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imartisfrs 08-15-2014 03:35 AM

How I lifted my FRS
 
I was trying to install a trd exhaust and was looking around for ideas on how to lift the car up short of buying an ez lift or getting pinned under the car and this is what I came up with. Just wanted to share.

[ame]http://youtu.be/EfNMVFVjb1g[/ame]

TJ3000 08-15-2014 03:45 AM

No cool Skrilex Music? :(

imartisfrs 08-15-2014 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TJ3000 (Post 1900723)
No cool Skrilex Music? :(

Your right. That would have been better. let me figure that out this weekend.

HiXxY 08-15-2014 04:03 AM

Nice! How much were those ramps?

TJ3000 08-15-2014 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by imartisfrs (Post 1900727)
Your right. That would have been better. let me figure that out this weekend.

Nice DIY btw will think about getting race ramps!

Mini Cooper S 08-15-2014 04:14 AM

Srs? I know the answer.

retrosmiths 08-15-2014 04:40 AM

I dunno..looks insecure to me, especially the part where you lift the rear. One wrong move (even with the wheel chocks, but especially if you forgot them) and the car could slip backwards, crushing the jack and most probably damaging the differential and/or driveshaft. Might be better off getting one of those heavy, low-profile jack and a couple more jack stands.

Silver Ignition 08-15-2014 09:54 AM

I came in here looking for a Lifted Rally FR-S...all I found was an FR-S on jackstands.


I'm sad now...

n2oinferno 08-15-2014 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJ3000 (Post 1900723)
No cool Skrilex Music? :(


http://youtubedoubler.com/dcfc

Done

extrashaky 08-15-2014 11:02 AM

Sketchy. Just buy a Harbor Freight low profile jack and be safe instead.

imartisfrs 08-15-2014 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiXxY (Post 1900735)
Nice! How much were those ramps?

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_10?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=race%20ramps&sprefix=race+ramps%2Caps%2C2 04"]Amazon.com: race ramps[/ame]

They have different ones but the one I got was $227.

imartisfrs 08-15-2014 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJ3000 (Post 1900737)
Nice DIY btw will think about getting race ramps!

Thanks!

imartisfrs 08-15-2014 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retrosmiths (Post 1900765)
I dunno..looks insecure to me, especially the part where you lift the rear. One wrong move (even with the wheel chocks, but especially if you forgot them) and the car could slip backwards, crushing the jack and most probably damaging the differential and/or driveshaft. Might be better off getting one of those heavy, low-profile jack and a couple more jack stands.

That's what I was worried about. While I was slowly lifting it up I was slowly moving the jackstands from the front to the rear as space allowed plus I put the rear part of the ramp on the back wheels to act as a big wheel chock in case it moved backwards. I pushed that in under the rear tires as space also allowed while I was lifting it up. It was pretty stable.

imartisfrs 08-15-2014 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Ignition (Post 1900881)
I came in here looking for a Lifted Rally FR-S...all I found was an FR-S on jackstands.


I'm sad now...

Sorry

imartisfrs 08-15-2014 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n2oinferno (Post 1900890)


Nice!

imartisfrs 08-15-2014 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 1900948)
Sketchy. Just buy a Harbor Freight low profile jack and be safe instead.

Was searching for ideas on the internet but I was not brave to try the four jack stands. I found one from a bmw forum talking about using ramps for one side and lifting up the other so I tried it. I'm open to other ideas though. Would love to see how you guys did it.

imartisfrs 08-15-2014 12:54 PM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1IcZONWh8"]Portable Car Lift Unboxing & Review Part 1 - EZCarlift - YouTube[/ame]


Here's the other way I considered. Too expensive though.

imartisfrs 08-15-2014 12:56 PM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSUAXQOoXuY"]MaxJax Car Lift - YouTube[/ame]

Still another one I was seriously considering. No space in my garage.

n2oinferno 08-15-2014 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imartisfrs (Post 1901123)
Here's the other way I considered. Too expensive though.

So what's your budget?

Quote:

Originally Posted by imartisfrs (Post 1901130)
Still another one I was seriously considering. No space in my garage.

Always wanted one of these, but because my garage floor shifted and cracked during the previous owner's...ownership, I'm a bit wary of it. Also I'd have to relocate the overhead garage door opener to a side mount and have someone come in and change the door to a high lift. Something I want to do someday, yeah, but not in the cards (or wallet) now.

This is what I'm leaning towards now.
http://www.bendpak.com/Shop-Equipmen...k/BL-5000.aspx
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbeBNqgtIC4#t=13"]QuickJack Track Jack - Ranger Products Garage Demo - YouTube[/ame]

Sony 08-15-2014 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n2oinferno (Post 1901263)
Always wanted one of these, but because my garage floor shifted and cracked during the previous owner's...ownership, I'm a bit wary of it. Also I'd have to relocate the overhead garage door opener to a side mount and have someone come in and change the door to a high lift. Something I want to do someday, yeah, but not in the cards (or wallet) now.

This is what I'm leaning towards now.
http://www.bendpak.com/Shop-Equipmen...k/BL-5000.aspx
QuickJack Track Jack - Ranger Products Garage Demo - YouTube


I installed one of these MaxJax's in my buddies garage a couple months ago...let me warn you the initial install and setup is way more of a PITA than it was made out to be. If you ever do get one...make sure you rent a ROTARY HAMMER DRILL from Home Depot if you don't have one. The Rotary part is important...we tried to use a regular hammer drill and it SUCKED. One or two holes ended up being slightly crooked and it made the whole install a pain in the ass. That plus bleeding the hydraulic system was a pain and it took forever to get all of the air out. The safety locking system leaves a lot to be desired, they are literally just two big ass pins you slide into the pillars...but they only have two positions. so working height adjustability is minimal and leaves much to be desired. It took us an entire day to install the thing and while it does work it's definitely one of those...you get what you pay for kind of things.

If you have a 10ft ceiling in your garage for $600 more than the MaxJax you could easily fit a Bendpak XPR-9 in your garage which is a MUCH better lift. Yeah it's not easily portable...but in all honesty almost no one uses the portability as much as they think they will. Most people bolt it into the floor and forget about it then just pull far enough forward to clear the doors when they park. The XPR-9 also has automatic safety locks every 4" of rise and the XPR-9LP has low profile arms for lifting up lowered cars.

I have a Bendpak HD-9XW with an RJ-4500 Bridge Jack in my garage and I love it. Having a lift makes a huge difference in everything you do and what you can accomplish in a day. I highly recommend it to anyone who can afford it and has the space, best purchase I have ever made.

Here is a pic of my setup.

http://i.imgur.com/60vsQ.jpg

n2oinferno 08-15-2014 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sony (Post 1901588)
I installed one of these MaxJax's in my buddies garage a couple months ago...let me warn you the initial install and setup is way more of a PITA than it was made out to be. If you ever do get one...make sure you rent a ROTARY HAMMER DRILL from Home Depot if you don't have one. The Rotary part is important...we tried to use a regular hammer drill and it SUCKED. One or two holes ended up being slightly crooked and it made the whole install a pain in the ass. That plus bleeding the hydraulic system was a pain and it took forever to get all of the air out. The safety locking system leaves a lot to be desired, they are literally just two big ass pins you slide into the pillars...but they only have two positions. so working height adjustability is minimal and leaves much to be desired. It took us an entire day to install the thing and while it does work it's definitely one of those...you get what you pay for kind of things.

If you have a 10ft ceiling in your garage for $600 more than the MaxJax you could easily fit a Bendpak XPR-9 in your garage which is a MUCH better lift. Yeah it's not easily portable...but in all honesty almost no one uses the portability as much as they think they will. Most people bolt it into the floor and forget about it then just pull far enough forward to clear the doors when they park. The XPR-9 also has automatic safety locks every 4" of rise and the XPR-9LP has low profile arms for lifting up lowered cars.

I have a Bendpak HD-9XW with an RJ-4500 Bridge Jack in my garage and I love it. Having a lift makes a huge difference in everything you do and what you can accomplish in a day. I highly recommend it to anyone who can afford it and has the space, best purchase I have ever made.

Here is a pic of my setup.

Nice setup you have. I don't remember how tall my garage is, but it's not height that's the problem really. I have a "2 car" garage which in actuality is closer to 1.5, and I can barely get both the Fiat and the Camry in at the same time, so a two-post lift is unfortunately out of the question, and portability is a must.

cnk 08-15-2014 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n2oinferno (Post 1901263)
So what's your budget?



Always wanted one of these, but because my garage floor shifted and cracked during the previous owner's...ownership, I'm a bit wary of it. Also I'd have to relocate the overhead garage door opener to a side mount and have someone come in and change the door to a high lift. Something I want to do someday, yeah, but not in the cards (or wallet) now.

This is what I'm leaning towards now.
http://www.bendpak.com/Shop-Equipmen...k/BL-5000.aspx
QuickJack Track Jack - Ranger Products Garage Demo - YouTube

The problem with the Quickjack, even the larger bl-5000, is that it won't reach the lift points on the twins. Max width is 50.5" on the bl-3500 and 53" on the bl-5000. I was really interested in the bl-5000, but now I'm back to something like the Atlas Kwik Bay 7000 since that one can go up to 70" and reach the jack points.

imartisfrs 08-16-2014 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n2oinferno (Post 1901263)
So what's your budget?



Always wanted one of these, but because my garage floor shifted and cracked during the previous owner's...ownership, I'm a bit wary of it. Also I'd have to relocate the overhead garage door opener to a side mount and have someone come in and change the door to a high lift. Something I want to do someday, yeah, but not in the cards (or wallet) now.

This is what I'm leaning towards now.
http://www.bendpak.com/Shop-Equipmen...k/BL-5000.aspx
QuickJack Track Jack - Ranger Products Garage Demo - YouTube


[quote=n2oinferno;1901263]So what's your budget?



The ez car lift is almost $2000 with shipping which I feel is too much money for a little more space than jackstands. The max jack is $2300 with free shipping i thought was a better choice but after reading the review from Sony, I changed my mind.
I will keep looking. It's on my want/ wish list not really a need.



Quote:

Originally Posted by n2oinferno (Post 1901263)
So what's your budget?



Always wanted one of these, but because my garage floor shifted and cracked during the previous owner's...ownership, I'm a bit wary of it. Also I'd have to relocate the overhead garage door opener to a side mount and have someone come in and change the door to a high lift. Something I want to do someday, yeah, but not in the cards (or wallet) now.

This is what I'm leaning towards now.
http://www.bendpak.com/Shop-Equipmen...k/BL-5000.aspx
QuickJack Track Jack - Ranger Products Garage Demo - YouTube


imartisfrs 08-16-2014 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sony (Post 1901588)
I installed one of these MaxJax's in my buddies garage a couple months ago...let me warn you the initial install and setup is way more of a PITA than it was made out to be. If you ever do get one...make sure you rent a ROTARY HAMMER DRILL from Home Depot if you don't have one. The Rotary part is important...we tried to use a regular hammer drill and it SUCKED. One or two holes ended up being slightly crooked and it made the whole install a pain in the ass. That plus bleeding the hydraulic system was a pain and it took forever to get all of the air out. The safety locking system leaves a lot to be desired, they are literally just two big ass pins you slide into the pillars...but they only have two positions. so working height adjustability is minimal and leaves much to be desired. It took us an entire day to install the thing and while it does work it's definitely one of those...you get what you pay for kind of things.

If you have a 10ft ceiling in your garage for $600 more than the MaxJax you could easily fit a Bendpak XPR-9 in your garage which is a MUCH better lift. Yeah it's not easily portable...but in all honesty almost no one uses the portability as much as they think they will. Most people bolt it into the floor and forget about it then just pull far enough forward to clear the doors when they park. The XPR-9 also has automatic safety locks every 4" of rise and the XPR-9LP has low profile arms for lifting up lowered cars.

I have a Bendpak HD-9XW with an RJ-4500 Bridge Jack in my garage and I love it. Having a lift makes a huge difference in everything you do and what you can accomplish in a day. I highly recommend it to anyone who can afford it and has the space, best purchase I have ever made.

Here is a pic of my setup.

http://i.imgur.com/60vsQ.jpg

You have a lot of space. If I put that in my garage, I will have a tough time getting to the Washer and dryer if it even fits. Thanks for the review. It helped me cross it off my list.

n2oinferno 08-16-2014 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnk (Post 1901716)
The problem with the Quickjack, even the larger bl-5000, is that it won't reach the lift points on the twins. Max width is 50.5" on the bl-3500 and 53" on the bl-5000. I was really interested in the bl-5000, but now I'm back to something like the Atlas Kwik Bay 7000 since that one can go up to 70" and reach the jack points.

What's the spacing on the jacking points on the FRS? I don't have one and I've never tried to put one in the air, so I really have no idea..

imartisfrs 08-16-2014 01:07 PM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXCvq6DNJi0"]Great Idea for lifting a car - YouTube[/ame]


Anyone has this?

cnk 08-16-2014 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n2oinferno (Post 1902587)
What's the spacing on the jacking points on the FRS? I don't have one and I've never tried to put one in the air, so I really have no idea..

60" between the front and rear jack points.

n2oinferno 08-16-2014 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnk (Post 1902733)
60" between the front and rear jack points.

Wow I didn't realize it's just a bit too short to fit a bunch of popular sports cars.

Sony 08-16-2014 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnk (Post 1902733)
60" between the front and rear jack points.

Contrary to popular belief, you do not have to use the stock jacking points with this type of lift. The reason you are told to use the jacking points with the stock jack is because the stock points have a cutout that fits the stock jack where the seam fits in the cutout and the jack actually contacts the flat area around the seams. Plus the contact footprint and the ground footprint of the stock jack is VERY small vs. the rubber pads and jack provided with the BL-3500/5000, so the stock jack has a much higher risk of bending the seam on the stock points and doing damage. The BL-3500/5000 or the Axis use a MUCH larger contact point with rubber pads and the ground footprint on the jacks is FAR larger so there is much less chance for movement and damage to the vehicle. As long as you have the BL-3500/5000 properly positioned and centered under the BRZ you should have no issues jacking the BRZ with the Ranger jack.

The video was jacking a BMW Z4 which has very similar dimensions and jacking points as the BRZ/FR-S. In fact both cars are the same overall length and the wheelbase of the Z4 is only 4 inches shorter.

cnk 08-16-2014 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sony (Post 1903264)
Contrary to popular belief, you do not have to use the stock jacking points with this type of lift. The reason you are told to use the jacking points with the stock jack is because the stock points have a cutout that fits the stock jack where the seam fits in the cutout and the jack actually contacts the flat area around the seams. Plus the contact footprint and the ground footprint of the stock jack is VERY small vs. the rubber pads and jack provided with the BL-3500/5000, so the stock jack has a much higher risk of bending the seam on the stock points and doing damage. The BL-3500/5000 or the Axis use a MUCH larger contact point with rubber pads and the ground footprint on the jacks is FAR larger so there is much less chance for movement and damage to the vehicle. As long as you have the BL-3500/5000 properly positioned and centered under the BRZ you should have no issues jacking the BRZ with the Ranger jack.

The video was jacking a BMW Z4 which has very similar dimensions and jacking points as the BRZ/FR-S. In fact both cars are the same overall length and the wheelbase of the Z4 is only 4 inches shorter.

Thanks for the feedback. I've actually posted up a question about the necessity of reaching the jack points up on the garagejournal.com forums to see what others experiences are. I would honestly like to go with something like the BL-5000, P-6B or Atlas Kwik Bay 7000 if I could instead of having to do something like a MaxJax as I would then have to unbolt 1 of the towers after each use. Hopefully the feedback is in line with what you've already stated.


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