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Die$eL 09-12-2014 10:25 AM

What oil are you using?
 
I do not agree with the 15 000kms service intervals on the 86 and I plan on changing oil every 7500kms.

What oil are you guys using? Whats best?
I asked a buddy with a WRX and they seem to be using Liqui Moly

By the way, Toyota wants R117 per litre x 6

GeeTee86 09-13-2014 12:27 PM

LM get my vote. But while under warranty stock oil is what my car wil get.

Vic_RSA 09-13-2014 01:45 PM

LM for Subaru, but Toyota OE while under warranty. To date 44563km and no top-up necessary. 15k intervals. I would, however, recommend changing the air filter every 15k if not using washable and procure from Subaru dealer for price...

sav 09-13-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Die$eL (Post 1943733)
I asked a buddy with a WRX and they seem to be using Liqui Moly

He must not have gotten the memo - Motul Le Mans is the new LM. :D

Either way - OEM under warranty.

Die$eL 09-15-2014 05:49 AM

I agree and would like to use the OEM while under warranty. Problem is its crazy expensive!

Any idea how much Subaru charges for the oil?

Carlitoz3 09-15-2014 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Die$eL (Post 1947047)
I agree and would like to use the OEM while under warranty. Problem is its crazy expensive!

Any idea how much Subaru charges for the oil?

Seriously but I might give it a try since everyone raves about it.

sav 09-15-2014 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Die$eL (Post 1947047)
I agree and would like to use the OEM while under warranty. Problem is its crazy expensive!

Any idea how much Subaru charges for the oil?

Not sure but they are using Liqui Moly so it'll be cheaper from Autozone.

I would seriously not mess with it though, if something serious goes wrong and you don't have the Toyota approved oil in the engine it's going to hurt.

Die$eL 09-15-2014 07:09 AM

I asked the guy at the last service and he said its no prob if i want to do extra oil changes myself. He did not mention about what oil to use etc. though.

Either way, if something does go wrong, whats the chances they will test the oil and figure its not the OEM one?

sav 09-15-2014 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Die$eL (Post 1947068)
I asked the guy at the last service and he said its no prob if i want to do extra oil changes myself. He did not mention about what oil to use etc. though.

Either way, if something does go wrong, whats the chances they will test the oil and figure its not the OEM one?

If it's an engine failure then the chances are pretty good.

I wouldn't trust a mechie's opinion on anything warranty related.

Die$eL 09-15-2014 09:00 AM

cool
thanks sav

Freedom 09-16-2014 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Die$eL (Post 1947068)
I asked the guy at the last service and he said its no prob if i want to do extra oil changes myself. He did not mention about what oil to use etc. though.

Either way, if something does go wrong, whats the chances they will test the oil and figure its not the OEM one?


Do not do an oil change yourself if its under warranty. I have asked a service manager about the same thing. He said it is a nono!

I also wanted to do an early oil change. If you want an early oil change you must go to a toyota dealership.

Fish Eagle 09-16-2014 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Freedom (Post 1948558)
Do not do an oil change yourself if its under warranty. I have asked a service manager about the same thing. He said it is a nono!

I also wanted to do an early oil change. If you want an early oil change you must go to a toyota dealership.

Exactly this.

I change my engine oil every 7500 and my gearbox and diff oil every 15000 because I track my car, and it's supercharged.
I have my Toyota dealer do it, using Toyota OEM oils and filters, and I pay for whatever's outside the service plan.

They obviously know my car is S/C, and they also know that I'm a frequent track visitor, but I have a great relationship with them and they know that I'll never BS them to get a warranty claim when I don't deserve it, but equally so, if it's something that has nothing to do with my SC or tracking, then they know they must fix it or I'll rip their hearts out - LOL!!

African 09-17-2014 04:13 AM

Toyota does not make oil. So first mistake is to call it OEM oil. There is a spec on this oil ...... if you use the specified oil and that is not a brand BTW, loads of technical funny talk ...if you match or exceed that spec Toyota has no leg to stand on if there is a engine failure.


Toyota uses a fleet oil and I would not touch that crap with a pole. The same oil is used across various platforms ...... your 86 wasn't designed to spec ...it was built down to a price point.

Die$eL 09-17-2014 04:28 AM

the "OEM" oil (the one from toyota) on the bottle says its for diesel engines...

Wonder what the one from Subaru says?

Fish Eagle 09-17-2014 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Die$eL (Post 1949965)
the "OEM" oil (the one from toyota) on the bottle says its for diesel engines...

Wonder what the one from Subaru says?

It actually says it's for diesel engines and high-performance petrol engines.
It's fully synthetic, and out of the Toyota range it's only used for the 86.
It also has Rob Green's nod of approval, and he recommends using it post SC conversion.

sav 09-17-2014 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish Eagle (Post 1949974)
It actually says it's for diesel engines and high-performance petrol engines.
It's fully synthetic, and out of the Toyota range it's only used for the 86.
It also has Rob Green's nod of approval, and he recommends using it post SC conversion.

Correct. Always a good idea to make sure they're using the right stuff, one of the members here was sold single grade 30W top up oil. :iono:

Fish Eagle 09-17-2014 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sav (Post 1949992)
Correct. Always a good idea to make sure they're using the right stuff, one of the members here was sold single grade 30W top up oil. :iono:

EINA!! :(

If you're not familiar with it, this is what it should look like...

sav 09-17-2014 08:22 AM

That's the one!

I'd just like to know which Toyota specifically the 30W was for. Do they sell lawnmowers as well? :D

African 09-17-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish Eagle (Post 1950008)
EINA!! :(

If you're not familiar with it, this is what it should look like...


Could you give a break down of spec on bottle please sir!! Toyota makes cars ..... and 4x4's for overweight brandy swirling Sefricans .... rebottling an oil is just money for jam. Cheapest that makes spec sold at highest possible price. Dead give always is that for diesel and high performance petrol engines. BS!! It's a low spec compared to dedicated oils like Redline, Royal Purple to name two and there are many, many more.


If this is such a super oil ..where are the specs ...nobody can match them for sure?


And if such a great oil .... RGM uses Redline :D

sav 09-17-2014 12:14 PM

Fish_Eagle - don't forget to post SABS certificate plus qualifications and endorsements.

Fish Eagle 09-17-2014 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by African (Post 1950165)
Could you give a break down of spec on bottle please sir!! Toyota makes cars ..... and 4x4's for overweight brandy swirling Sefricans .... rebottling an oil is just money for jam. Cheapest that makes spec sold at highest possible price. Dead give always is that for diesel and high performance petrol engines. BS!! It's a low spec compared to dedicated oils like Redline, Royal Purple to name two and there are many, many more.

If this is such a super oil ..where are the specs ...nobody can match them for sure?

And if such a great oil .... RGM uses Redline :D

Wow, if I wanted to talk to a pr1ck, I'd talk to my own.

I'm out of this thread, I've got better things to do... :D

GeeTee86 09-17-2014 02:15 PM

Royal pos and red crap has the worse viscosity ratio at high temp. Even worse than castrol

sav 09-17-2014 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish Eagle (Post 1950247)
Wow, if I wanted to talk to a pr1ck, I'd talk to my own.

I'm out of this thread, I've got better things to do... :D

Nice one Fish_Eagle - somebody had to say it, may as well have been the wisest one here.

It's a small community, being an utter prick in pretty much every single thread is not going to make him any friends. I think we've all been holding back because we're trying to be nice, but we've all been thinking it so screw this...

sav 09-17-2014 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GeeTee86 (Post 1950424)
Royal pos and red crap has the worse viscosity ratio at high temp. Even worse than castrol

Were the machines ISO calibrated and can you produce the certificates? You know this guy is going to ask for them. :bonk:

CWP68 09-18-2014 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by African (Post 1950165)
And if such a great oil .... RGM uses Redline :D

RGM use Indy

sav 09-18-2014 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CWP68 (Post 1951379)
RGM use Indy

:popcorn:

Die$eL 09-18-2014 03:34 AM

RGM uses Helios

Sorry, I just had put my 2c...

:bonk:

Fish Eagle 09-18-2014 04:00 AM

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sav 09-18-2014 04:15 AM

Can of the best! Please post specifications and certifications though.

Alang 09-18-2014 04:21 AM

Geez you guys can talk a lot of crap!
Get your facts right before you comment!
The fact is. RGM doesn't use oil. They build to such tight tolerances that oil wouldn't be able to flow.
The only thing that has the perfect viscosity is the blood of baby bunnies!

Fish Eagle 09-18-2014 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sav (Post 1951469)
Can of the best! Please post specifications and certifications though.

DONE!! http://www.unityfood.co.za/oil.htm

Freedom 09-18-2014 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish Eagle (Post 1951472)


On my way to RGM to get this oil. Looks fantastic! Check those numbers!

:bow: :lol: :popcorn:

Had to add my drop of oil to the pot.

FT_86_SM_GP 09-18-2014 05:15 AM

Guys on a serious note, I use Moroccan oil on my hair this morning. Second day I'm using it. Not sure about the viscosity ratio at high temperatures, havnt gone out in the sun as yet... Will let yourl know, Im not sure what oil RGM uses on their heads. Could be umla oil as well

CWP68 09-18-2014 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Die$eL (Post 1951432)
RGM uses Helios

Sorry, I just had put my 2c...

:bonk:

Don't be silly, everyone knows peanut oil has better heat tolerance


--------------------------------------------------------------
TEST METHOD RANGE
Specific gravity @ 25øC USP 0.912-0.920
Iodine value USP 84 - 100
Saponification value USP 185 - 195
Free fatty acids USP < 2.0 mL of
0.02 N NaOH
Cottonseed oil USP absent
Refractive index @ 40øC USP 1.462-1.464
Heavy metals, Method II USP 0.001% max
Rancidity USP passes
Solidification range of F/A USP 26ø - 30ø
Unsaponifiable matter USP < 1.5%
--------------------------------------------------------------
Color Gardner AOCS Td la-64 4 max
Appearance Pale yellow, bright & clear
oily liquid
Flavor and odor Bland, almost odorless
TYPICAL FATTY ACID COMPOSITION (%)
C14:0 < 0.2 C18:3 < 2.0
C16:0 6 - 15.5 C20:0 1 - 2.5
C16:1 < 1.0 C20:1 0.5 - 2.1
C18:0 1.3 - 6.5 C20:4 1 - 2.5
C18:1 36 - 72 C22:0 1.5 - 4.8
C18:2 13 - 45 C24:0 1.0 - 2.5

I thank you
CWP 68 BSc (Hons) Phd MAusIMM FGSSA

sav 09-18-2014 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish Eagle (Post 1951472)

No rancid odor - perfect!

Alang 09-18-2014 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FT_86_SM_GP (Post 1951487)
Guys on a serious note, I use Moroccan oil on my hair this morning. Second day I'm using it. Not sure about the viscosity ratio at high temperatures, havnt gone out in the sun as yet... Will let yourl know, Im not sure what oil RGM uses on their heads. Could be umla oil as well

There ya go, you can thank me later.

http://womenshair.about.com/od/produ...-Hair-Oils.htm

Vic_RSA 09-18-2014 06:04 AM

I just use the oil that has been treated specially by making :popcorn:... :laughabove:

Die$eL 09-18-2014 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Alang (Post 1951511)
There ya go, you can thank me later.

http://womenshair.about.com/od/produ...-Hair-Oils.htm

Is the "Moroccanoil" the one extracted from the pee of the Moroccan tree frog? :lol:

Alang 09-18-2014 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Die$eL (Post 1951520)
Is the "Moroccanoil" the one extracted from the pee of the Moroccan tree frog? :lol:

Who knows but it's only $27.99 for 8.5oz so it's pretty much cheaper than Toyota or Subaru oil anyway. :)

WesleyG 09-18-2014 06:56 AM

im lost, how did this end up as a thread making fun of RGM?


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