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lfgrdwill 08-11-2014 09:41 PM

Headlights - Bright Enough?
 
What do you guys think of the headlights? Are they too dim? I know of the manual adjustment feature.

I would be coming from a 2006 civic with HIDs added myself.

cnk 08-11-2014 10:11 PM

I think they're fine. However, if you are coming from a civic that just had the regular reflector housings with a HID lamp kit, then you may think that the lights aren't as bright. I say this because a reflector housing shoots light all over the place while a projector housing has a distinct cut off so as to not blind oncoming traffic.

I had 5000K HID's in a projector housing on my 02 WRX and the BRZ lights are just as bright.

mike the snake 08-11-2014 10:30 PM

I find the low beams to be too low. They cut off abruptly, and do so too close to the front of the car. Basically they don't shoot light out far enough.

I found that I could raise the lights slightly by loosening the top screw that holds the headlight on, and lifting the light, and while holding the light up and tightening the screws the lights adjustment stayed higher. Much more acceptable.

Cope52 08-11-2014 10:34 PM

^^ did you spin the dial up on the dash?

Majik 08-11-2014 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cope52 (Post 1894529)
^^ did you spin the dial up on the dash?

This

krayzie 08-11-2014 10:50 PM

A good set of headlights have to offer good contrast so you can see different objects properly, brighter doesn't necessarily mean better.

Fitting a cheap ricer HID kit in a halogen housing is illegal and just retarded by blinding on-coming traffic.

ZionsWrath 08-11-2014 10:51 PM

I have mine set to the highest setting. At times I feel they are too low but the majority of roads I drive have lighting so it's not an issue for me.

Formula Vee 08-11-2014 10:58 PM

They're absolutely fine. I've owned cars with regular halogen headlights most of my life, and those were fine too.

HeadBanger 08-11-2014 11:51 PM

Bright enough?
Hell yes!


This is my first vehicle with HIDs - First with projectors even. I'm not too fond of the way the light just cuts out, but I'm getting used to it.

ayilar 08-12-2014 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by krayzie (Post 1894555)
A good set of headlights have to offer good contrast so you can see different objects properly, brighter doesn't necessarily mean better.

Indeed. On my C350, the bi-xenons' illumination of the road is good with normal beams but truly like daylight if I can turn on the high beams: they are _that_ good. The BRZ's xenons are nowhere close. Love my BRZ but not its headlights.

mike the snake 08-12-2014 03:49 PM

Yes, I did adjust the headlights up via the dial on the dash. The low beams still do not project far enough forward, and cut off too abruptly.

Raising the lights as I did helped a little.

My BRZ lights don't compare to the Xenons on my previous car (BMW 135i).

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Originally Posted by Cope52 (Post 1894529)
^^ did you spin the dial up on the dash?


Akari 08-12-2014 06:59 PM

The OEM lights on my BRZ are plenty adequate with a great cut off line. It sounds like a lot of people in this thread are used to crappy headlights that throw light all over the place which is dangerous as hell.

The goal of headlights isn't to throw as much light as high as possible but rather to light up the road in front of you and have a good, solid cut off line. This provides contrast to help you see yet doesn't blind oncoming traffic.

Cope52 08-12-2014 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mike the snake (Post 1895760)
Yes, I did adjust the headlights up via the dial on the dash. The low beams still do not project far enough forward, and cut off too abruptly.

Raising the lights as I did helped a little.

My BRZ lights don't compare to the Xenons on my previous car (BMW 135i).

Yeah the sharp cutoff is dangerous. If you go down hill for a bit you literally can't see anything until the nose of the car comes up again. I have to drive with my high beams on just to see deer. Every halogen on all my previous cars were better. And the horn wouldn't scare a racoon.

HeadBanger 08-12-2014 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Akari (Post 1896158)
The OEM lights on my BRZ are plenty adequate with a great cut off line. It sounds like a lot of people in this thread are used to crappy headlights that throw light all over the place which is dangerous as hell.

The goal of headlights isn't to throw as much light as high as possible but rather to light up the road in front of you and have a good, solid cut off line. This provides contrast to help you see yet doesn't blind oncoming traffic.

I live in the country.
When I say country, I mean bum-fuck-nowhere. You can't always have your high beams on. I feel the beam doesn't go far enough forward, and then the high beams seem to never end.


I guess that in my opinion the headlights are a little too focused. I came over from a '91 Civic wagon. Those lights sucked (was probably just my bulbs that are due), but it's as if I prefer them since they spread what little light they emit better.




I drive with my lights set at 1. 0 is the highest setting. The adjustment seems pointless to me if I'm truthful. I've never though "HEY! You know what would be great? If I could only see 3 feet in front of my car!":bonk:

Kostamojen 08-13-2014 01:05 AM

I find them fantastic. But allnmy previous cars had crummy headlights and maybe some foglights.

But they worked when I was driving the car home in the middle of Utah late at night with it being TOTALLY pitch black.

swpbrz 08-13-2014 04:55 AM

I get flashed all the time if I move the dial to the highest aim. Even at middle I get flashed. Id honestly rather have older technology lights. I hate being blinded by our new superior technology

mike the snake 08-13-2014 08:28 AM

The car's stance also affects the headlights.

krayzie 08-13-2014 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mike the snake (Post 1895760)
Yes, I did adjust the headlights up via the dial on the dash. The low beams still do not project far enough forward, and cut off too abruptly.

Raising the lights as I did helped a little.

My BRZ lights don't compare to the Xenons on my previous car (BMW 135i).

I find Japanese HIDs have always had very sharp cutoff, compare to German HIDs. The HIDs on your previous Bimmer probably had headlight washers and automatic leveling as well where an arm is attached to the front suspension (requirement to comply with EU regulations).

Actually TRD lets you make the output even worse by selling 6000K HID bulbs. (stock 4300K has the best output and closest to sunlight color temp).

http://www.trdparts.jp/english/86_pe...rts_other.html

Ganthrithor 08-14-2014 05:13 AM

I find the headlights to be pretty good. IDK why people are talking about the low beams being "too low"-- I have to trim mine a fair way down using the knob just to avoid beaming directly into people's rear-view mirrors.

They're not the best lights I've ever seen (the best I've used are the swiveling xenons on my dad's 135, which I totally thought were just a dumb gimmick until I actually used them... boy is it nice to see around your apex at night on a winding road!), but they're definitely a nice, modern setup. I came off a MkIV GTI that had regular halogens and the BRZ lights are a massive improvement. I also really like our red-orange cluster lighting... very easy on the eyes at night.

Alltezza 08-14-2014 05:52 AM

I drive with the dial up thing on a Zero apparently that's bright as hell and all this time I drove it with a 5 and it didn't really cover anything. Lol I learn something new everyday

Poodles 08-15-2014 12:40 AM

The projectors used are the same as an RX350, which is considered one of the best...


Now if you're used to an illegal HID kit in halogen reflectors that glare everywhere and have a huge hotspot then you'll think they suck.

Kayysonie 08-20-2014 12:37 PM

Set your headlight on the lowest setting (5) then just keep driving with your high beams on. works for me :)

It sucks I cant use my fog lights though.

The best lights ive seen on a car are on the new Lincoln MKZs. I think they are almost 8000ks. Their output is still bright even on rain.

I might upgrade my bulbs to 8000K but the bulbs are like 90 bucks a pop.

daiheadjai 08-20-2014 03:54 PM

These lights aren't bright enough. The lighthouse I used to drive was waaaay better.

Seriously, I am always amazed at how good these headlamps are (all my previous cars were either halogens or older HIDs)

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Poodles 08-20-2014 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kayysonie (Post 1908297)
Set your headlight on the lowest setting (5) then just keep driving with your high beams on. works for me :)

It sucks I cant use my fog lights though.

The best lights ive seen on a car are on the new Lincoln MKZs. I think they are almost 8000ks. Their output is still bright even on rain.

I might upgrade my bulbs to 8000K but the bulbs are like 90 bucks a pop.

You're missing a /sarcasm tag ;)

Kayysonie 08-29-2014 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Poodles (Post 1908912)
You're missing a /sarcasm tag ;)

Honestly that's what I really do.

Andrew025 08-29-2014 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kayysonie (Post 1908297)
Set your headlight on the lowest setting (5) then just keep driving with your high beams on. works for me :)

It sucks I cant use my fog lights though.

The best lights ive seen on a car are on the new Lincoln MKZs. I think they are almost 8000ks. Their output is still bright even on rain.

I might upgrade my bulbs to 8000K but the bulbs are like 90 bucks a pop.

Higher K != more lumens.

Neokolzia 08-29-2014 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by krayzie (Post 1894555)
A good set of headlights have to offer good contrast so you can see different objects properly, brighter doesn't necessarily mean better.

Fitting a cheap ricer HID kit in a halogen housing is illegal and just retarded by blinding on-coming traffic.



One has to wonder if you could correlate some stats directly to head on accidents or related accidents caused by poorly aimed overly powerful lights.

I know I am dreading driving the BRZ up north if I ever do, all those lifted Trucks with their lights aimed super high, running non-stop HID high-beams, or hell ever lightbars..... (I've seen it....) and literally blind every car not lifted as high as them.

Poodles 08-29-2014 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kayysonie (Post 1922610)
Honestly that's what I really do.


http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...picard-812.jpg

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Originally Posted by Neokolzia (Post 1922729)
One has to wonder if you could correlate some stats directly to head on accidents or related accidents caused by poorly aimed overly powerful lights.

I know I am dreading driving the BRZ up north if I ever do, all those lifted Trucks with their lights aimed super high, running non-stop HID high-beams, or hell ever lightbars..... (I've seen it....) and literally blind every car not lifted as high as them.



Got a lot of those idiots around here. Our lights are powerful enough to cut through their terrible glare, plus our high beams reach high enough to get them back! Maybe they'll get the point...

krayzie 08-29-2014 08:28 AM

When I walk around the neighborhood and see these retards, I just put my 200 to 400 lumens LED flashlight right at their windshields and they usually freak out like a caught petty thief.

Our BRZ high beams aren't high enough. Drive a Golf and re-program with VAGCOM/VCDS to have flash to pass come on at the same time as the HID high beams, and this is quite effective at teaching them a lesson.

Neokolzia 08-29-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Poodles (Post 1922850)

Got a lot of those idiots around here. Our lights are powerful enough to cut through their terrible glare, plus our high beams reach high enough to get them back! Maybe they'll get the point...



Oh I know lol, I had my car weighed down hardcore (little saturn) and absolutely loaded to the brim to move, and I measued clearance in wheel-wheel to fender to be like 3.5" then after when filled and gas to only like 1.5" xD. So my lights were aiming mighty high and some of those buggers let me know alot.

b1gb2olo 08-29-2014 10:41 PM

The setting shod be on 0 for farthest

Metzatricity 08-30-2014 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HeadBanger (Post 1896455)
The adjustment seems pointless to me if I'm truthful. I've never though "HEY! You know what would be great? If I could only see 3 feet in front of my car!":bonk:

The point of reducing the headlight projection is to not blind everyone else if you are hauling something and/or have a lot of added weight in the rear (causing the nose to rise).


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