Report: Toyota FT-86 Sedan Version Coming
 

There's a report coming out of carsguide.com.au that a sedan version of the FT-86 has also been given the green light. The reasoning behind this move is to act as an insurance policy to cover potential shortfalls in FT-86 coupe sales. No specific source was named other than a "source close to Toyota."

This does make some sense to us as the platform, powertrain, and mechanicals from the FT-86 would be already developed and easily adapted to a sedan model based on the same, which can potentially increase overall sales for Toyota based off of just one platform.


Per Carsguide:

2013? Hybrid? haven't those "rumours" been proven to be just that, rumours?

I don't mind the idea of a sedan, I'll be rolling in the coupe hands down, but a lot of that info is just repeat bullshit we've heard time and time again, and some of it is just baseless speculation. H6? Since when?

I guess we'll see... but I'm not convinced any of this is true, except the possibility of a FT/FR-86/S Sedan.

Anything but not FT86 please. Toyota can lengthens the platform and gives a four door different name, but not FT-86 sedan. New sedan with FT-86's platform powered by H6 would be more ideal. my .02.

Great news, it could be an exciting car for 5 ! Or 4 at less...But one thing, the future model will be the 86, not the FT-86....

Old rumorfactory BS aside this makes sense, from a sales point of view. I personally will not touch the Sedan version of this car, I will only own coupe's or hatch, and if a sedan is the only option that will greatly deter me from buying the car. I only hope they don't compromise stuff on the coupe to accommodate the sedan.

hmmm...i guess it would be like what hyundai did with the genesis by offering both a sedan and a coupe; 2013!! i couldn't wait that long.

are you sure? prove me.... ;)

Interesting. Altezza v2.0?

How would Subaru feel about this though?

Calling BS on this. "Insider" information has proved to be crap thus far.

Also, that render is pretty fkn horrible.

that rendering makes me think this has porsche panamera-fugly written all over it.

however, i would make an exception if their efforts results in something similar to what aston martin did with their astonishing rapide 4-door.

but overall. i wish toyota would stop dragging their asses, worry less about the bottom line and just spend the money to give us a good product that isn't the result of penny pinching (has anyone seen the dashboard of a toyota venza lately? the fit/finish is absolute crap), and so many buyers will be flocking to their showrooms they won't have enough capacity to keep up with demand.

anyway, that's my vision of a perfect little world... please hurry up toyota. my current car is falling to pieces and i can't hold out any longer, or else a hyundai genesis or a ford mustang will be in my future.

If this rumor is true, it has higher chance of having AWD in sedan ver later on (like G35). Or even Subaru might make sedan ver AWD

Haha, you know what I just noticed, the reflection of the lights don't line up on the doors.

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Also, I doubt subaru would come out with a sedan of this even if toyota did. What would be the point? It would pretty much be a legacy. Most likely in NA we're going to be using the same 2.5L boxer engine that they use over here anyways.

also the door jambs dont line up and the flute in the body thats around the door is cut off. the window tint is farked.. like i said MS paint

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet but the source is confusing the small compact Impreza platform(albeit modified) the FT86 sits on and the larger mid-size Legacy/Liberty(in Australia) with stuff like the CVT which is only on larger mid-size and up vehicles. Also even if they do strech the platform with the already small engine space(one of the main reasons they are using the Subaru boxer) how do they expect to fit the bigger H6 in there without messing up the weight or ratio of weight? I really don't trust this source.

Hmm...I don't know, I mean the Altezza(Lexus IS) was killed when Toyota started to sell Lexus in Japan, right? Now they want to make it a compact while the IS is playing in the mid size sedans segment. Something tells me that if this sedan will really be produced, it will wear the Lexus badge, outside Japan, once again. Still I believe that making a Lexus small coupe based on the FT-86 that will go against BMW Z4, Audi TT, Mercedes SLK or Porsche Cayman will be a better safety net then this.

its like theyve searched the net and found all the rumors, gone hmm what can we do to spice things up and decided to write this. it makes sense though and the FR-S badge could well be for this car FR-S(Sedan)???

Dosent Toyota Practically own Subaru though? Subaru wont be happy but they wont have a say in it either way. kind of a put up or shut up sort of situation.

Since the coupe is sitting on a revised legacy platform couldnt they just sit the sedan on a standard legacy platform with rwd and the H6 would then fit and the weight wouldnt be messd with all that much?

I guess well see in the future if there is a concept model to be seen

If they want to do a 4-door style, maybe do what mazda did with there RX-7. 4 doors yes, but you only see 2. I can deal with that.

hmmm...did you know they have also partnered with Bugatti and now they are making a quad-turbo version. It can also be driven underwater for those who have been wondering.

Well i dont like the idea of a 4 door at its current look. If this rumor holds up, i'll need to look at it in production form based off the coupe first. I can see why they would and if they went ahead and made it a hatch it would follow suit with all the other car manufactures that are producing coupe sedans like Audi, BMW, and Mercedes. But i think it will look weird. All those coupe sedans are larger cars.

Unless they change it for the production model all signs from what we know say the FT-86 Concept Car at least sits on a modified Impreza platform and not the Legacy platform. Sorry for any confusion.

you mean rx-8:clap:

Actually, my first thought was; "Woah, an international JZX platform?!?!!!1?" :happyanim: Man, that would be killer. I'd snatch one of those up in a heartbeat. :wub:

And yes, the image is just photoshop crap to go with the article. No need to get bent out of shape about it guys. :)

i don't believe a word of it.

I sure hope this is just a rumor or a bunch of b/s. Adding a sedan version would water down the idea of this car being a pure sports car. :bs::thumbdown:

setting aside the fact that the story is pure rumor, a sedan version does make sense. theres a thread on this forum about alternate body styles/derivations, and a 4-door wasnt mentioned. it makes as much sense as a convertible, IMHO. if it doesnt cost that much more to develop the 4-door version, you get more return on investment in this platform.

i could see subaru supporting this, oddly. RWD would expand their sporty image (WRX, STi) and boost sunny weather sales. sorta budget-BMW product line.

I wish they would subtract 2 seats instead of adding 2 doors. :(

Possible design of the sedan? :)

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/image...b1bce/340x.jpg

All still rumors ... but this isn't a bad looking concept imho. Actually, it almost looks like a mini Rapide.

hmmm.......NO!!!! :thumbdown::bs:

R32/R33/R34..S15..

I don't think those got watered down. Ultimately its made up anyway, so nothing to worry about.

If this were true, I can forsee one potential benefit of having a sedan with H6 as long as Subaru stamps one as well. Possibility of a factory turbo on a 2.8-3.3L H6? Could make for a very interesting aftermarket build with a strong enough block.

Wait what? S15 made a sedan? Just making sure we're on same page. We're talking bout Nissan Silvia S15 right? I know bout the Convertible... but never knew bout the Sedan.

Hm... I agree w H6, but I highly doubt on 2.8 Liters. Prob looking around 3~3.6 Liters

You didn't see any of the MR2 and Supras made into Sedans. From the markting standpoint, I see how they would introduce a sedan varient but I'm not for it. Might as well make a wagon model too! :thumbdown:

There are some Nissan sedans but never made it state side

http://speedhunters.com/archive/2008...an-sedans.aspx

Thanks but did you see S15 sedan in that site? iirc they made coupe & convertible only and Silvia series were only available in coupe, hatch & convertible. Yeah other Nissan FR cars did make sedans, but not Silvia. ;)

when i lived in new zealand i had a R33 Skyline 4-dr 2.5GTS. good car, def doesnt take away from the coupe or the GTR. sometimes the more pedestrian variants are a necessary evil so you can get the badass one you want.

i dont wish for an H6 sedan, H4 turbo is just fine w/ me. Weight balance becomes an issue when you cram a 6 where 6 doesnt belong, like the newest Acura TSX.

the sedan pic is definately shopped.
rear doors have identical reflections as the front. doesn't match the rear 1/4 panel at all.
also it's unlikely you'd have the forward protruding metal in front of the rear door hinges (at the bottom) unless the hinges were in front of the front door's catch.
the ae86 never had a 4door version. that was a different platform called ae82

That's not true. Some ppl who have done H6 swap into their Impreza stated that taking off AC and relocate the battery will fix that problem

While EZ30D & R is shorter & a lot lighter than EG33, so that fix that problem.

Chaser, Altezza and Aristo were as close to Supra sedans as Toyota ever did. If the difference between the FT/R-86/S and the sedan is that big, then no need to worry.

I would welcome it, actually. (If I could've found a 1JZGTE Chaser for the price of my Legacy, I would've bought it for my daily as a nice match for the Supra.)

As for someone saying Toyota owns most of Subaru I think it's actually less than 20%.

Chaser are awesome (specially last gen). Mark series are awesome too... but recent Mark series been ugly (like Mark X).