Supra Owners
 

Well it's a Toyota forum, why not have a thread for supra owners, enjoy!

I qualify.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=669

Me too! I'd like to get this made into a sticky but we will see, what year supra? What you got done?

No need for a sticky, we're not FT/R-86/S stuff.

I've got a JDM GA70 narrow-body, targa chassis, that was sort of converted to Twin-Turbo 'R' spec in Japan (1JZGTE, R154, Shadow Grey with factory Recaro and Momo interior) before it came here. It also came over with JDM Cusco coilovers and rear shock tower bar. Apexi intake and exhaust. Apexi boost controller and turbo timer. And Rays/Volk 2 piece rims.

Since I got it, I've put in an aluminum driveshaft, custom alternator bracket to re-tension the belts after a power-steering delete. CFX carbon fiber hood waiting to get put on. Texalium (silver CF) bucket seats. Harness bar and harness (I think this was from Titan). ETS intercooler and hard piping (also from Titan?). Previous owner kept the 2 pc rims so I bought a set of Rays/TRD forged monobloc 17" wheels from a buddy who upgraded to CCW's (mine are limited edition JDM TRD wheels not the Enkei ones from North American TRD). 6 puck ceramic clutch. Probably some stuff I've forgotten.

It ran 13.7 before the upgrades (basically stock with intake and exhaust). But I haven't tracked it since the mods that are reducing all kinds of mass from the car, especially rotating mass. I'm hoping for 13.3's on stock twins at 13psi. My goal is to make speed through efficiency first, then add power.

Next steps are ATI damper, maybe a lighter flywheel, and a Haltech standalone.

Nice, sounds like a plan, I just ordered 3 piece ccw's 2 wed ago, so they should be in this week sometime, I'll post some new pics when I get them on

The CCW's (CCW Classics, I think. They look like BBS wheels a bit.) my buddy got have all the extra holes drilled around the center piece to reduce weight. But I don't know if the small weight-loss is worth the hours it takes to clean them... heh.

Well it's actually a Lil more then u think, because they also leave off some metal that would be needed for the center caps, cause there are none on the race package, which is what that is, and wheel enertia (spelling?) on weight loss is -4x(weight lost on wheel) also X4 again for each wheel is equal to how much it would equal loseing off the total car, so every Lil bit counts

Hope that made sence

Here's the CCW's my buddy got:

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/z...Picture065.jpg

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/z...Picture068.jpg

They may be lighter with those holes, but I laugh at him when he has to clean them...:)

My coworker David has CCW's on his MKIV hardtop! (bad iPhone pic) They look perfect on these cars especially with 18's in the front and 17's in the rear.

I used to have a white '94 MKIV TT A/T but sold it after a couple of years. I've recently tried looking for one but most of them are all riced out or the owners is one crack with their price.

You just gotta do some serious searching, mine was close to stock and in great shape, at a great price, just gotta get super(supra) lucky lol

Are you going with the reverse stagger that a lot of the CCW guys do? (18's front, 17's rear?)

Buddy says it's so he has more sidewall to help hook up.

Yes and no, this first set is for street only, then when I get a Lil more whp I'm going to get a back set of 16's for slicks

If you do a brake upgrade in the back, double check that the 16's will clear. Another buddy did a Mk4 TT rear brake conversion on a Mk3 and couldn't fit the stock sawblade 16's and slicks when he got to the track. Don't know the whole story though (size, etc...)

Is that the guy with the 800+whp 7m? I met him at a PNW supra meet a few years ago. Nice guy and unbelievable car.

By the way the street set will be 18's all the way around
And I've already been looking at clearance issues, I have to get coil overs before I can put the street set on cause of the width of the back wheels/tires and the width of the stock suspension. Plus the back is already rolled and cut to fit wider wheels, but that's for the tip I'll look in to it

I look through the Trader every now and then. I wish I kept mine but I just couldn't afford it back then. Once I find a sweet deal, I'll definitely scoop it up.

18 F and 17 R is by far the best t/w combination for the CCWs on the MKIV.

one of my favs :bow:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...ic/86dd_12.jpg

I love that pic, that's the one that helped me decide to get those and not the 505a's, but mine are gonna be all black, lip and center

That is the one. Good eye! The turbo peeking out there would have been the T88 that he had before, probably when you met him. He's gone to a Garrett GT42XX now. His street tune on 94 Octane with meth is 710 (I think) to the wheels.

Was he running the TH350 when you met him? If he wasn't then, he put one in, ran a 9.90@147 and got booted cause he needs more cage, didn't like it on the street and is back to a R154 with a Tilton triple carbon clutch.

Now I think he's trying to get John Reed up for a final tune hoping to hit 1000+ to the wheels.

On a 7MGTE!

Wow thts impressive

The heads I have are VVT-i 2JZGE heads from a Lexus IS300. They are different beyond just the VVT-i as the exhaust ports are circular where the 2JZGTE exhaust ports are oval.

Basically all the VVT-i does on the 2JZ is act as an adjustable cam gear for the intake cam, but it does it while the motor is running. So it can be setup to make torque down low (and build boost) then change to make power up high.

It's not as advanced as i-VTEC.

It's sad, US MKIV Supra didn't come w VVT-i. Only VVT-i MKIV Supra were NA's. Japan did get Turbo VVT-i iirc

Still sounds like something to help make you some power, u gonna go for low end torque or building boost?

But usdm supra's came with more hp then jdm because us came with steel turbos where jdm came with ceramic

Yup. However getting good info on it is tough because Toyota still claimed it made only 280PS. Torque for the JDM VVT-i was 335 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm vs the 'export' 315 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm.

Now, that's something I didn't know

That's a significant amount more, noticeably earlier. I also suspect it made more peak power but that's just speculation...

Even with the same peak power, the VVT-i should be quicker when accelerating due to having more power 'under the curve'.


A turbo car won't make peak torque until it's making peak boost, so it's pretty much the same. More boost sooner is the goal, though.

Pics of the soups new stance and footwork, sits a Lil high, but the back was the wrong size tires, and they wouldn't take them back, they are 305 45 18's in the back, should have been 305 35 18's but I guess I'll just have to go a head and buy new ones when I burn these down, nitto NT05R in the back and nitto invo's up fronthttp://i819.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/IMG_7882.jpg
http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/IMG_5653.jpg
http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/IMG_4046.jpghttp://i819.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/IMG_7331.jpg

Ordering the new hood this week, can wait to put it on, don't know if you knew this but it's been proven that a vented hood can increase you wheel horse power pretty good by venting off the hot air, and giving your engine bay a path for air to push out the heat

Hey snaps what do you think about VVTI? Yay or nay for a aggressive setup

On the 1JZGTE what it does is drop the peak toque rpm from 4800 rpm on the twin turbo to 2400 rpm on the single turbo. (JDM vs JDM)

That means peak boost way earlier.

On the 2JZGTE there were the numbers I posted earlier, but there were other differences as they are JDM vs Export. I think on the US model it would be even more of a difference between VVT-i and non. Probably peak boost at least 1000 rpm sooner.

However you'll need a JDM ecu or standalone and have it tuned right. (I'm looking at Haltech's Platinum Series 1000 or a ViPEC V88.)

Now think of this... VVT-i tuned right AND a quickspool valve...

Actually... I was JUST discussing it in a thread on SF.com lol.

I think if it isn't going to cost too much more (for example - buying a VVT-I engine to swap in rather than swapping in a non-VVT-I engine into an N/A supra, very little price difference), then I think it's well worth it. The variable timing is a huge help with the power/torque under the curve, which is VERY important for spool and driveability - one of the main things I focus on with my car, and while mine isn't VVT-I, given the chance to get it I most certainly would.

I think it helps with almost all setup's, whether it's the stock twins or a small-mid sized single, the only place I don't think it will help all that much is with a big single, because by the time you get into the spool range of the turbo, the usefullness of the VVT-I is already next to none...

Basically, if I was building a supra, I would prefer to have it... as long as the tuner knows what they're doing! :D

Yeah I know about SF, I posted on that one too, but I was under the impression that you didn't have to do an entire engine swap, just a head and ECU, and I'm kinda curious, cause I'm going with a compound turbo setup, where a smaller turbo (GT35) spools up a large one (80 series) and my first goal on turbo and fuel system alone is 750-800 whp(then when I redo the whole engine go with the big boys.... 1000... What are your thoughts?

Head and ecu is what I'm doing (IS300 head).

I don't think you will notice a VVT-i difference with a compound setup.

What do you do for a living? CCWs and a compound setup??? $$$$ Baller.

I think that spammer needs to GTFOutta here....

Honestly, I don't know what would be involved in converting a non-vvt-i engine to vvt-i, probably just the head and ECU as you say, I would agree that it probably doesn't require a whole engine swap.

A compound turbo setup sounds awesome! But, just a question... Have you considered a custom sequential setup instead? In general I think with a compound setup the smaller turbo restricts the larger turbo's flow a little... Not completely sure, because I've never even seen one or anything, but that's just going from how it works in my head :D

I actually disagree with Dimman here though... I could see VVT-I being quite a big help on a compound setup... not only would you have the boost from the smaller turbo come on more quickly, the repercussions of that is that the bigger turbo would then come on even MORE quickly, because of the increased, earlier exhaust from the smaller turbo's boost....

Lol... Baller probably not, but I do get paid well

The compound setup in which I'm talking about isn't limited by the smaller because after a certain amount of PSI coming off the large one bypasses the smaller one completely, boost logic are the ones with this kit, and it's already proven itself on low boost and a base tune, ran a 10.5 I don't know about y'all but that's pretty impressive, and that was on a standard transmission

Yeah, the Getrag will do that! :D

That sounds like a great compound setup! Will be interesting to see a dyno graph when it's finished!

Well just put new tires on the back so the soup is back down to earth, here's a couple picks, got new front tires on the way I'll take more when they get here, next up hood painted, valve cover painted, and start saving for tranny and stall converter, and KaaZ LSDhttp://i819.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/IMG_2705.jpghttp://i819.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/IMG_4651.jpghttp://i819.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/IMG_8908.jpghttp://i819.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/IMG_5537.jpg

To get you a goo idea, this is before
http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/IMG_4359.jpg
After
http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/IMG_2622.jpg

Lookin' damn good.

^ +1

Take some more when I get back from SoCal, riding I'n my bro-n-law's EvoX right now, it's pretty nice, but not as fast as the soup :burnrubber: