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ayau 05-30-2012 06:29 PM

Anyone specifically request the dealer not to wash/detail the car prior to delivery?
 
anyone else planning to do a full detail once they pick up their car?

what will your detail involve?

this is my plan:

onr wash
clay
optimum hyper polish with porter cable
opticoat

Miniata 05-30-2012 06:52 PM

I knew there was something I was forgetting. I stopped in at my dealer today to check on my order (supposed to arrive next month) and told them to not drill the front bumper for the license plate, and meant to tell them not to wash it, but forgot. I plan to stop in next week again, so I'll make a point to tell them then.

I'll just give it a basic wash soon after I take possession, as I plan to concentrate on getting the thousand mile break-in out of the way ASAP, but after that I plan to do a full detail on it, probably consisting of a Dawn wash, clay, and wax, hopefully it won't need polishing right away.

ducks 05-30-2012 07:06 PM

i told them not to wash it or even take the plastic off of the panels

chemical guys citrus wash and gloss
clay
cg blacklight
four star ultimate paint protection
cg v7
griot's glass sealant
303 fabric guard on seats, carpets

i'd like to hear how opticoat works for you. still undecided if i want to use something like it

civicdrivr 05-30-2012 07:09 PM

I told my dealer not to "detail" it, they didn't listen.

It turned a relatively easy new car prep into a full on 13 hour two-step paint correction. But it was very worth it.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...h_14aa7918.jpg

Thankfully they did listen when I told them not to drill the bumper.

ayau 05-30-2012 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ducks (Post 232044)
i told them not to wash it or even take the plastic off of the panels

chemical guys citrus wash and gloss
clay
cg blacklight
four star ultimate paint protection
cg v7
griot's glass sealant
303 fabric guard on seats, carpets

i'd like to hear how opticoat works for you. still undecided if i want to use something like it

ive used optiseal before but this will be the first time using opticoat. applying the product will be the same as optiseal. all the reviews say that opticoat provides very protection.

i don't see polishing in your list of to-do. are you going to skip it if you don't see any marring? many people say that claying can cause minor scratches, so you may want to polish it after claying.

ayau 05-30-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by civicdrivr (Post 232050)
I told my dealer not to "detail" it, they didn't listen.

It turned a relatively easy new car prep into a full on 13 hour two-step paint correction. But it was very worth it.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...h_14aa7918.jpg

Thankfully they did listen when I told them not to drill the bumper.


i'll be reminding my dealer as soon as they give me the call saying that the car is here. hopefully it won't be too late.

what exactly is a 2 step correction? is that referring to using a cutting compound for the first pass, then using a light polish for the second pass?

civicdrivr 05-30-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau (Post 232107)
what exactly is a 2 step correction? is that referring to using a cutting compound for the first pass, then using a light polish for the second pass?

This is what we did:

-Clay bar entire car
-Polish car with Optimum Polish II followed by Menzerma Super Finish, with an IPA wipe down after each
-Seal with Blackfire Wet Diamond

The first hour or two was spent finding out what combination would give us the results we were looking for.

alluringreality 05-30-2012 08:15 PM

Based on the detailing forums my plan is:

Citrus wash
IronX & TarX
Clay Magic & Luber
Optimum No Rinse
Optimum Finish & Griots 6" Polisher
Carpro Eraser
Opticoat

The No Rinse and Eraser are extras, so I could always break the job into multiple days or use a different polish.

ducks 05-30-2012 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau (Post 232096)
ive used optiseal before but this will be the first time using opticoat. applying the product will be the same as optiseal. all the reviews say that opticoat provides very protection.

i don't see polishing in your list of to-do. are you going to skip it if you don't see any marring? many people say that claying can cause minor scratches, so you may want to polish it after claying.

they say blacklight acts like an all in one, so it should handle the minor stuff. i just hope the dealer and the drive home don't make any extra work for me.

Guff 05-31-2012 01:07 AM

I would imagine IronX will be important because apparently Rail Dust is a big problem with freshly transported cars.

vividracing 05-31-2012 01:18 AM

Let them detail the car. This needs to be done. Get that car nice and clean then walk the car and inspect it.
Inspect
  • Bumpers
  • Mirrors
  • Doors
  • Lights (moisture)
  • Wheels

Then inspect inside
  • Floor mats
  • Seats
  • Cig lighter
  • Radio/Speakers
  • Trunk
  • Spare tire and jack/tool kit
  • Keys

Then look over any added options.
Take as much time as needed till you are happy. If it seems like the sales guy is in a rush. Take that as you might be missing something.

Once you sign off and leave the lot. Unless the dealer is super cool. Its all on you. So get all the dirt off to see what is hiding under it.

vividracing 05-31-2012 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guff (Post 232587)
I would imagine IronX will be important because apparently Rail Dust is a big problem with freshly transported cars.

They also spray the cars to try and stop the smuggling in insects and stuff. Its nasty and should be left to the dealer to deal with.

moniz 05-31-2012 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 232606)
They also spray the cars to try and stop the smuggling in insects and stuff. Its nasty and should be left to the dealer to deal with.

Have you seen some of these guys who "detail" cars at the dealers? Trust me, you're better off doing it yourself or paying an actual professional detailer.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Guff (Post 232587)
I would imagine IronX will be important because apparently Rail Dust is a big problem with freshly transported cars.

Especially if you have a white car, over a couple washes those rail dust spots become painfully obvious as it did on my Mazda5. I swear by that stuff as it works amazingly at getting rid of the rail dust attached to your clearcoat.

vividracing 05-31-2012 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moniz (Post 233108)
Have you seen some of these guys who "detail" cars at the dealers? Trust me, you're better off doing it yourself or paying an actual professional detailer.

I understand. But if they detail it wrong, the dealer will have to fix it. As long as you catch it before you drive it off the lot.

I have seen a few friends take their cars home to detail only to find out that it had a scratch and another a dent. Dealer told them to pound salt. "Sorry you signed right here saying car left in perfect condition"

I just want people to be careful. Not all dealerships are bad or have bad people !

CU2MIKE 06-04-2012 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 233644)
I understand. But if they detail it wrong, the dealer will have to fix it. As long as you catch it before you drive it off the lot.

I have seen a few friends take their cars home to detail only to find out that it had a scratch and another a dent. Dealer told them to pound salt. "Sorry you signed right here saying car left in perfect condition"

I just want people to be careful. Not all dealerships are bad or have bad people !

So you're going to trust the dealership, who screwed it up the first time, to "fix it" a second time around? And probably by the same people who gets paid minimum wage doing it?

vividracing 06-04-2012 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CU2MIKE (Post 239839)
So you're going to trust the dealership, who screwed it up the first time, to "fix it" a second time around? And probably by the same people who gets paid minimum wage doing it?

No the dealer will not fix it themselves. Unless they have a Autobody shop.
They would more then likely farm it out. You forget if you sign off and get home and wash it. Find a nice dent or scratch. You will be on your own. You will not be able to head back to the dealer and expect much from them.

Guff 06-04-2012 12:53 PM

Solution!

Do the wash yourself at the dealership!

merlin2111 06-04-2012 12:58 PM

I am planning on rinsing the car myself at the dealership but detailing it at home.

CU2MIKE 06-04-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 240216)
No the dealer will not fix it themselves. Unless they have a Autobody shop.
They would more then likely farm it out. You forget if you sign off and get home and wash it. Find a nice dent or scratch. You will be on your own. You will not be able to head back to the dealer and expect much from them.

Oh! I thought you meant getting a detail from the dealership, then inspecting the car to make sure everything turns out good. That would have been the worse idea I've ever heard. I've never seen a dealership detail a car right, and the guy making minimum wage is doing more damage than he is doing good.

RRnold 06-04-2012 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guff (Post 240250)
Solution!

Do the wash yourself at the dealership!

Most if not all of the Toyota dealerships (in San Diego for that matter) have the drive through car washes.

ayau 06-04-2012 02:17 PM

Touchless washes will not remove dirt off the car btw. The only way to properly wash your car is with a wash mitt and proper washing technique. If you don't have proper washing technique, then it doesn't matter how much you spend on expensive washing products.

HunterGreene 06-04-2012 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moniz (Post 233108)
Have you seen some of these guys who "detail" cars at the dealers? Trust me, you're better off doing it yourself or paying an actual professional detailer.

Fortunately, the detailer at my dealership is GOOD. Seen him work, and looked over my car after he has worked on it before, and the job is just about top-notch.

Now if I can just manage to keep them from drilling the front bumper...
(Ohio front license plate laws = Fail)

ayau 06-04-2012 04:58 PM

ready to start polishing

http://i.imgur.com/KiabY.jpg

civicdrivr 06-05-2012 05:19 PM

Not in the sun, your not.

uspspro 06-05-2012 06:13 PM

I gotta hurry up and get the damn Cressida Wagon (v8 swap and other overhaul stuff in progress) out of the garage so I can detail the BRZ in the shade.... meh

SioXie101 06-05-2012 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by civicdrivr (Post 242866)
Not in the sun, your not.

some new products are safe under sunlight but ill stick to the old tradition of waxing and polishing in the shade.

ayau 06-05-2012 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by civicdrivr (Post 242866)
Not in the sun, your not.

i moved the car out in the sun to find the defects. it was still very difficult.

i ended up buying a 500w halogen light from menards to help spot the defects.

SioXie101 06-06-2012 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau (Post 243032)
i moved the car out in the sun to find the defects. it was still very difficult.

i ended up buying a 500w halogen light from menards to help spot the defects.

these lights are a must and cheap too when you want to see imperfections in the paint.

ayau 06-06-2012 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SioXie101 (Post 244502)
these lights are a must and cheap too when you want to see imperfections in the paint.

it was only about $9, very cheap.

it was still very difficult to find the imperfections in the paint. maybe it's the combination of the new paint and the wrb color. if it was that difficult to find imperfections in multiple light conditions, then i'm pretty content with the results even if there are still invisible scratches on the paint.

ayau 06-06-2012 12:29 PM

here's the rear fully detailed and opticoated.

http://i.imgur.com/7i6Q5.jpg

SioXie101 06-06-2012 04:56 PM

it would be better to frame your pic at a quarter view so the angle will make your color pop.

When i was detailing NWIguys SWP BRZ, these protective stickers left some mark at their edges both in the front fenders, rear spoilers and some in the front bumpers. The dealers did a lousy detail.

here was my results:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...&pictureid=733

Hamza7 06-06-2012 10:50 PM

Your results are looking great guys, I'll go ahead and say do not let the dealer wash your vehicle. Just give it a quick rinse while at the dealership to see any paint damage.


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