FR-S design differences
 

I hope they really design the fr-s to look different than their base models. I dont want them to make their top of the line model to look the same as their base model, but I hope they do it right. For example, the Impreza model and the STI model; the Lancer model and the Evolution model. I wouldnt want to drive a car that doesnt stand out from it's lower models. It reminds me of a bunch of Scion TC's driving around. Your thoughts?

I think it would be a very wise marketing decision, kind of showing some respect to those who opt for a higher price tag in the name of performance (or what I hope to be a performance-based mark up).

What about the Venza? Toyota didn't make the higher end model any different from the lower model. The only way to tell the difference between them is by the wheels. The V6 got 20" 5 spoke rims and the IL4 got 19" multi spoke wheels. If that is the way they choose to go then great. I hate when the lower end car looks so different from the higher end car. Also look at what Subaru did this year with the WRX. It now sports the wide body just like the STI.

I see you point w Imp & STI and Lan & Evo... but I highly doubt it's gonna happen. Most of sports car model don't have it. Look at most of FR cars. S2k, Z, Supra, NSX etc, they don't have much trim difference from base to higher up (except few easy changeable parts).

BUT FR cars are well known for Limited/Special Edition ex: S2k CR, Nismo Z, xxth Edi Supra, Zanardi & GT NSX.

I prefer different looks between low and high trim level such as front fender vents, rear side flares, different wheels and aerodynamics, etc,... Some people don't only pay for differences in mechanical, but also the look.

Realistically speaking I imagine that a visual trim level difference would only happen if in fact their is a substantial difference in the price of the car (impreza to WRX is $9k+, and to the STI its more than the cost of a base model at $18k+. Lancer to evo is again double the base model at $19k+ .) but if its something less like the venza's v6 model (at the most $4k ) then I doubt a chance at body reconfiguration.

well seeing as the FT-86 is already a sports car from its inception, i dont see how those huge differences can exist. the comparisons you are making are of a family sedan (impreza, lancer) to a performance car (evo, sti) that simply share the same base.

the FT-86 is a sports car right off the bat so that family model doesn't exist. all we will see is change in trim and maybe a suspension upgrade or possibly the rumored turbo. exterior wise i dont see much changing except maybe a spoiler or the wheels.

For this car, I hope they don't offer different trim levels; no non color matched, Limited, SR5 etc.

Just offer 2 engine configurations (hopefully a N/A and Turbo) and build it from there. Add or removing whatever feature you want.

I was looking at the 370Z several weeks back. 370z base, sports package, touring, touring w/sports package, 40th, Nismo. I asked about the Sports Pkg but without the wheels (could have cared less for the wheels since they are ugly). They couldn't change anything up. I drove the thing, wasn't too impressed and now Mossy won't leave me alone! :thumbdown:

I think it will have very minimal changes. Kind of like the mr2 turbo and na. Only some one who knows their shit will be able to tell immediately.

I think they should keep the same form factor throughout and only offer differences in performance, wheels, and hid's etc like the 2010 camaro for example; It will keep both sides happy, the people who buy it for the looks and the performance inclined. That concept will most likely sell more cars for toyota. Subaru on the other hand just leaves me wondering what they'll do with it.

Uh... it'll be just like the tC. There isn't an Impreza / WRX / STI trim difference here; like other people have said, this is a sports car to start out with and will only have some engine / suspension / interior / wheels changes. Unlike the models you mentioned, the FR-S is a model (just like tC)... it's not like there is going to be an FR-2 (impreza/lancer) and an FR-S (significantly upgraded, like a STI / Evo).

The Venza isnt a sports car.

If this car comes out in toyota i dont think higher trim will look different, just like the corolla now "S" have the 1zzge and the "XRS" have the 2ZZGE. but who knows we seen the G sport maybe that will be the high trim or limited edition :iono:

yeah but the s2k, z, supra, nsx, etc wont be as MASS produced as the fr-s. fr-s will be mass produced like the TC and civics. I wouldn't want the fr-s to be a common car like the TC/civics. It will kill the uniqueness of the car. I want it to stand out from the rest!

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This.

Less fluff, more substance.

True, but when some moron try to race you in the street, surely they'll regret racing you cuz they can't tell the difference between base & higher end trim. lol

Hahaha Ichitaka, you're right. Some people can't tell what is under the hood.

:bow: lol yeah its the guessing part that kills you, its the WTF happen

Hey, what's wrong with you people? This car started as a simple and lightweight sports car, not as a big GT for old people. Nobody needs heavy and useless trim packages, there will probably be a TRD/G's tuned one that will have some changed body kit pieces, more power and that's it. This should be a car for people who enjoy driving fast, not for those who wanna show off their car at the golf club. You are a silly dreamer if you imagine that this car would be produced in Civic numbers worldwide.

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Easy there, I don't wont want to become to arrogant after to much appreciation.:bonk:

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True, nobody needs heavy and useless trim packages but sales dictate otherwise and they more than likely will! This prototype looks light but after it gets up to spec with the D.O.T then it won't be light (dual airbags, side airbags, curtain airbags etc)

If it's going to be TRD, it's probably going to be mostly cosmetic and if they do offer engine items, its going to be in their accessory page (TRD s/c)

If the price range is in the mid to upper 20K and depending on first year sales success, I'm almost certain this car will be played out AND at every car show "hella flushed"

Hmmm... Think about the logical implications of what you typed...

Don't worry, I'd be the first to knock you down off your high horse.

It would be nice if there were subtle differences like the evos, sti's, and even civic si's. For example, the base could have red tail lights and the top model have a black tail light housing. Maybe offer some nicer paint for the higher end models (ie: dark blue for base, lighter metallic for the top model). Toyota won't do anything drastic, though I do know that the base Rav4 and high end Rav4 have different front bumpers. Of course if Toyota just puts a turbo in their top model and change nothing else I would be more than happy!

Bah, all that is more of an excuse for Toyota to charge more money for less content...

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isnt the top of the range model the G'sport turbo charged version with wide flairs and different bumper and such??

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What... my intention wasnt to add on heavy and useless trim packages.. my intention was for a trim to come in differently so it obviously looks better than the standard model. When I see an 08+ STI, the first thing that stands out is the wider fenders and 1/4 panel. and whats wrong with a car that looks good? Do you want to drive an ugly car? And this car is INTENDED to be massed produced... thats why its priced so low. Theyre trying to boost Toyota sales. :slap:

LOL i know, but the lancer i see everyday is definitely getting old, but seeing an EVO on the streets never gets old.

I don't think so. iirc Tada-san said G'sport is one of the option/idea for ft86c. It's not the actual packet (it might in the future in Japan, but prob not in US). I think what they did was gave one of ft86c to G'sport and let them do what ever they want w it. Just currently G'sport is only one that show the model. Never know other shop might be involve in this project, just haven't shown the design yet.

i thought the point of the G-s concept was to show off what they can do for toyota as they will be doing styling packages for their current/future cars (JDM only afaik)?? thats what i read on here anyway :confused0068:

Considering older people buy more cars especially higher trims I think it's likely. We're expecting a GT at least right? It might have badges and stickers but that's all I'd expect from it.

I read somewhere the us was getting 4 g-sports style models; the prius, ft-86, and i forgot which others. could be wrong but i'm pretty sure i saw it

Hi all, new to forum here :)

I don't think they will make drastic change, will be pretty much identical.
Look at AE86, look very much identical with AE85..
Some confused people will think Levin = AE85, Trueno = AE86

A think a more valid design comparison would be Vibe vs matrix.... ends up with the same result though, pretty much identical.