also theres more with totalk finance charge and there is a deffered price to. so what im tryna say is how much over all are you guys paying??? my rate is 3.64% living in CA let me add that there are no add ons

jflogerzi 02-09-2013 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanbaldo3 (Post 723972)
hey im new here and just searching alot!!!!! and ive through alot of ppl saying they bought their frs way lower then my price. ok help me out guys. im getting an frs soon just got back from the dealer. from what ive gathered on this forum some ppl saying they bought it 25-28k but is that the total price over all??? cause mine came out to be 31,065 the cars "pure price is at 25,637 then 3k down payment then they said with the documentation fee , license reg ect, it came to 2,185. also theres more with totalk finance charge and there is a deffered price to. so what im tryna say is how much over all are you guys paying??? my rate is 3.64% living in CA let me add that there are no add ons

Normally you have the following additional fees: Title, license, dealer fees, Taxes, and then any finance charges.

marky 02-09-2013 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanbaldo3 (Post 723972)
hey im new here and just searching alot!!!!! and ive through alot of ppl saying they bought their frs way lower then my price. ok help me out guys. im getting an frs soon just got back from the dealer. from what ive gathered on this forum some ppl saying they bought it 25-28k but is that the total price over all??? cause mine came out to be 31,065 the cars "pure price is at 25,637 then 3k down payment then they said with the documentation fee , license reg ect, it came to 2,185. also theres more with totalk finance charge and there is a deffered price to. so what im tryna say is how much over all are you guys paying??? my rate is 3.64% living in CA let me add that there are no add ons

yup mine was about that..fees fees fees tax.. are you looking at a Bspoke/whiteout? also dealers will try to add like tints/floor matts ect..they want every cent out of you:bonk: also i dont recall but i read on here that they jacked up the price a bit

Lanbaldo3 02-09-2013 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marky (Post 724018)
yup mine was about that..fees fees fees tax.. are you looking at a Bspoke/whiteout? also dealers will try to add like tints/floor matts ect..they want every cent out of you:bonk: also i dont recall but i read on here that they jacked up the price a bit

no b spoke and just white out. so im getting a good price? thanks very much ive been really stressed over it cause people have been saying im paying too much and im getting ripped off. so i dont really know what to expect plus this is my first car buying straight from dealer. ive had plenty of car since i saw 18 im 24 now all private sale from ppl. from 240s - rx7. and just didnt know what to expect from a dealer. appreciate it. and if anyone else had a different thing please tell me!:bow:

Snowblind 02-09-2013 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanbaldo3 (Post 724025)
no b spoke and just white out. so im getting a good price? thanks very much ive been really stressed over it cause people have been saying im paying too much and im getting ripped off. so i dont really know what to expect plus this is my first car buying straight from dealer. ive had plenty of car since i saw 18 im 24 now all private sale from ppl. from 240s - rx7. and just didnt know what to expect from a dealer. appreciate it. and if anyone else had a different thing please tell me!:bow:

That's an awful price. My Whiteout with a bunch of options was a lot cheaper than what they want.

Lanbaldo3 02-09-2013 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowblind (Post 724033)
That's an awful price. My Whiteout with a bunch of options was a lot cheaper than what they want.

living in cali? what dealer? and how???

marky 02-09-2013 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanbaldo3 (Post 724025)
no b spoke and just white out. so im getting a good price? thanks very much ive been really stressed over it cause people have been saying im paying too much and im getting ripped off. so i dont really know what to expect plus this is my first car buying straight from dealer. ive had plenty of car since i saw 18 im 24 now all private sale from ppl. from 240s - rx7. and just didnt know what to expect from a dealer. appreciate it. and if anyone else had a different thing please tell me!:bow:

yeah try and find a different dealer see if you can get something lower..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowblind (Post 724033)
That's an awful price. My Whiteout with a bunch of options was a lot cheaper than what they want.

yeah bit high but i been trying to get one that i like and this was the only one they had so i just grabbed it:bonk: was more in my area but A/T .. suppose to get it one of my package lower due to i wanted to cancel my clear coating thing.. dealer called me and said it will call me back and see if they can..but never did:thumbdown: going to call them about it again..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanbaldo3 (Post 724039)
living in cali? what dealer? and how???

poway san diego.... stay away from there.. crappy service always put on hold and never call back..
still have to get my alarm set up called them they said to bring it in and dont need appointment when i got there they said i need appointment.. was of gas and time.. they offer me 5 car detail wash i said no thanks:mad0259: when i get time to go back i will just get my tints re worked/alarm set up and replace my HPFP and try not to go back there again/avoid it..

i know dealers like to make money and all but this place just care about money and not customers... same answers from everyone.. if your in SD go to lemon grove its nice over there.. plus my car i ordered just came in after like 2 weeks of getting mine in poway.. not sure if that car still there im sure someone yanked it already..

niceguy21 02-14-2013 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanbaldo3 (Post 723972)
hey im new here and just searching alot!!!!! and ive through alot of ppl saying they bought their frs way lower then my price. ok help me out guys. im getting an frs soon just got back from the dealer. from what ive gathered on this forum some ppl saying they bought it 25-28k but is that the total price over all??? cause mine came out to be 31,065 the cars "pure price is at 25,637 then 3k down payment then they said with the documentation fee , license reg ect, it came to 2,185. also theres more with totalk finance charge and there is a deffered price to. so what im tryna say is how much over all are you guys paying??? my rate is 3.64% living in CA let me add that there are no add ons

Looks like I got the same price man, and it looks like I got ripped off (30k) .... I tried to get a better deal by telling them that other People got there Frs`s for a cheaper price but the only way to work some thing out only if they can see someone else's contract (anyone who has lowered price than mine) to compare and lower the price on my contract, I honestly feel so stupid.... can anyone help me out (anyone who resides in Cali) by just providing my a copy of your contract as a reference...this may be my only way to reduce the price.

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