Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB

Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/index.php)
-   BRZ First-Gen (2012+) — General Topics (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=23)
-   -   They see me rollin', they hatin' (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73618)

Martinius 09-05-2014 08:48 PM

They see me rollin', they hatin'
 
Has your twin gotten you in trouble with the 5-0? I got off with a warning (due to my clear record) for being way over the suggested speed limit on the on and off ramp recently. It was my first time getting in trouble with the law and it wasn't pleasant at all. :bonk:. This car just goads you into driving a little too quick sometimes.

stugray 09-05-2014 08:58 PM

By "suggested speed limit" do you mean the yellow signs?

I dont believe they can do anything about that as long as you dont exceed the speed limit of the road you are approaching, OR unless you are squealing tires (show of speed/reckless driving).

@Art_Mighty 09-05-2014 09:02 PM

invest...

https://store.valentine1.com/store/i...15_closeup.png

Martinius 09-05-2014 09:03 PM

yes Stugray, the officer was on the highway when I merged 30m in front of him and I had a good speed built up (120km/h, and that usually fine), I guess it just seemed to him that I was gunning it. He followed me to the next exit when I exited at a good rate of speed, and then just took his time before he pulled me over. He didn't clock me on the highway according to him, so I guess he couldn't give me a ticket.

drewbot 09-05-2014 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @Art_Mighty (Post 1933969)

Illegal in the Province of Ontario...

Martinius 09-05-2014 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @Art_Mighty (Post 1933969)

haha, thanks for the tip, but it's illegal in Ontario, and this was just an isolated incident really, the BRZ got the better of me and I gave into the temptation.

@Art_Mighty 09-05-2014 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewbot (Post 1933972)
Illegal in the Province of Ontario...

Bum deal. A V1 along with a sharp set of eyes have gotten me far.

@Art_Mighty 09-05-2014 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martinius (Post 1933949)
Has your twin gotten you in trouble with the 5-0? I got off with a warning (due to my clear record) for being way over the suggested speed limit on the on and off ramp recently. It was my first time getting in trouble with the law and it wasn't pleasant at all. :bonk:. This car just goads you into driving a little too quick sometimes.

What's the color?

Martinius 09-05-2014 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @Art_Mighty (Post 1933982)
What's the color?

WRB, it was night time though.

mav1178 09-05-2014 09:30 PM

Grand Theft Auto, I mean Toronto problems.

dbrandt01 09-05-2014 10:06 PM

Luckily no hate, but I've gotten thumbs up and "nice car" comments from sheriff's when I ride with the windows down.

radroach 09-05-2014 11:27 PM

Oh the yellow signs. I got followed all the way back home down the highway by a patrolman, I followed every single suggested yellow sign all the way back, intersections 20 mph. Just rolling through.

Granted I was exploring what I thought were backroads, well they weren't.

radroach 09-05-2014 11:31 PM

I can say that every ticket I got I deserved within the first six months of ownership. After that I've slowed down considerably in the city, because cops were saying things like "I thought you were trying to run" or "Does that thing have a turbo?" or "I was wondering why you did that uturn in the dirt and came flying out at 62mph" or the CHP officer "way too fast" after he caught up to me like an hour later.

The last ticket I got, bullshit. I was speeding past a Ford Bronco driver, but it was a 4 lane empty commuter road at 9pm. Too enticing. I was blaring Dead Presidents out the window when they had me. Now my insurance is a wallop every month. So, I slowed down by a lot this year, but now with all my road knowledge I know how to take corners in my city at what shouldn't be legal speeds, but I haven't gotten a ticket in a year so I'm doing good!

DavidBob 09-05-2014 11:40 PM

Got stopped a week ago at night because I flashed my lights at a car that had theyre highbeams on and was blinding me (turned out to be a cop) and got a ticket for it... And since I'm only on my permit I now how to go to court with the person I was driving in the car with (legal guardian over 21) and might have my license pushed back.... :'( been counting down the days for 4 years and now might have to wait longer :(

litemup 09-05-2014 11:45 PM

Save it for the track. Get your ya-yas out so you know what this car can really do, then bask in the cool of knowing what you could do.

...should circumstances ever require.

HeadBanger 09-06-2014 07:21 AM

I had no clue radar detectors were illegal here in Ontario.


To be honest he sounds like a good cop just doing his job to keep his community safe.

Martinius 09-06-2014 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeadBanger (Post 1934402)
I had no clue radar detectors were illegal here in Ontario.


To be honest he sounds like a good cop just doing his job to keep his community safe.

He was a nice guy (OPP btw), gave me a bit of hard time in the beginning as he rightfully should, I'm just glad he was cool enough to let me go with a warning. He even suggested the track instead lol. Next summer for sure.

Laika 09-06-2014 12:34 PM

I saw a mustang racing a corvette so I decided to try and get a better look...by following the vette. Long story short, there was an officer of the law nearby, the mustang ran a light and got away while the gentleman in the corvette got pulled over...and the officer felt the need to ticket me as well....

http://i.imgur.com/8rL3pHt.jpg

dtrop 09-06-2014 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laika (Post 1934503)
I saw a mustang racing a corvette so I decided to try and get a better look...by following the vette. Long story short, there was an officer of the law nearby, the mustang ran a light and got away while the gentleman in the corvette got pulled over...and the officer felt the need to ticket me as well....

http://i.imgur.com/8rL3pHt.jpg


Boy this just reminds me of horrible bosses

You should have just been like, "officer, this car can't keep up with a mustang or vette, why would I be racing?


I got a ticket last month for 80mph in a 55. It was deserved since there was barely any cars on the highway and I couldn't blend in with anyone around me.

Turbowned 09-06-2014 12:45 PM

So far so good, but I have gotten toll tickets for being stupid and not carrying cash, and for "blocking" the street during street sweeping day (the one day I decide to park on the street at my g/f's apt), and a ticket for blowing a stop sign... it's called a California roll, officer, stop being a square!

Laika 09-06-2014 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtrop (Post 1934516)
Boy this just reminds me of horrible bosses

You should have just been like, "officer, this car can't keep up with a mustang or vette, why would I be racing?


I got a ticket last month for 80mph in a 55. It was deserved since there was barely any cars on the highway and I couldn't blend in with anyone around me.

The officer did actually ask if I knew the corvette driver and if we were racing. After a brief laugh I told him the car has, at best, half the power of either of those on a good day. After that he dropped any talk of "street racing". Wait...should I be offended? :paddle:

extrashaky 09-06-2014 01:27 PM

I got pulled over by an asshole Texas state trooper who said he clocked me at 85 in a 75. The problem was that I was behind another car that was going 74 the entire time. I asked to see the radar. At first the asshole state trooper refused. Then the asshole state trooper showed me a laser that just said, "BR 16" in the readout.

I said, "This doesn't have a speed on it. You didn't clock me with that."

The asshole state trooper said, "You were in a group of cars going 85. I clocked the whole group."

"That's bullshit," I said.

He said, "Tell it to the judge."

So my choice was to drive eight hours back to Texas to go to court to fight it, spend money on a hotel and gas and probably still end up losing, or pay $175. That fucker knew I wouldn't fight it. The asshole Texas state trooper probably had a quota to fill, saw a red sports car and decided I needed a ticket.

And cops wonder why people hate them. If so many of them weren't just outright miserable pieces of shit, they would get along so much better with the people they're supposed to be "protecting."

unsurety 09-06-2014 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 1934560)
I got pulled over by an asshole Texas state trooper who said he clocked me at 85 in a 75. The problem was that I was behind another car that was going 74 the entire time. I asked to see the radar. At first the asshole state trooper refused. Then the asshole state trooper showed me a laser that just said, "BR 16" in the readout.

I said, "This doesn't have a speed on it. You didn't clock me with that."

The asshole state trooper said, "You were in a group of cars going 85. I clocked the whole group."

"That's bullshit," I said.

He said, "Tell it to the judge."

So my choice was to drive eight hours back to Texas to go to court to fight it, spend money on a hotel and gas and probably still end up losing, or pay $175. That fucker knew I wouldn't fight it. The asshole Texas state trooper probably had a quota to fill, saw a red sports car and decided I needed a ticket.

And cops wonder why people hate them. If so many of them weren't just outright miserable pieces of shit, they would get along so much better with the people they're supposed to be "protecting."

You had to drive all the way out there to that specific court to fight it?

Like any profession, not all cops are jerks. It's mostly the traffic/highway patrol guys. Their job is literally enforce traffic laws, which inevitably means writing tickets.

x1UP 09-06-2014 07:25 PM

I once had an undercover police car follow me literally after going 40mph in a 30mph zone. I immediately cruised at around 35, but the duo still followed me. Switched lanes and they would switch with me.

Always behind my back. Then, finally, I decided to take the bridge into the city and they stopped following me at the entrance.

It was at night time too...

extrashaky 09-07-2014 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unsurety (Post 1934623)
You had to drive all the way out there to that specific court to fight it?

You're probably suggesting a change of venue. Even if that were possible, I would still have had to drive to Texas. I do not live in Texas.

Quote:

Originally Posted by unsurety (Post 1934623)
Like any profession, not all cops are jerks.

Not all rattlesnakes want to kill people. Do you want them in your yard?

I worked around cops for ten years in television news, and we had to try to maintain a good relationship with them to be able to do our jobs. So there was a lot of apologizing on their behalf. And yet, again and again we saw where they would lie on incident reports when we had video that directly contradicted what they said happened. We covered cases where they would accuse someone of something when evidence existed that proved they didn't do it. I personally witnessed them escalate situations where they should have been attempting to calm people down. I have been personally threatened with arrest on multiple occasions for shooting video of police in action, in direct violation of the First Amendment of the Constitution those assholes swore to defend and uphold.

Now we have video after video on YouTube catching cops at this crap they've been getting away with for years. Sure, not all cops are inherently bad people, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that there is a problem in recruiting, training and management of police in the United States. Because of the power they wield, all of them should be considered dangerous because you have no way of knowing when the cop pulls you over whether he's a lying piece of shit. Is it any wonder they're so resistant to wearing body cameras? They're afraid of getting caught in criminal activity that, right now, is normal for them.

I went pretty much invisible for years in my Jeep. I ended up getting hit twice by idiots, so when I got my BRZ I opted for the most visible color I could imagine. The Lightning Red has helped keep me out of accidents, but it has also made me a magnet for asshole cops who do shit like pull out behind me and ride my bumper when I have done absolutely nothing to attract their attention other than buy a hot car. I had a cop hit me with a laser, look at it with disbelief when he saw I wasn't speeding, and hit me again with it. I've had cops pass me, turn around behind me and hit me with radar from behind. Because of all this, I generally drive close to the speed limit. And yet I still got a ticket because a fucking asshole cop just decided on his own that I needed one.

I'm now logging my speed. I have a dash cam. And I'm also looking into remounting my cell phone so that I can capture video of any police encounters. Because a rattlesnake is a rattlesnake, regardless of how friendly you want to pretend it is.

stugray 09-07-2014 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 1934560)
"That's bullshit," I said.

If you had said "I'm sorry sir, but 1- that wont work in court, and 2-, you cant 'clock a whole group'" he might have let you off with a warning.
Pretty much ANY time you use language with the officer youre going to get a ticket for something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 1934560)
The asshole Texas state trooper probably had a quota to fill, saw a red sports car with out of state plates and decided I needed a ticket.

FTFY

extrashaky 09-07-2014 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stugray (Post 1935631)
If you had said "I'm sorry sir, but 1- that wont work in court, and 2-, you cant 'clock a whole group'" he might have let you off with a warning.
Pretty much ANY time you use language with the officer youre going to get a ticket for something.

Bullshit. A corrupt cop doesn't pull over a car he knows wasn't speeding and then give a warning.

JermaNoiD 09-09-2014 10:46 AM

I second the Waze app suggestion. It's not a sure fire warning, it has saved me on numerous occasions.

aznatama 09-09-2014 11:14 AM

don't speed... problem solved.

for MOST people, speeding will get them to their destination like... a min sooner. Worth a ticket? nah.

Alternative... get a motorcycle. After I got mine, I no longer speed in my cars, whether it was a M3, Sti, BRZ, etc. No point. These cars will never do 0-60 in under 3sec. =P

DoomsdayJesus 09-09-2014 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidBob (Post 1934175)
Got stopped a week ago at night because I flashed my lights at a car that had theyre highbeams on and was blinding me (turned out to be a cop) and got a ticket for it... And since I'm only on my permit I now how to go to court with the person I was driving in the car with (legal guardian over 21) and might have my license pushed back.... :'( been counting down the days for 4 years and now might have to wait longer :(

Contest the ticket in court. Just say it was a common courtesy flash because you were being blinded and you don't know why the cop took umbrage, unless there's more to the story.

Flashing your brights was just recently determined to be freedom of speech for warning about cops in a court case, if you want to be really high speed you could cite that court decision in your defense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewbot (Post 1933972)
Illegal in the Province of Ontario...

Get a stealth install. There are DIYs in the DIY forum. Good new detectors are undetectable by RDDs.

stugray 09-09-2014 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoomsdayJesus (Post 1939147)
Get a stealth install. There are DIYs in the DIY forum. Good new detectors are undetectable by RDDs.

My last RD could tell if the Radar had a "Radar Detector - detector" and would shut down in time to not be "detected".

So it was a "radar-detector-detector-detector".....

ANd I am positive that if anyone ever challenged the "radar detectors are illegal" laws, they would be declared unconstitutional.

Since they all typically have many other SAFETY related features. My last RD could tell you if you were approaching a railroad crossing or if an emergency vehicle was approaching.

Also, since when did it become illegal to own a device that alerts the user when they are being observed.
So are wiretap detection devices illegal too? How about RF bug detectors?
Is it illegal to sweep my car for any GPS tracking devices?

Oh, and since the NSA uses malware to snoop, maybe virus detection software should be illegal too?

djmm 09-09-2014 04:36 PM

You guys have speed cameras in US? It seems like the cops there are more lenient.
I got caught by speed cameras for driving 7.5 mph over the speed limit. Fuckin revenue raisers.

ShawnsRedBRZ 09-09-2014 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djmm (Post 1939437)
You guys have speed cameras in US? It seems like the cops there are more lenient.
I got caught by speed cameras for driving 7.5 mph over the speed limit. Fuckin revenue raisers.

They've been adding a lot of speed cameras recently in Chicago. Mostly in school zones. I haven't seen one yet but I think they're all marked. I did recently get caught by a red light cam :thumbdown:

ftc~brz 09-09-2014 05:31 PM

got popped while recording with go pro. when i was supercharged. 1st page of my 1st build thread, in the video section

but a few warnings for tint. Haven't speeded since (lol)

extrashaky 09-10-2014 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aznatama (Post 1938744)
don't speed... problem solved.

Except that I wasn't speeding when the giant gaping anus Texas state trooper pulled me over and issued me a ticket. That miserable piece of shit just outright lied.

When I was looking into contesting it, I came across a number of stories of giant gaping anus Texas state troopers doing the exact same thing to other people and winning in court. Apparently the judiciary in Texas has ruled that a giant gaping anus Texas state trooper is an "expert" on judging speed with just his eyeballs, and therefore all that is required to uphold the ticket is for the gaping anus to testify in court that he judged your speed to be in excess of the limit. The judge will side with the anus.

To me, that's institutional corruption. The entire Texas legal system is a corrupt revenue generation machine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by djmm (Post 1939437)
You guys have speed cameras in US? It seems like the cops there are more lenient.
I got caught by speed cameras for driving 7.5 mph over the speed limit. Fuckin revenue raisers.

We have speed cameras in New Orleans. They're set for 10 mph over the speed limit. They're all set up in school zones, but they're always active and adjust for the different speed limits when the school zones are in effect or not. Last year they also extended the school zone times until 4:45 to generate more revenue to waste on bullshit.

This thing looks kind of interesting, although I don't think I'll end up buying one because I just don't find myself speeding in school zones. It's just neat to think of the big "fuck you" it expresses to the city.

http://www.nophoto.com/

carma143 09-10-2014 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djmm (Post 1939437)
You guys have speed cameras in US? It seems like the cops there are more lenient.
I got caught by speed cameras for driving 7.5 mph over the speed limit. Fuckin revenue raisers.

In Los Angeles County the city put cameras at every light. The citizens quickly revolted at the idea, by protesting they were not the one in the car, wearing horse masks, etc. This caused the cameras to quickly become unprofitable with all the court hearings with no cash flow (drivers won almost every time). So the county shut down the cameras. It was too expensive to take them down though.

Now they stand as relics, reminding us of darker times.

djmm 09-10-2014 04:04 AM

That no photo concept looks interesting but wonder if it really works. Here in Aus when you get sent notice of offense, you get to "nominate" other person if it is not you who is driving. If you don't do that, owner of vehicle will be automatically charged.

Mim 09-10-2014 08:25 AM

Oh it gets better in Australia. We have double demerit long weekends, which when combined with the new red light camera's, that track speed also, can loose you your licence in one hit.


Not worth having a fast car these days. Well not round here at least.

aznatama 09-10-2014 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 1940246)

Apparently the judiciary in Texas has ruled that a giant gaping anus Texas state trooper is an "expert" on judging speed with just his eyeballs, and therefore all that is required to uphold the ticket is for the gaping anus to testify in court that he judged your speed to be in excess of the limit. The judge will side with the anus.

To me, that's institutional corruption. The entire Texas legal system is a corrupt revenue generation machine.

1. Request as many extensions as possible
2. Demand a jury trial (if allowed in TX?)
3. Request Change of Venue (if you live in a different county?)
4. Try to schedule court date near major holidays
5. File a request for discovery to get records to certify the trooper as an "expert" (likely that judge just believes him, and he's not really qualified as an actual "expert," so if you ask for proof/qualifications, nothing will come of it)

Not sure of these options will work for you in fighting a ticket, but good luck if you do try.

extrashaky 09-10-2014 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aznatama (Post 1940526)
1. Request as many extensions as possible
2. Demand a jury trial (if allowed in TX?)
3. Request Change of Venue (if you live in a different county?)
4. Try to schedule court date near major holidays
5. File a request for discovery to get records to certify the trooper as an "expert" (likely that judge just believes him, and he's not really qualified as an actual "expert," so if you ask for proof/qualifications, nothing will come of it)

Not sure of these options will work for you in fighting a ticket, but good luck if you do try.

As I stated above, I live in a different state. Traveling to fight it would have cost significantly more than just paying it. And even if I had lived anywhere near where the sack of shit issued the ticket, I would have had to miss work to go to court, so it still would have cost more to fight it than to pay it.

And furthermore, I always see this list of things you're supposed to do to try to fight a ticket. And yet when I was doing my research, I also came across plenty of stories where people did some or all of that and still ended up getting railroaded in court. I have my doubts whether any of that is anything other than wishful thinking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by carma143 (Post 1940313)
In Los Angeles County the city put cameras at every light. The citizens quickly revolted at the idea, by protesting they were not the one in the car, wearing horse masks, etc.

That's hilarious. New Orleans has red light cameras at certain intersections, but they malfunction all the time and flash when there's nobody even at the intersection. Quite a few people have gotten tickets for turning right on red after a complete stop, which is perfectly legal here.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:18 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.


Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.