Cosworth FA20 Stage 1 Power Package
 

Intake, Midpipe, cat back and EcuTek tune!

http://www.cosworth.com/products/pow...power-package/

I wish they would sell just the catback. It seems like the best option to quiet down a catless header with a 3 inch header back.

Only 5250 plus tax and shipping. Such a deal! 1000 for headers. 1500 for exhaust. 1000 for the tune. 500 for the intake. 1250 for the cosworth sticker.

^This.

We have discussed developing a "power" package + tune for a long time. If it's feasibly, we'll do it. ;)

This is what I was thinking when I saw it, lol.

Just posted for posterity.

5250 dollars?

You'd have to be stupid to buy this instead of a supercharger.

Yea about that... :D

I think i could buy a 3rd gen Ford Taurus SHO with a Cosworth block for cheaper...

No, i know i can.

If you don't get the header I think it drops down to about $2800ish

I'm really disappointed to see a huge and respected performance manufacturer have stuff made for them by another company so they can use their own name (cosworth) as what I believe to be a gimmick purchase on the market... so people can brag about having "cosworth components" on their cars.. when really you can get the same and or similar products else where for a better value

However with that being said, I am interested in the intake manifold mentioned in the 1.3 package option

To me cosworth is an engine builder. I'd like to see them offer built block and head options for NA and FI

This right here. :thumbsup:

In for built N/A block..

I may go F/I at somepoint.. but long term I really want to just pay oodles of money to have a solid high comp N/A block built that can crank out ~300HP

Except the nameless header is $1500, downpipe $864, and the normal 3" catback is $1094. Granted its not the same catback, and still not a "deal".

My Kraftwerks kit was $3500. Cosworth can kiss my ass, lol.

Not sure if 300hhp can be done on the FA20, but I do know some more power can be brought out from a build. I prefer reliability over shear numbers. Repeatability is key. :)

From an earlier and different thread:

If Cosworth should release the power packages like the above speculation:

stage 1: $5.2k

stage 2: $4k+

stage 3: $5k+

We'll be looking at $15+ easily for all three stages... :eyebulge:

Wow. You are right. The Nameless hardware is a total fucking rip off even without the Cosworth enamel douche bag badge and numbered hand signed douche bag plate.

Really, if anybody is paying fi prices for this level of performance, they're being foolish. Significantly-less-expensive options from other companies have the same performance or more.

There's always someone who will do it for cheaper though.

That being said, doing the math my current exhaust set up comes out to about $3,000 USD. I'm sure I could have gotten the same sound and performance from an ebay UEL, and a generic muffler shop header back exhaust, but it somehow wouldn't be the same to me.

5200 bucks for ~30 more crank hp?....

I'm thinking the Cosworth intake manifold setup + PTuning header/exhaust/Ecutek tune will be real nice.

An EL Borla for ~500 and 170 for a Tactrix Openport give, I believe, ~210-215, and more with e85. Maybe more. Certainly not less. Sounds better than stock too. People will do what people will do, but I reserve the right to snicker. :)

Just look at what happened to HKS USA. You rip people off on overpriced parts, you won't last.

Blimey to get 300Bhp from a 2ltr you'll need to rev it to about 9500rpm....
I don't see this engine doing that on a reliable basis
unless you put most of it in the bin

so a full nameless exhaust is $3458
a tune also gets you the ECUtek hardware so $1000 for that
plus the air filter $100 and a thermostat $100

so $4658 in total

E85 puts out a lot of power but the juice requires extra fills and some mindfulness on your system needs to be kept in check. If you can swing it, a properly refined tune on 91 octane is perfect for day to day life. Add in a little 100 octane mix if you track fora safety margin. Remember, absolute numbers are nice but repeatability is key. Hell, I know you can pump a lot of power out of a very specific tune but it will overheat in one pull. ;)

So is the Cosworth catback 1.1 just the axleback of what Nameless provides on their site?

And then the 1.2 stage is that catback different than the stage 1.1? since the Nameless axeback offered by Nameless connects to the stock mid pipe where as this one looks like it is different in design.

Would the stage 1.1 use just the AB? and the stage 1.2 and 1.3 use a Nameless cat back that was developed just for Cosworth? Because the design is different if you compare the Cosworth Nameless Catback vs the Nameless Axle back w/ their mid pipe added on.

From the looks of it, I am assuming they are a different design. I assume the header is also a different design otherwise people would just buy these parts from Nameless instead. Is their any product development thread for this where we can see dynos? Or did Nameless state anywhere that the performance should be nearly the same but a little better than what they offer on their site. I mean just based on the design and looking at it, it looks like it would perform
/breathe a lot better than their Axleback/Midpipe Combo they offer that isnt part of Cosworth.

Its too bad its so expensive. I rather spend a little more and get the Greddy/Trust Limited Edition TI version Cat back that was announced recently for a couple hundred more. The Catback does look nice though and its design is my favorite of all the cat back besides the Greddy/Trust Limited Edition catback.

You can't buy just the Cosworth catback from Nameless(I tried), so it's not in their site. Cosworth won't let them sell just pieces of the exhaust, you have to buy the whole package or packages.

why not just buy the 1.1 from cosworth as that gets you the catback, air filter , thermostat, ECUtek hardware and a tune?

unless you already have the ecutek hardware I suppose?

I think there was some possibility of them Cosworth selling the kit less the ECUtek hardware for those that already have it

The catback is different. The header and front/over pipe are the same that's on their site.

Is that just the MSRP price? Because retailers might be selling it for cheaper than that, bringing it down more to the real price of high end aftermarket parts + high end tune? Just a guess.

I think the overpipe is different too as the resonator is spherical

http://www.cosworth.com/products/pow...ports-exhaust/


where the nameless resonator is a can

Not sure how a one-size-fits-all tune is high-end tune. High end to me is a custom tune on a dyno by a good tuner.

You guys are being tough on a very respectable company in Cosworth. If you price out similar parts their price isn't so bad. Comparing their header to a piece of shit Borla is ridiculous. HP gain vs. $$ spent is a different issue worth discussing. The fact that Cosworth chose the gt86 platform to offer its first power packages says a lot for our cars. I've been a fan of F1 for a long time and Cosworth has always been a major player there, which is impressive.

True story. We always recommend a tuner with a dyno to tune throughout the rev range with very specific suggestions and recommendations. Individualize tuning is always better than a "one size fits all" tune, however, with proper testing and R&D thrown at it, you can end up with a "one size fits all", but it won't be the most optimal.

Cosworth knows what they are doing, but their pricing also reflects their reputation. I wouldn't knock their packages, but toying with NA does reflect the consequences with budget. We have certainly setup some cars for NA and it obviously shows that the bolt-ons are simply not enough to plaster numbers on the board. The true benefit with this particular setup or our proposed setups are sustainability, repeatability, and reliability. Notice they choose only high quality parts and not crap parts for their packages. It takes a nice budget to play with the good stuff. :)

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At least their air filters are reasonably priced. :bonk:

If you were, you would know that's not true.

Shots fired.

On another note, it's impressive Cosworth was able to get 230HP out of the crank. That's assuming a very healthy dyno. ;)