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mokinbird87 09-09-2014 10:13 PM

window seal deforming
 
this isnt supposed to happen is it? Subaru wont cover it as I hit 36k miles and I do not have extended warranty... :iono: it`s $200 including labor btw...

video to come later.

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Burrcold 09-09-2014 10:17 PM

Had the same thing. Luckily I am still under warranty and had both sides replaced. They've been perfect for almost a year now.

extrashaky 09-09-2014 10:20 PM

Known issue. The easy/cheap solution seems to be to Armorall the seals once a week to lube them up so they don't stick to the window.

gramicci101 09-09-2014 10:23 PM

Does that not leave armorall smeared on the window?

Sigh-on-Rice 09-09-2014 10:33 PM

For FR-S, there is a TSB for this.

This happened to me also and mine was fixed under warranty. Putting oil didn't help for me because the rubber was already deformed.

mokinbird87 09-09-2014 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice (Post 1940101)
For FR-S, there is a TSB for this.

This happened to me also and mine was fixed under warranty. Putting oil didn't help for me because the rubber was already deformed.

thank you so much. I`m gonna take this to the dealership and see what they say.

mokinbird87 09-10-2014 12:00 AM

damn it looks like even on the TSB it specifically states "up to 36k miles" :(

extrashaky 09-10-2014 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 1940081)
Does that not leave armorall smeared on the window?

Dunno. I haven't done it. I wouldn't think so unless you overdo it.

But even if it does, wouldn't that be better than a pinched window seal?

WNDSRFR 09-10-2014 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 1940081)
Does that not leave armorall smeared on the window?

No it doesn't. And it works great so long as your seal isn't already in too bad a shape.

philstar 09-10-2014 10:13 AM

the TSB i believe does not apply to this seal, but to the outer seal at the bottom of the window.

Annahra 09-10-2014 10:51 AM

I had this same issue on my first BRZ. It was pretty early on, though--maybe 10K miles. Dealer replaced it, no problem. Try a different dealer and act super nice?

aznatama 09-10-2014 11:21 AM

Know anyone w/ a BRZ in your area that still has his car under warranty? swap seals with him...

AsianStyle 09-10-2014 02:12 PM

Anyone who got this done by the dealer, how long did they keep the car for?

AznBRZer 09-10-2014 02:17 PM

If it really bugs you, you can fix it yourself for $100, which is the cost of the part.

https://www.partswebsite.com/subarug...imagecallout=4

AznBRZer 09-10-2014 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianStyle (Post 1941000)
Anyone who got this done by the dealer, how long did they keep the car for?

It takes 5 minutes to do. Rip out the old one and reattach with 2 push clips.

As to how long they'll keep your car to do it, well, that's upto the dealer.

automatic 09-10-2014 02:33 PM

This happened on my BRZ at around 10k kms...Got it replaced under warranty and now its starting to happen again at 52k kms.

I notice it gets a lot worse after it rains because the seal starts sticking to the window.

zc06_kisstherain 09-10-2014 02:44 PM

mine looks still fine since i only have less than 10K mileage.
I always park under the sun too so it might slow it down. i always leave window open little to ventilate hot air so it minimize the issue too. i guess there won't be permanent fix except keep replacing rubber part. hoping that some 3rd party makes rubber parts cheap.

Sigh-on-Rice 09-10-2014 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mokinbird87 (Post 1940202)
thank you so much. I`m gonna take this to the dealership and see what they say.

But the document clearly mentions about 36k miles, which you already passed. I'm pretty sure yours won't be covered under warranty.

Quote:

This repair is covered under the Toyota Basic Warranty. This warranty is in effect for 36 months or 36,000 miles, whichever occurs first, from the vehicle’s in-service date.

Tt3Sheppard 09-10-2014 03:40 PM

Mine has been like that for awhile now. Only leaks during the touch less car wash but that's most likely due to the high pressure wash.

mokinbird87 09-10-2014 04:05 PM

It`s not a difficult fix but it`s really annoying that my new car has problems like this... I had my bugeye for 200k miles and had less problems :(

it should be a recall if people have problems like this... it wont be worth getting the new seal as it`ll have the same issue as it ages..

Sigh-on-Rice 09-10-2014 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mokinbird87 (Post 1941176)
it wont be worth getting the new seal as it`ll have the same issue as it ages..

The TSB says:
Quote:

The cross section of the weatherstrip has been revised
I believe it means the seal is revised to prevent the same problem from happening again.

AllDayJonRay 09-10-2014 04:48 PM

As was pointed out, the TSB is for the seal that attached to the outside top of the door. It is a revision to limit the amount of water that passes between the window and the seal into the door frame.

It TSB does not apply to this issue.

Sigh-on-Rice 09-10-2014 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllDayJonRay (Post 1941249)
As was pointed out, the TSB is for the seal that attached to the outside top of the door. It is a revision to limit the amount of water that passes between the window and the seal into the door frame.

It TSB does not apply to this issue.

Duh! You're right. It's actually is for the weatherstrip on the door. Not the one attached to the body of the car. :slap:

mokinbird87 09-10-2014 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice (Post 1941187)
The TSB says:

I believe it means the seal is revised to prevent the same problem from happening again.

ah good catch. thanks!

mokinbird87 09-10-2014 05:32 PM

oh so not the rubber part on the body of the car eh... so no revision on the part i need replaced...

Annahra 09-10-2014 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianStyle (Post 1941000)
Anyone who got this done by the dealer, how long did they keep the car for?

They did it when I got my next oil change. The new one was still good about 26K later.

AsianStyle 09-10-2014 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Annahra (Post 1941419)
They did it when I got my next oil change. The new one was still good about 26K later.

I guess they use the same molding, so it is just a matter of time before it happens again. I will just use something to keep it lubricated.

86•BRZ 09-11-2014 04:07 AM

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AllDayJonRay 09-11-2014 08:57 AM

I'd much prefer not adjusting the pressure between the window and the seal, as this pressure is a part of the design to minimize wind noise and water entry. It is very possible to create additional problems rather than resolving the original problem.

It would be best if the window glass simply slid by the seal during closure/roll up, as it was designed.


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aznatama 09-11-2014 09:29 AM

Anyone thought about using dry lube or polishing the glass? I haven't run into this problem yet, but I almost never roll down my windows...

kodyo 09-11-2014 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aznatama (Post 1942185)
Anyone thought about using dry lube or polishing the glass? I haven't run into this problem yet, but I almost never roll down my windows...

Tried a few different lubricants with little success.

mokinbird87 10-31-2014 02:27 PM

wind noise is a lot more apparent now... guess it`s a matter of time before water starts to make its way in... i`m really pissed off about this. my bugeye with its original window seal for 200k miles never had issues like this.

zc06_kisstherain 10-31-2014 03:00 PM

honda lubricate on seal. LUB Time!

navanodd 10-31-2014 05:14 PM

My Halifax dealer sprayed silicone on my seals and gave me the rest of the can to do some more applications and it seems to have worked. Looks like I caught it before the seal got too raw. Once the dealer silicone is gone I'm going to pick up some Honda Shin-Etsu and apply regularly.


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