fr-s engine swap for less than $20k
 

recently the fa20 blew in my car and the dealership is asking 20k for another motor. i was thinking just change it up to a whole new motor. could this be done for less than 20 thousand or is it a long shot. thinking a v8 or 2j open to ideas. not sure what kind of money would go into getting that idea completed but any info from experience or other threads would help!:thanks:

I am curious what caused the motor to blow? Powertrain warranty expired / voided?

You can buy a used fa20 with under 10k miles for around 3-4k..

where does the fvcking dealer get off saying a new motor put in would cost 20K????

How is your dealer in business? If they think it will cost $20,000 to put in an OEM motor, they will be out of business fast than i can start one.

I didnt know the rest of the car only costed 5-6k...oh btw you should do a built shortblock (FBM or MAP) then FBM stage 1 or 2 heads then add whatever turbo kit you like. Thatll take up your $20g's nicely.

if your going to do an engine swap make sure you know someone and an inspector that will give you a sticker. my brother had that problem when he did a rb swap 300zx

Talk to vorshlag.

^^^This.... Was the guy who told the OP this holding a tube of KY and smiling when you walked in OP??? @squizzbeat

Common sense should have kicked in and said wtf?? No way is stock motor anywheres near that fella. And why is this not being covered by warranty, where's rest of story here??

Lol so we all bought engines and got the rest of the car with it , engine must be made out of unobtanium

Trollololololol

I saw some FR-S' on cars.com (the entire car) for less than $20k... LMAO!

you can score a crate LS3 for less than 8G's and then buy the complete LS conversion kit from Weapons Grade Performance for another 8g's.

Then you'd have a full reliable 430HP V8, with $4000 to go out on vacation with your girl in a V8 frs .... no way is the FA20/4UGSE 20 grand....

I believe this fully.. Im getting a motor with 8k miles put in my frs as I post this, due to water damage (hydro locked), because the dealer told me it would be 23k.. and another almost 25 for a new one. The reason I'm getting the used motor is b/c I know the owners of the dealership and it just so happened there was a totaled frs nearby with frame damage and no motor damage. So I get a newer motor for my deductible cost than I had previously, but its still bull that the dealers would try to charge the price of the car for a new motor, and in my case less than the car.

Unless lamborgini developed this motor, there is no way in CJsporl1996's life that this motor is even worth 1/3 of that. Laugh, I say, literally laugh at their face. Call them on their BS, and talk to someone who knows the value of the actual damn car jesus.

the latest forester XT's use the same FA20 engine with a turbo. try that

Hey bro, ill sell you my FA20 motor for 15K shipped. dealership is trying to rip you off, I got you bro.

How much did you pay for the used one?!?!

You realize 23k is 2k less than the freaking msrp... There is no way.

For that kinda money, I'd just get another Twin lol. Quick and easy. And you'd have a spare complete chassis :)

...then slowly build the motorless chassis with an LS3 as a side hobby over the years.

So you'll have 2 FRS's...one with the stock FA r and another with a V8 :D

My buddy told met he reason the motor is so expensive brand new, is because they have to put the motor in a frs to ensure it works as expected,(yes I know this may not seem like its very practical, but they have certain protocalls to meet), then ship, tax, labor, ect. if u actually look at it from a dealers perspective it does make since that a "NEW" motor could cost around 20k, still I believe and he believes it is not worth it, put a v8 in it or find a used one for dirt cheap.... im paying 500 bucks for my motor and install btw :D

This minus the ls3 insert 2jz, was my first idea but im in school and would have not time at all to build it, so I took the cheap route that will get me out of this Yaris rental!!!!!!

Btw how'd you blow your motor?

That makes no sense.

Of course it wont make sense, its a large car company duh..

Also note this is coming from someone who in a few years will completely own the dealership that my car is at, friend or not he could be blowing smoke up my ass

Yeah, not just smoke....

http://kenstoutracing.com/live/index...2-fa20-engines

FS: 2 complete built FA20 engines w/ or w/out SC.

I would do a 2jz or ls2 swap for that price.

another troll thread :thumbdown:

the z/s2000 guys must be bored....

^ this would be totally BADASSS

Hell for 20gs you can buy a whole frs and have twin twins :bonk::bellyroll:

This whole things about $20k plus for a new motor via the dealership is a bunch of BS. The dealership just wants to trick you into trading in your blown car for a new car. This makes them easily over $20k of profit. They sell you a new car for the usual profit. Then they put a new motor in your car for less than $5k most likely, and then sell that car for its high dealership used value. Go back to the dealership and tell the Service Advisor that you know what kind of B.S. he is trying to pull and that either they can be reasonable or you are taking your car elsewhere.

Or just buy a Z28 camaro 5 speed and take the drive train and sell shell for parts, I saw a z28 with a messed up body for 3 grand.

Here ya go, bud: Lexus IS-F V8 long block for $8k


http://www.carmonkeys.com/2010-LEXUS..._campaign=bing


http://www.lexusv8.co.za/lexus-is/to...sf-conversion/


Damn, now I kinda wanna blow my engine "by accident"

^ damn lol... that would be epic

The dealership is not really trying to pull the wool over your eyes. If they look up the price of the engine in their system it will come up as over $20k. Go to any dealer and have them do it.

However, they can source a used engine and install it for much less.

Msrp engine from subaru $7,353.61

Put vtec in it bro.

Dealer parts departments always want to show a certain profit margin for the whole year, and in many cases don't adjust markup on expensive items. A good example of this is the SST in the Evo X. When I worked at a Mitsu dealer the MSRP on one of those was well over 18k just to buy the transmission!

Thread smells fishy from the start.

I would buy another FRS =D

Despite several requests, there is still no information on several things which would make this post much more reliable. We are missing information like A) how the engine popped. B) Were there any on-going issues with the motor prior to pop? C) What area is the OP from in the US? -- I am sure I am missing several other things.

I can confirm an MSRP significantly less than $20,000 ($7,673.71 in my area after taxes) Then, let's go ahead and add $3000 in labor and we stand at a little over $10,500 for the motor installed. This takes into account that even after you buy from the dealership, you aren't required to install it there so it could be even less expensive purchasing and installing else where.

Something just feels off about this post. Too many unknowns.

http://parts.subaru.com/p/Subaru_201...0100CB270.html

7353.61 from Subaru, but I believe the Toyota systems don't reflect the same prices.