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Cope52 08-06-2014 02:17 AM

What changes would you want on the BRZ?
 
Here's my list..

Armrest
Longer seat cushions--my thighs are dangling in mid-air
Better headlights and horn
6.5" rear speakers
86 the SUV-like sideview mirrors
Cant the gas pedal 15 degrees to the right
Less understeer



Had the car all of 3 weeks and already have the crickets.

Love the car though, it's a 26K Porsche. :)

Kiske 08-06-2014 02:22 AM

A damn recliner! I can't sleep while driving this thing!

w.k.s. 08-06-2014 02:58 AM

What exactly do you want out of "better headlights?"

Natheria 08-06-2014 03:07 AM

Am i the only one who dosent want an armrest? Before i bought the car i was actually thinking about buying one because it looks like you need one, but in practice my arm rests in completely the wrong place for an armrest to be effective at all, in between the handbreak/shifter and the place where an armrest might be. That middle cubby is just spaced way too far back for it to be effective at all.

protpibe 08-06-2014 03:58 AM

I absolutely love the OEM Toyota armrest from over seas. They should at least make it a dealer installed option

Other than that, I wouldn't really change much. To me, the car is a blank canvas so as long as the chassis is good and it's RWD, I'm happy.

btoast 08-06-2014 04:32 AM

For me it's simple:

1) Better interior build quality (way too many rattles in my car)
2) A little more insulation to keep road noise down (particularly in the trunk area as the cabin gets much louder when the rear seats are down)
3) Miles-to-empty option in the dash read out. It is great to have MPG and trip, but having an estimated miles-to-empty reading is very nice and I miss it from my other cars.
4) A chilled seat option rather than heated seats
5) Better overall sound system

Other than that, for the price the car is real nice. Even if some think its under powered.

JM9ISM 08-06-2014 04:46 AM

Sound system.

akahenry 08-06-2014 05:14 AM

I just think more insulation in the truck is all I need. My car with just headers and a cat back (everything else is stock) is way too loud in the cabin. Also, the rattling every once in a while sucks too. I don't really mind these things though, they make it feel like a race car (it aint). I like race cars.

dodj 08-06-2014 08:10 AM

A better head unit. Software is not very intuitive.
Move cup holders fwd a bit.
Pretty drastic changes eh?

You aren't the only one natheria, i have no interest in an arm rest either.

Ingen 08-06-2014 09:12 AM

I'd like an arm rest, a little more anti-road-noise insulation, and a transmission that doesn't sporadically grind >.< Also, addressing all the little rattles would be nice, but probably expensive and short lived (I'm guessing they would just use foam to keep things from rattling, but it would wear out).

pche 08-06-2014 09:36 AM

20 more horse power.

SCHN3LL 08-06-2014 10:49 AM

Massaging seats, lane departure warnings, night vision camera, self parking and autonomous driving capability.






J/k it's perfect.

Raven 6 08-06-2014 10:53 AM

I agree, 20-30 more horse power. close the wheel gap a little and larger exhaust tips, hate the stock gap there.

Scenic Driver 08-06-2014 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Natheria (Post 1884466)
Am i the only one who dosent want an armrest?

You're not the only one. I have to keep the seat too far forward for an arm rest to be usable, the ebrake handle works fine for me.

tahdizzle 08-06-2014 01:00 PM

The Lexus dealership is That way: ----------------->

You guys bought the wrong car.

Cliu91 08-06-2014 01:10 PM

Shave off the moustache.

xxBrun0xx 08-06-2014 01:43 PM

Better head unit is really all the car needs. If we're really being picky, better stock tune, thicker paint, miles till empty readout, heated seats that you can actually feel through a winter coat, larger exhaust tips or smaller cutouts for them.

That being said, the car is absolutely perfect. Thank you, Subaru/Toyota, for giving we enthusiasts what we have been asking for since 1999.

BRZZZZZZZZZZ 08-06-2014 01:46 PM

Heavier steering (fixed mine with CasCam plates)
More sound deadening (thinking of spray foaming the rear wheel wells and dyna-matting interior)
More interior plastic quality and fit and finish
+30WHP without forced induction (down the road for me)
Better wheel and tire setup stock (already ran 5 different wheel and tire setups)
Different non-clear Altezza style tail lights (cant justify $500 on new ones)

krayzie 08-06-2014 01:46 PM

I wish the manual front seats can remember their last positions after pushing them forward to access the rear seats like Euro cars.

Also I wish they have convex driver side mirror that shows the blind spot beyond a dotted line like Euro cars for the RoW market.

These are the dumbest things with Japanese cars in general. I gave up these and other creature comforts (like how the wipers automatically slow down one speed setting after coming to a stop, wipers would rest on alternate sides of the rubber after turning off the car to prolong blade life, multiple seat heater settings, infinitely adjustable seatbacks, fuel pump that would prime the moment you open the driver's door, windows that can be rolled with the remote, etc) cuz I can't deal with rubbish electrical issues and bad mechanical designs associated with Euro cars.

surcy 08-06-2014 01:49 PM

More torque or at least a flatter torque curve.

robwbright 08-06-2014 02:05 PM

Links below for what I've done.

I wanted a quicker car relatively inexpensively without having to make significant other mods like replacing the clutch. Done with the Phantom ESC and Open Flash Tablet for $2500.

I wanted more bass response. Done with a 10" powered sub in the trunk for $275 installed (and it wedges perfectly under the back deck).

I wanted less rattles and lower noise inside. Partially done with sound dampening insulation in the doors, trunk and under the rear seats. Still intend to do the front floorboards (total cost about $75). Also need to figure out how to resolve the occasional rattle coming from the back deck (I know there's info out there about it - just haven't gotten to it yet).

Otherwise, the only things I think I'll do is put on an Open Flash Header and Michelin Pilot Sport AS/3's at some point. Love the car.

Phantom Electric Supercharger:

http://www.phantomsuperchargers.com/...ubaru-brz.html

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39719

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66862

Open Flash Tablet:

http://openflashtablet.com/Automotive/FRS/index.html

Amplified Sub:

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...e_P300-10.aspx

Sound dampening:

http://www.jcwhitney.com/bonded-logi...&filterid=u0j1

robwbright 08-06-2014 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surcy (Post 1885055)
More torque or at least a flatter torque curve.

See my post if you want it relatively cheaply. Especially see the dynos on this page:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39719

175-180 tq at 4000 rpm is a lot of fun. :D

zc06_kisstherain 08-06-2014 02:19 PM

easier to install Spark Plugs? seems like impossible to change

ncmx5 08-06-2014 04:24 PM

Wow what abounch of babies, more sound deadening? really? I wish this car was more stripped out than it comes. I guess you should look at some grandtouring heavy boat if thats your thing.

ayilar 08-09-2014 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w.k.s. (Post 1884456)
What exactly do you want out of "better headlights?"

I can't speak for the OP, but in my case I have two MB to compare the headlights to: my (now sold) 2005 C230k SC's halogens and my C350's bixenons. There is no comparison. The Coupe's were extremely good for halogens IMHO, consistent with with their being rated highly in (if memory serves) AutoCar and in a French car magazine I read at the time. The 2008 C350's are so good that I love driving at night: it's good with normal beams but truly like daylight if I can turn the high beams on: they are _that_ good. The BRZ's xenons pale (no pun intended) in comparison. Love my car but not its headlights.

ayilar 08-09-2014 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scenic Driver (Post 1884940)
You're not the only one. I have to keep the seat too far forward for an arm rest to be usable, the ebrake handle works fine for me.

The following aftermarket option works well for me:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...45#post1890845

ayilar 08-09-2014 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxBrun0xx (Post 1885042)
Better head unit is really all the car needs. If we're really being picky, better stock tune, thicker paint, miles till empty readout, (…)

That being said, the car is absolutely perfect. Thank you, Subaru/Toyota, for giving we enthusiasts what we have been asking for since 1999.

Second!

noodleface 08-09-2014 02:34 PM

Total pipedream but I'd like the hydraulic steering unit from the 2015 STI. Coming from someone with steering rack bushings, the STI has just glorious feel and weight and it's really fantastic even when compared to the already excellent BRZ/FRS.

Bobblehead 08-09-2014 03:36 PM

20 more horsepower, nicer exhaust tips for the USDM units, and better tires. That's all I would change. Maybe a little more sound insulation in the trunk.

xxBrun0xx 08-09-2014 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobblehead (Post 1890931)
20 more horsepower, nicer exhaust tips for the USDM units, and better tires. That's all I would change. Maybe a little more sound insulation in the trunk.

You have got to be kidding, the stock tires are so much fun! Feel like the only people saying it needs more power are the same people who have sticky tires. Less grip is way more fun, IMO, but each to their own.

Bobblehead 08-09-2014 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxBrun0xx (Post 1891155)
You have got to be kidding, the stock tires are so much fun! Feel like the only people saying it needs more power are the same people who have sticky tires. Less grip is way more fun, IMO, but each to their own.

The stock tires aren't very confidence inspiring as the car sits, much less with 20 more horsepower. More power and stickier tires would have to go together, IMHO.

quality_sound 08-09-2014 07:46 PM

They're not SUPPOSED to be confidence inspiring. They were chosen for their easy and predictable breakaway. If they had more grip the breakaway would most likely become a lot less predictable.

PHLonomenal 08-10-2014 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cope52 (Post 1884425)
Love the car though, it's a 26K Porsche. :)


It really is.

quality_sound 08-10-2014 10:37 AM

I'd add an armrest, redesign the console underneath so the cupholder can be in the forward position while using the 12V adapter, and move the brake and gas closer together. I really can't heel/toe in this car without turning my foot sideways and I hate that. Less wheel gap. Change the navi HU in the BRZ. That thing blows goats. NO hard track up/down buttons? Seriously? It wouldn't be so bad if the screen calibration wasn't as bad as it is. Just a bug bucket of fail on that and I KNOW Fujistu can o much, much better judging by the outstanding Eclipse units they used to make.

Other than that I think it's perfect.

BRZBlack 08-10-2014 11:16 AM

I'll go with the thicker paint idea and less rattles inside (mostly from music up loud). other than that she is perfect.

quality_sound 08-10-2014 11:24 AM

It's not a paint thickness issue. It's a formula issue. Ever since manufacturers HAD to change the paints they use to a water-based formula ALL automotive paint has sucked.

Odd 08-10-2014 03:06 PM

Steering Wheel Audio Controls / hardware buttons on the stereo to switch the damn song without my tapping my finger 18 times on the next song button.

quality_sound 08-10-2014 03:33 PM

That radio really is shit.

craigpitts7 08-10-2014 03:53 PM

No torque dip in the lower rpms and I'll 2nd more power.

GotBRZ1691 08-10-2014 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odd (Post 1892160)
Steering Wheel Audio Controls / hardware buttons on the stereo to switch the damn song without my tapping my finger 18 times on the next song button.


+1 i hate the touch screen's sensitivity. You have to mash it to get it to read. and it is kind of slow and laggy so when in Nav it won't go then it will go twice. Aggravating.

And more Torques. could use like two more lumps of torque. :burnrubber:

All I know about torques is they come in lumps - Jezza


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