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Ryanrsa 09-08-2014 05:41 AM

Turbo Conversion
 
Hi

im new to the forum and 86 world :)

im looking for the best quality and priced turbo conversion around joburg. anybody know where i should go?

looking for about 500bhp like with Crawford conversion. http://www.crawfordperformance.com/

sav 09-08-2014 11:44 AM

Hi

Not sure about Joburg but Clare Vale's recently had a pretty mean turbo conversion done. 500HP like Crawford's is going to involve internals as well. Maybe speak to Jan at Auto Sound Engineering.

Suddenly... 09-08-2014 12:58 PM

I agree with Sav. There is a thread somewhere about the total cost of the Crawford conversion including all the internal and drive train parts they had to replace. It came to a lot (around 26k $ is a remember correctly). If you don't have too big an issue with importing, there are 3 companies state-side that do built bottom ends. @FullBlownmotorsports are probably the best to speak to if that is the kind of power you are after as they offer a lot of different packages for the car. Hope this helps. With 500hp this car will be an absolute rocket

Don86 09-08-2014 01:50 PM

Hi guys

I got a quote from Auto Sound Engineering 65K for turbo-kit.
No internal changes on 0.6 bar boost . They say your looking at 180 wkw .

sav 09-08-2014 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don86 (Post 1937001)
Hi guys

I got a quote from Auto Sound Engineering 65K for turbo-kit.
No internal changes on 0.6 bar boost . They say your looking at 180 wkw .

Hi

Yep, big power = big money.

Don86 09-08-2014 02:10 PM

I waiting for the Full Blown Motorsport Stage 2 kit pricing (with importing costs included.)

Don86 09-08-2014 02:14 PM

O ja and on a set of 18inch ROTA RKR wheels.

sav 09-08-2014 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Don86 (Post 1937044)
I waiting for the Full Blown Motorsport Stage 2 kit pricing (with importing costs included.)

Cool. Customs is pretty much raping us on imported parts these days - worked out to 50% on a simple cooler the other day.

I suspect a 2JZ transplant might work out cheaper.

Don86 09-08-2014 02:41 PM

Haha sav you might be right
My KIT will come in via a tuning shop .

CWP68 09-09-2014 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Don86 (Post 1937050)
O ja and on a set of 18inch ROTA RKR wheels.

Where are getting the ROTA wheels from? I've finally found a set that I like.

CWP68 09-09-2014 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sav (Post 1936820)
Hi

Not sure about Joburg but Clare Vale's recently had a pretty mean turbo conversion done. 500HP like Crawford's is going to involve internals as well.

And it ain't running on pump 95

sav 09-09-2014 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CWP68 (Post 1938360)
And it ain't running on pump 95

Yep, not going to make those sort of figures on pump fuel.

Ryanrsa 09-09-2014 09:15 AM

might just have to wait for and mod this. i like the awd.

http://www.motoring.com.au/news/spor...wd-turbo-45930

Fish Eagle 09-09-2014 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryanrsa (Post 1938497)
might just have to wait for and mod this. i like the awd.
http://www.motoring.com.au/news/spor...wd-turbo-45930

Oh come on...
If you want big power, you're starting with the wrong car, and totally missing the point of an 86.
If you want a breakdancer, get a breakdancer, don't try to make a ballerina into a breakdancer...
Not gonna work IMO.

Die$eL 09-09-2014 09:46 AM

I agree with Fish Eagle 100%

Oh, and rumor has it that Toyo will be releasing a 2L Turbo RWD hatch
I assume thats where the rumors of the AWD Turbo 86 are coming from...

Ryanrsa 09-09-2014 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish Eagle (Post 1938509)
Oh come on...
If you want big power, you're starting with the wrong car, and totally missing the point of an 86.
If you want a breakdancer, get a breakdancer, don't try to make a ballerina into a breakdancer...
Not gonna work IMO.

the guys over at crawford will strongly disagree with you. guys testing it on the youtube video mentioned couple times what great car it was after the conversion with the 450bhp. did not lose any of its character and was just better in every regard.

think you can get close to 500 on normal pump fuel. audi is doing it with a 2.0 production car.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Se...cial-pictures/

Fish Eagle 09-09-2014 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryanrsa (Post 1938543)
the guys over at crawford will strongly disagree with you.

Of course they will - they're selling OTT turbo kits to gullible horsepower junkies. :bonk:

Anyway, I don't want to argue with you or anyone.
Just trying to warn you that you could be making a very expensive mistake...

Ryanrsa 09-09-2014 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish Eagle (Post 1938562)
Of course they will - they're selling OTT turbo kits to gullible horsepower junkies. :bonk:

Anyway, I don't want to argue with you or anyone.
Just trying to warn you that you could be making a very expensive mistake...

The guys who tested it do not work for Crawford, and no im not arguing :) some guys like blonds and others like brunettes. Nothing wrong with that!

I personally would like it because I think it would make a great vehicle with the low GOC and balance. Probably control the power better than most cars around a track.

Anyhow phoned around a lot and there are not many people around who can take on a project like this, so I might actually just have to wait for the 2.5 AWD and then try get a bit more out of it.

thanks for the tips and advice. :)

CWP68 09-09-2014 10:39 AM

"A cast alloy cylinder crankcase, revised turbocharger, new aluminium pistons and an ultra-high-strength forged steel crankshaft help produce (and cope) with the increase outputs."

That's the sort of things you'll need to do to stop your engine blowing up.

Td-d 09-09-2014 10:50 AM

I'm with Fish Eagle on this one - the question is not whether it can be done - any platform can be made to produce stupid amounts of power (as an example, a Greek shop CNC'd large parts of an Evo engine from titanium. Made stupid amounts of power, > 1400whp. Cost a stupid amount too).

On that article, bs - those articles are dime a dozen. And the fact that the new released facts from Subaru on the STI's reveals that they will be the 2.0DI engine - I believe it is finally the end of the line for EJ257.

Understand this truth about high power modification. Power, Cost, Reliability. Pick two. And when you exceed stock power massively, you might as well forget about the last one. I speak from experience here running a 320wkw STI, soon to be 450wkw plus - at those power levels, the car moves well beyond a daily driver.

On Crawford, meh. Quirt talks a good game, and yes they do build great engines (on the whole) - but there are other shops, especially in the States, that will do as good or better a job, that will cost significantly less. You're paying heavily for brand.


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