Vorshlag LSX kit
 

Awesome look underneath my car during the fabrication of long tube headers for my LS conversion by the folks at Vorshlag, their attention to detail is unsurpassed. These very same headers will be offered in their swap kit. You can also see their powder coated gloss black tremec trans. mount. A thing of beauty. The engine you see minus its internal guts is their mock up engine, lighter and easier to get in and out.



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why can't texas laws be the same here :(

Putting a v8 in your gt86...
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I would love to do an lsx swap.

^ I recently came across a 20b Cosmo rotary and considered it for a swap. Initially was going to purchase another FD chassis. Who knows what I'm gonna do with it lol.

OP what motor are you gonna end up with? Also, are they going to be reproducing the swap parts and if so what would the price on something like this be?

looks great

dammmm....

Up in Plano, eh?

When's the estimated completion date? May have to make a trip to see this in person :)

I've actually been following their build on your car which is awesome and I have a question I've felt was never really touched upon was the ECM. What are they going to do about the electronics and making it run? As far as I am aware the speedo, fuel gauge, temp gauge and such work without the requirements of the FA20 engine running. However things like the tach and such require the engine to be running since the sensor is integrated, now this is all from my understanding and yes it is very limited so please excuse any errors.

I like this build a lot because you get all the benefits of an LS into the twins and I would like to take advantage of some of the LS features in the newer engines down the road like how it only runs on 4/8 cylinders for economy, Direct Injection and such.

I guess my question is do they have two ECMs in the car then? One is the Chevy ECM to run the LS motor and pair it with the FA20 ECM to run everything else in the car that it is reliant on? Also I'd understand if you cant disclose any of this information but I am genuinely curious as I would like to take on a project like this in the future hence the question.

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I need to see this running...and doing burnouts, lol

I follow the smugmug pic blog regularly. It's exciting. Just saw those header updates today. Looks super high quality! :D

Those collectors are CANNONS...Two of them too! ;)

Dat clearance between the bellhousing, collector, and underbody. Free with purchase: driver and passenger side footwell warmers!

No really though, that T56 is a tight fit!

A solution has already been figured out where as the GM engine is fully integrated using the stock ECU and all factory gauges / power steering / air-conditioning (a must in Texas) etc. are fully functional.....so yes all gauges work using the Toyota ECU.

It will be fully shielded for heat and the transmission is a Tremec Magnum XL specially ordered for this project , the T56 would of required a lot of sheet metal work and still would of required a remote shifter, the XL is a direct shifter (for a much better feel) and fits the OEM shifter placement almost perfect.


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This guy is so cool.

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For my goals right now a stock fully rebuilt LS1 is going in, I'm looking for long term reliability in strictly NA form, I'm sure some will want to up the anti with a LS3......and yes this whole project is for Vorshlag to use my car for development of a LSX swap kit for the twins.......price wise I'm not sure as I'm the test bunny customer.

I was told by the end of August.

Damn, that's impressive! Please keep the updates rolling as you can. I'd love to know how that was accomplished.

Price I heard was gonna be close to 20k. Maybe more.

Loved my LS1 in my '02 Camaro SS. Beast of an engine and a torque monster. That wasn't even a built engine... that's the scary part.

Is Vorshlag going to offer a plug-n-play wiring/engine/ecu/can-bus harness with their kit?? ...or is the swap kit customer going to be expected to do all the wiring harness modifications? If the latter, will instructions be provided to the swap-kit customer?

Motor mounts solid or is there some nvh control?

Take a look through the pictures linked. The engine mounts aren't solid, though their not terribly far off. The transmission mount is essentially solid. One side has poly, but the other side is metal to metal.

From what I have been told it will be plug and play and be part of the swap kit,.......this Kit is, and will be, designed for owners to accomplish in their own garage at their own pace, the complete conversion. They have gone to great lengths with countless trial and error with many different parts they have on hand and also ones they have had to order for trial to make this a kit for the masses and not just a one off build that requires copious compromises and major hacking of sheet metal. It will truly be a bolt on solution for what most of us crave and this car needs,.. more power and torque in a natural state. I went the FI route with this car (turbo), and after a ton of money with a forged short block Ferrea race valve set pushing 18lbs. of boost felt like it was a ticking time bomb even though I only put 100 miles on that engine with no issues, but there is so much that could go wrong in an instant that I didn't want to have to keep my eyes glued to the boost and AFR gauge constantly or else POP!..(As a note I did have a problem on my first build, and because so had it built stronger the second time)...btw that engine is for sale and someone is going to get a swinging deal on it. I gotta have 20k wrapped up in that thing over the cost of the engine itself.

I needs more info and update :-)

I hope they can get the price down below Weapons Grade Performances complete swap kit ($9k + engine and trans). The two companies seem to have taken considerably different routes for mounting options. Love seeing more LSx swap options. WGP has also tapped the OEM ECU to get all the normal functions of the twins. I just started stripping mine down today for an LSx swap too.

They have? Do you have any video of it?

They do actually. It's in their blog I believe. There are now several videos of it including the gauge cluster in working condition. Also using AC, electric steering, EVAP, etc.

Too bad we can't get an LSx section here on FT86Club to get all of us who are building these in one spot. LS1Tech is so flooded with swaps it's hard to sift through them all. Not to mention I am doing and LSx swap on a 1st gen S10 right now simultaneously.

I agree completely.

You can get a Sikky (or a few others) LS1 swap kit for a 240sx for under $2k. (engine and trans mounts, oil pan, driveshaft,) Sikky is $1750.

Weapons Grade offers the identical parts + brake master cylinder for $3750. I know that master cylinder isn't worth $2k. :)


You can actually buy parts for the 240sx LS1 swap a-la-carte from Enjuku and get them for less (mounts for $300, Oil Pan for $400, DS for $300, headers $600, power steering kit for $300, BMC for $250, and converted wire harness for $600 = Grand total of $2750)




Now for the BRZ/FRS:
I know the world revolves around supply and demand.. so as other companies get into the game they will certainly drive down prices. I would expect WGP to charge a bit of a premium to start because they have put so much R&D into it. But I think double the price of a base install kit is a little high.

The big part of a full swap kit would have to be the electrical (wiring/ecu stuff) to make sure everythings works properly.. that's certainly the hard part.. and can certainly be expensive.. So i'm sure this is going to keep the prices high for a while. At least until some pioneering forum member does it all from scratch (successfully) and shares the results.


*note.. I'm not saying I would do an LS1 swap or that I think it's the best option for this car.. just commenting on the costs vs. other platforms to see what is a reasonable price for swap kits.

As a past owner of several LS1 engines in different vehicle, I can imagine the LS in a twin would be the most fun. I absolutely cannot imagine....if I won the lottery I would do this swap instead of buying a new Porsche or something...just the thought of a lumpy LS idle coming from a twin does it for me.

Yea...... the cost of a Lsx kit even for the 350z are half the price. Main reason it makes my pp soft

Any updates, @cf6mech?

Sorry but no updates, not really sure why myself to tell you the truth. But being patient.

Looking forward to the updates can't wait to see finished product.

Any updates?

subscribed.

Where it sits right now, engine and transmission in for the last time, they found that the stock radiator fan shroud interferes at the bottom with the LS accessories do to the tilt so they ordered Mishimoto fans and they will make custom shroud , we are also awaiting prototype long tube headers to return from header manufacturer.
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My apologies I have tried searching for this but couldn't find the answer. Do you know what the weight difference will be with the new engine and transmission?

Does it have to be tilted?