How many of you Swapped your 86 for 15 WRX ?
 

As 15 WRX has FA20 DIT. The exact same engine in the 86....just different Direct Injection system, and a turbo.


I just wonder

How did I miss this fact. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

:( It was an honest question. The dealers here rarely has any WRX or STI on the lot, at all....I talked to the sale rep, and he said they have been flying out of the lot

You are one curious fellow, Xti.

So I decided to take a peek, since it seems like it'd raise the fuel economy.

1: Not really, 6MT is 21/28
2: LMFAO the CVT gets 19/25! What was the point of that, again?

I saw the other day that Car and Driver measured the CG height on the new WRX at 19.5". Weight distribution at 60/40. Curb weight at ~3300 lbs. So it's not exactly a turbo BRZ with AWD, as you might think.

I know @thill made the switch so he can probably comment on the differences first-hand.

Rather buy an S3. Yeah no manual, but why own one car?

the STI...
 

The STI still uses the FJ25...

Jaden

I definitely wont.

My wife had a 2011 Corolla, and we don't want another corolla. Granted, the new subaru corolla has a scoop on the hood, but otherwise I see no appeal.

I wonder when we will see people doing a OEM turbo swap from the fa20dit? its probably already happened hasn't it?

So has anybody done a build with stock WRX turbo and Direct Injection Sytem in the Twins yet???

My thoughts from another thread on the two cars:
Owned a BRZ and now a 15 WRX. Just some of my thoughts:
Pros for the BRZ:
- Even though both cars have the same ground clearance, the BRZ has a much lower feeling center of gravity. You sit low in the car and you really feel more connected to the road. The seats in the new WRX are higher. You get great visibility, but you lose the sports car feeling. BRZ cockpit is more drivers focused. Seats are better in the BRZ. WRX has more amenities and some nicer feeling materials.
- Light and RWD. Don't get me wrong, I love AWD in the winter, but BRZ is a more fun car to drive if you enjoy sliding the rear end out from time to time. For me light and RWD is the perfect recipe for a sports car.
- Handling is better. Steering feel is better. I just felt more connected to the road and the car feels slightly more intuitive to drive than the WRX.

Pros for the WRX
- Power. The new WRX has a twin scroll turbo and a direct injection engine. Lots more torque down low than the BRZ and more linear response.
- AWD in the winter. If you put snow tires on these cars they are very confidence inspiring in inclimate weather. It also helps with launching the car.
- A backseat you can put real humans in.
- WRX has amazing resale value.

Make no mistake. The new WRX is a much better handling car than the previous gen WRX. Much stiffer chassis. Sharper steering. No bodyroll. I like the newer engine better and MPG's are very close to my BRZ.

It just comes down to if you are willing to give up the true sports car for the sporty sedan that has more power and is more practical if you haul people.

The FA20 and the FA20DIT are just as different as the BRZ and the WRX are. The FA20 is a high compression engine where the FA20DIT Is low compression. Not to mention that where the DI systems are different you can't put FA20DIT heads on a FA20. These are the old EJ series engines like all the Subaru people are used to seeing.

Huh? The FA20DIT is nothing like the EJ series engines..

EJ25....

that was a fat finger. sorry...
 

yep, fat fingered it...

Jaden

How you guys could compare an ugly sedan with the twins? It's like comparing a microwave owen (ok, with convection and grill + "1001 granma's receipts" culinary book included) to a video game console because they both are made by Panasonic and have similar price and power consumtion.

dude...
 

puff puff pass.....puff puff pass....

Jaden

Nice comparison, makes me miss AWD + turbo of my old STI hatch. I'll probably switch back to an STI or WRX when I need something more practical. :thumbsup:

Thank you Thrill !!

Correct that to aren't like the old EJ series.

And I am going to look at a used NB Miata this weekend to get my RWD light car fix on a budget :) I would love to pickup another FT86 or an S2000 for a playcar but the Miatas are just so much cheaper and it is just going to be my toy car....

I thought the same. Seriously, for 10k you can grab up an almost perfect condition Miata :-D Talk about Track Toy

That's gonna be a nice combo of a powerful sedan with a light toy car. Post pics of them both if you get the Miata.

Definitely! Great value considering how cheap they are. A good buddy of mine had an old NA Miata (red 1991) that we used to bomb back roads with. Love those cars.

so why not swap the HPFP from the WRX to BRZ to stop the crickets?

I would like to trade my FR-S for a 2015 WRX, but I can't seem to find one that I can test drive before I order one. I'll probably just wait to see what the 2016 has and if they finally decide to get rid of that pathetic EJ257 in the STi.

Can she still walk? Seats are torture, almost sent me to the chiropractor's office after 10 seconds.

BTW, does the new WRX have the crickets?

When I ordered mine, I put down a refundable deposit. Once the car arrived I was able to do a thorough test drive before I signed the paperwork to buy it.

If you are considering the STI, I agree, wait for the engine to be updated.

You may be onto something.

I did. And I kept my FR-S.

See, that's why I didn't spend the extra $$ on the BRZ Limited, I just put it toward a WRX, for all those Subaru BRZ snobs out there...a Sport Tech with EVERY option except the overpriced STI under body kit.

Don't recall complaints about the seats, but she had back issues before that car, so if there were complaints, I might have just written it off as previous injury...

That's not a bad deal, I would consider doing that if I was truly serious about it. I would prefer to test drive one on a lot, fall in love with it, and then order one or maybe just buy the one on the lot.

If I bought the WRX, I would trade it in on the STi as soon as it got an updated engine though. I really don't want to buy another placeholder car if I don't have to. I guess as an added bonus, if I have to wait a few years I'd be able to keep my FR-S since I'd have a sizable down payment by then.

Still not sold on the looks. I'd rather get the STi, especially this generation a wingless subie just looks eww

I should be seeing at least one 2015 WRX soon, I will try to take a look and see if they have the same pump. I don't recall where I saw it but someone was told it may not even be the pump but the injectors themselves. I don't think anyone really knows why we have the crickets. Hopefully they don't become as famous as the gas tank in a ford pinto.

hpfp crickets

injectors knocking

imo

I've wanted to like it, but it's an ugly car.
Always been a mixture of ugly/boring/boy racer.

I didnt like the new wrx look on the internet or youtube but once i see it in person i definitely dig it. I do agreed tho it look better with the spoiler especially on this year model.

wrx/sti sales are up 38% this year alone.

https://autos.yahoo.com/news/subaru-...153031655.html

Subaru has seriously been dropping the ball on WRX/STi sales over the last few years. Pretty much order only, which is ludicrous. People don't want to wait, they want a car immediately. Not everyone has the ability to wait, either. Makes me wonder what the sales increase would REALLY be if they could have sold a car that day instead of having to wait.

That is a cold hard fact. The thing is that Subaru has never expected for their vehicles to be selling to well. First off it was Forester, then Crosstrek, then now WRX. I heard they were reducing WRX production down to increase the production of Forester, and now they can not keep up with the demand.

Isn't that the proof for other manufacturers to see ? Subaru is doing something right. Why does Mitsubishi drop Evo ? :bow::bow: Idk what they are thinking either