FT-86=Hybrid?!? Please say it ain't so...
 

I just heard a rumor that Toyota is pushing production back to 2013, and they are thinking of making this a hybrid, can anybody confirm or deni these accusations?

Confirmed :(

http://www.modified.com/news/modp-10...-86/index.html

yawn... another rumor.

They just stated

from where? from who? Why can't they say who or where they heard it from? Cuz they don't know $%@ bout it! Another mag rumor cuz they don't have anything to say. Until Toyota official say it in the press or on their site it's another BS

I hope you are correct

You haven't been looking through this forum that much lately. There are countless threads on these two topics, Hybrid and Delayed, all over the place, and in all of them we are saying the same thing.

If Toyota doesn't say anything, then it's just tabloid bullshit. It's just because they have nothing else they can report on that can make any money.

Autoblog, Car & Driver, MT -- you name the magazine / blog and none of them link any source for their information. No source usually means flat out bullshit.

Actually if you look when I joined it was yesterday, and I've been following it as much as possible since then, I just found out about it and didn't see and actual thread so I made one, so don't try to be one of @sshole members that treats people who missed something like sh&t:thumbsup:

hehe thx for the post mate, ul catch up to speed soon i only joined a few weeks/months ago.
basically its like this. last official toyota news was that the car is still on schedule and that its a 2L boxer RWD everything else is specilations and bs to make hits on the websites..
speaking of which ANOTHER piece of bullshit, just thought id put it out there, oh apparently its a celica now??? HAHA
THIS IS IN THE SEPTEMBER 2010 ISSUE OF TOPGEAR AUSTRALIA, PG 24
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/e...p/IMG_0141.jpg

Nice thanks man, any word on the date being pushed back

Old, late rumor, that has already been refuted

I would recommend not really reading too much into anything that doesn't come from Toyota either directly or indirectly (I.e. through someone that had an interview with toyota, etc.). And it should say somewhere that it came directly from Toyota if it really did

Yeah, every month or so, we get those rumor. We were here to read every single BS rumor, so some of us are irritated than others, so don't take it personally.

of course, just for my entertainment, I'll take other side of some debate and debate for a while lol

yeah thats what i meant, even in the topgear magasine its total fucking bull shit
all unofficial sourcess keep riding this 2013 rumor that some overused-anal-douche-bag started

I don't why this rumor keeps coming over and over again, but I'm sure it's a BS. Toyota already confirmed that the car will go on sale early 2011. I wouldn't mind the delay if they are also building Supra equivalent at the same time.

hypothetically speaking, from a marketing point of view (im not a marketing person, im a engineer so this might be completely off LOL) it doesnt make sense to release 2 sports cars at the same time, makes more sense to release one, then the other, just to make more sales, or they could release both just for the lineup purposes

Hmm... I didn't mean to say releasing 2 sport cars at the same time, but I meant they are probably also working on Supra equivalent if it means to push back the FT-86 to 2013.

We can all dream, but even if they never bring out another supra, the ft-86 will be a great platform to have some fun with, and trust me give a couple years and if your not satisfied with the engine/drivetrain, someone will have a 2jz-gte swap kit for this

The JZ would be a very tight fit, that is if it will actually fit without cutting up the car (which I doubt it would). The hood is way to short and low; remember it was designed for a boxer, and while with enough money you can make anything fit anywhere, it would be totally retarded to spend a lot of money to ruin a car (i.e. weight distribution, center of gravity, curbweight, chassis integrity). @ less than 2700lbs (alleged) you don't really need 1000hp to make a super car killer. 500+ hp is an EJ20 or EJ25 turbo setup away, or if you really need to have a 6, I'm sure someone will start toying with high power EJ33 setups, in this more price accessible platform.

^You mean ER33? Prob EZ30D/R would be better. Full aluminum engine w new technology.

I agree but look at the Honda s2k, thats a k20 engine, pretty small and they have a kit to fit the 2jz in it, yes it is retarded expensive but I think it'd be retaded fun :burnrubber:

yeah, but S2k had the long front space for it, vs FT86 doesn't have much space in the front

You've already got a 500whp supra, what more do you want!! :slap: jk but with the size of this car even if you got it to 300whp i'm sure it would just be a rocket, 500+whp in this car might be too much lol; mind you it would be cool but scary imo :burnrubber:

Naaaaa just like my screen name says, I gotta have power, my goal with my supra it 1000whp so if this ft-86 is my daily then it's gotta be at least 400whp, yeah on a light car that's a lot but if I'm driving to work and the occasional domestic pulls up and wants to be a typical domestic (no offense to anyone here) I wanna beat that @ss

While the point you are saying is true, the photo is horribly mis-scaled. Overall length of S2000 is ~162.75", length of FT86 is ~163.75" - that photo makes it look like a 6" difference or more!

well I didn't want to post 2 pics, so I just found a gif of both s2k & ft86. I didn't make the gif. I'm too lazy to make the gif, someone else from here made it. :)

Fixed

That would ruin a perfectly balanced car. Cool for drag racing but thats it.

My mistake, the 8th gen si's where k20's

The only place a 2jz belongs,
http://www.denvergov.org/Portals/522...Dumpster_1.jpg
:DJK

:paddle:
Jk

When talking about the 2J swap and size you've got to think about this.

JZ series motors are 6 cylinders 'long'
F20 (S2000 motors) are 4 cylinders 'long'
EJ (Subaru boxer 4's) are 2 cylinders 'long'

EJ engine is also very, very low. Chance of fitting a JZ into a spot made for an EJ is very very slim.

If you can come up with internet evidence of JZ swapped Subarus then maybe, just maybe, there would be a very expensive possibility for this car.

Lol I guess I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut, it was just a what if

It's not 2JZ... but I remember this kid try to put LS1 into his Impreza

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...b/IMG_0263.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...b/IMG_0262.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...b/IMG_0261.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...b/IMG_0119.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...b/IMG_0118.jpg

In the end, he couldn't finish it (due to kid & the house).

2JZ is even longer than that. In that Subaru he was going RWD right? I think that's the only way the motor would fit far enough back.

Goddamn, the things I would do with an unlimited budget...

Yeah, I know that 2JZ is longer. I just remember when you said 2JZ & Impreza, LS1 Impreza came to mind.

I'm not quite sure on RWD or not. I wasn't fully following on his project... but I'm guess so.

kid, wife, & life get you in the way to built your unlimited money project :bellyroll:

I got pretty lucky, my wife was a big factor in me getting the supra, she was very supportive, not so much now that she see's what everything costs:thanks:Oh well!

Better be f'king JK'ing :paddle:

LSs are pretty compact engines

The S2000 has a very long hood. The 2JZ still sits ON the front axel, not much over. n the case of the 86, impossible, it would totally F things up.

Speaking of JZ series fitting where they are not supposed to,
http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/wp-...8_DSC_0025.jpg

http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/wp-...a_DSC_0175.jpg

Like said before anythings possible with an unlimited budget.

Holy sh&t! What size turbo is in there, that's the coolest XB ever

RWD xB? Toyota should take note, seriously.

or making xD FR will do (compact FR hatch... can't complain, right?). :)

Also, Toyota's lineup needs a small affordable RWD hatch/car badly( beside FT-86).

or MR sports car again