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HeadBanger 08-01-2014 07:05 PM

Do Impreza guys hate us?
 
I get the sense that Impreza/Subaru guys don't really like us.

It seems as though whenever I wave to somebody in a WRX/STI I never get a wave back.

Are we the gorgeous step-sister that everybody else is jealous of?

AJPG 08-01-2014 07:15 PM

Dude I was thinking that I was fucking paranoid!

mokinbird87 08-01-2014 07:16 PM

I had a bugeye and I think of my old days so I wave at the other wrx/sti drivers and surely, nothing...

I do think it`s a different demographic for sure. I used to be quite obsessed with torque numbers :)

HeadBanger 08-01-2014 07:18 PM

I live in a small area. There's a decent concentration of Subies though. Never get get waves.

Even when I venture to Ottawa or Montreal I don't seem to get waves back.
Hell, FRS' don't even wave to me lol

fanaticalz 08-01-2014 07:25 PM

i give the occasional deuces to wrx's.. i'd say it's like a 50% return rate

gramicci101 08-01-2014 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeadBanger (Post 1877923)
I get the sense that Impreza/Subaru guys don't really like us.

It seems as though whenever I wave to somebody in a WRX/STI I never get a wave back.

Are we the gorgeous step-sister that everybody else is jealous of?

That depends. Are you gorgeous?

I think they're offended that they're no longer the sporty Subaru, they're the heavy Subaru. They're still athletic, but they feel like the stocky sister that plays field hockey and softball, not the graceful sister that studies ballet.

ihaskrayon 08-01-2014 07:38 PM

Most of the guys I wave to, wave back. To be very honest with you, I get more love from WRX and STi guys over FR-S/BRZ drivers.

chas3wba0 08-01-2014 07:40 PM

I get the occasional deuces/thumbs up from STi's. Not so much from WRX's... maybe they're insecure...

MrBlaze-65 08-01-2014 07:42 PM

I was a WRX guy, I remember that I used to have difficulty telling the twins apart so I would miss half the opportunities to wave because I wasn't sure it was a BRZ. Why I was biased to one over the other. I guess it was just a Subaru thing in my head. Silly in retrospect.

uEih 08-01-2014 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chas3wba0 (Post 1877992)
I get the occasional deuces/thumbs up from STi's. Not so much from WRX's... maybe they're insecure...

The main reason for that is STi people understand, they know the car culture and see it as a "nice car!" thing. WRX people are a mix of people who are into cars and others who might just love outdoors and don't really care about cars. What a look out for a modifications, those are always clear signs of people who are into the same things. But in the end I don't even get a lot of waves from FRS/BRZ as I use to. Most of the time I feel stupid waving and not getting one back so I usually do a head nod if they look my direction, at least that doesn't make me look weird. When I see a BRZ/FRS I always try to catch up to it and pull besides it but majority of the time lately they ignore me and just drive :(

uEih 08-01-2014 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBlaze-65 (Post 1877995)
I was a WRX guy, I remember that I used to have difficulty telling the twins apart so I would miss half the opportunities to wave because I wasn't sure it was a BRZ. Why I was biased to one over the other. I guess it was just a Subaru thing in my head. Silly in retrospect.

Nothing wrong with that I guess, it sounds snobby or elitist but majority of the time the people who stops me to talk about my car always says, "I'm glad you got the Subaru version" it's just bad rep from Scion owners I guess. They're both nice but I found that people do judge it on the badges.

dsrttigr 08-01-2014 07:56 PM

Every time I finally notice another twin with enough time to wave. It's a woman driving and I get a confused look back. Only one WRX has ever waved to me.

chas3wba0 08-01-2014 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by uEih (Post 1878002)
The main reason for that is STi people understand, they know the car culture and see it as a "nice car!" thing. WRX people are a mix of people who are into cars and others who might just love outdoors and don't really care about cars. What a look out for a modifications, those are always clear signs of people who are into the same things. But in the end I don't even get a lot of waves from FRS/BRZ as I use to. Most of the time I feel stupid waving and not getting one back so I usually do a head nod if they look my direction, at least that doesn't make me look weird. When I see a BRZ/FRS I always try to catch up to it and pull besides it but majority of the time lately they ignore me and just drive :(

Very true, usually they have to be "in the scene" to even acknowledge us. Although I had a young kid in a slammed, excessively-cambered bug-eye WRX throw me deuces one time, and I just instinctively shook my head at him... oops... :slap:

B-R-Z 08-01-2014 09:35 PM

I've gotten a wave once, all the others did obnoxious driving in traffic once they noticed me.

wbradley 08-01-2014 09:44 PM

Yeah I hate you. I also must hate myself.

Speed2th 08-01-2014 09:47 PM

some of my customers are from SCIC impreza club. when i told them i am getting a BRZ, they all tried hard to convince me to get new wrx instead. i think some hardcore subaru fans believe all subaru should be all wheel drive.

uEih 08-01-2014 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chas3wba0 (Post 1878109)
Very true, usually they have to be "in the scene" to even acknowledge us. Although I had a young kid in a slammed, excessively-cambered bug-eye WRX throw me deuces one time, and I just instinctively shook my head at him... oops... :slap:

Everyone has their own taste but that's almost a completely different scene I'd say. Slight camber can look very nice but the ones who are cambered so much it looks broken are usually the ones I never fully understand.

extrashaky 08-01-2014 10:05 PM

I don't get it. I didn't buy an Impreza. Why would I expect them to act like we're in a club together?

Do Impreza guys wave at lesbians in Foresters?

Kostamojen 08-01-2014 10:13 PM

Impreza L owners adore us.
Impreza RS owners like us.
Impreza WRX owners tolerate us.
Impreza WRX STI owners look down on us.

:lol:

B-R-Z 08-01-2014 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uEih (Post 1878249)
Everyone has their own taste but that's almost a completely different scene I'd say. Slight camber can look very nice but the ones who are cambered so much it looks broken are usually the ones I never fully understand.

True

Anything lowered beyond the outline of the tire + 1cm/2cm looks retarded to me

Zozr 08-01-2014 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HeadBanger (Post 1877923)
I get the sense that Impreza/Subaru guys don't really like us.

It seems as though whenever I wave to somebody in a WRX/STI I never get a wave back.

Are we the gorgeous step-sister that everybody else is jealous of?

Yeah the WRX STi guys are real jealous...

You're the "gorgeous" step-sister if the step sister is fat and slow :bonk:

uEih 08-01-2014 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by B-R-Z (Post 1878273)
True

Anything lowered beyond the outline of the tire + 1cm/2cm looks retarded to me

Exactly! I can't stand seeing it so low that the tires don't look circular anymore. :lol:

Infamous Performance 08-01-2014 11:06 PM

LOL. Thin skin in this thread. Been driving, owning, building Subies since 2001.

Its a Subaru, not a Corvette. Most Subaru owners dont wave to each other or acknowledge the other car at all. If they are a forum member, they might look for the exact same model. WRX/WRX, LGT/LGT, STi/STi. But waving to other Subaru owners is not what makes a Subaru a Subaru.

Take no offense. None is meant. But there is nothing more to it. If you get a head nod, you got all you can expect.

jskurucz 08-01-2014 11:14 PM

Owned a twin before my Sti...

Loved having a twin and every time I see one on the road I'm jealous about how sexy they look compared to the '15 sti.

However, I rarely wave because WRX/BRZ/FRS aren't exactly "rare" cars.

tyrantcf 08-01-2014 11:23 PM

I wave at other twins whenever I see one, which is rare here, and pretty much never get one back. WRXs are everywhere and they dont ever wave back to me either....maybe it's just me?

dtrop 08-01-2014 11:55 PM

I've received two waves from WRX drivers with ownership of the car since May. On both occasions, there just simply wasn't enough reaction time on my end for my wave to actually count.

I think this could be a huge factor, just not enough time. Drivers might be just paying attention to the road.

SLEEPER WRX 08-01-2014 11:56 PM

You can't help what other people do or don't do

You can only be responsible for what you do

Give the deuce unconditionally

HeadBanger 08-02-2014 01:31 AM

Maybe I should specify.
I don't wave to grandma in her Tribeca. When I see a lowered car on aftermarket wheels, I'll give a wave.
@Zozr WRX/STI are fat, and not that fast



For the record I'm not really a "Subaru guy". I Just happen to have a Subie. Whenever I'm in my Civic wagon every single person I encounter in a modified EF will give a wave back.
Maybe I'm just too nice since I'm Canadian

Turbo95eg6 08-02-2014 05:03 AM

For some reason people in WRX's wave at me. Oddly enough,
the only person that tried to race me was some douche in a wrx.

mav1178 08-02-2014 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeadBanger (Post 1877923)
I get the sense that Impreza/Subaru guys don't really like us.

It seems as though whenever I wave to somebody in a WRX/STI I never get a wave back.

Are we the gorgeous step-sister that everybody else is jealous of?

The question is, why would you care if other car owners hate or don't like you? Why would you assume that a non-reaction is a sign of jealousy?

You can think your car is pretty all day... in the end, it's just another car to another person.

The sooner you get over this, the more you'll enjoy your drive every day. It's like bad traffic... it happens. Nothing you can do about it. You can hate all you want, in the end how you come out of a traffic jam is very much your own choice.

-alex

HeadBanger 08-02-2014 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 1878644)
The question is, why would you care if other car owners hate or don't like you? Why would you assume that a non-reaction is a sign of jealousy?

You can think your car is pretty all day... in the end, it's just another car to another person.

The sooner you get over this, the more you'll enjoy your drive every day. It's like bad traffic... it happens. Nothing you can do about it. You can hate all you want, in the end how you come out of a traffic jam is very much your own choice.

-alex

Very good point.

My question to you is why would you assume that I care what anybody thinks about my car, or me? It's just an observations I've made.

And are you saying our cars aren't pretty?

m.wood0213 08-02-2014 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ihaskrayon (Post 1877991)
Most of the guys I wave to, wave back. To be very honest with you, I get more love from WRX and STi guys over FR-S/BRZ drivers.


This is what I experience. At least in my area it seems most frs drivers are young and act stuck up, BRZ drivers are older and I might get a wave if they notice me, but WRX drivers notice the WRB and know it's a Subaru and I usually get a honk or wave.

CoupedUpSubie 08-02-2014 11:53 AM

I get waves and thumbs up from tons of WRX's and STi's. Even foresters and legacy's. Then again, I know most of the people that are "in the scene" in my area.

blackhawkdown 08-02-2014 12:09 PM

why do you care if others wave back? you wouldn't wave to me if i was a stranger in a park would you? keep waving one day and the you meet the wrong gang, dead.

Laika 08-02-2014 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kostamojen (Post 1878271)
Impreza L owners adore us.
Impreza RS owners like us.
Impreza WRX owners tolerate us.
Impreza WRX STI owners look down on us.

:lol:

Very interesting outlook.

I noticed the WRX drivers are younger and generally dislike the BRZ for low power and all that. The STI drivers I've noticed seem to maybe have a better appreciation of "driving" and will often wave in acknowledgement of another driving enthusiast.

Strangely enough, in the short amount of time it's been available, I've still received more waves from 2015 WRX drivers than all other WRX drivers.

Who knows though? I've gotten lots of waves from Mustang owners so all current data is null and void. We will investigate further.

Shagaliscious 08-02-2014 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 1878254)
I don't get it. I didn't buy an Impreza. Why would I expect them to act like we're in a club together?

Do Impreza guys wave at lesbians in Foresters?

I wave at all cars I like.

I saw a sweet street rod last weekend and gave the guy a thumbs up, got a wave back too.

I don't think it depends on the car, BUT the more expensive the car gets, the less likely you will get a wave back.

I've also been late on waving back to a lot of other owners. So just because someone doesn't wave back, doesn't mean they are giving you the cold shoulder.

NemesisPrime909 08-02-2014 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 1877976)
That depends. Are you gorgeous?

I think they're offended that they're no longer the sporty Subaru, they're the heavy Subaru. They're still athletic, but they feel like the stocky sister that plays field hockey and softball, not the graceful sister that studies ballet.

Oh I don't know. Stocky girls can be quite graceful.

extrashaky 08-02-2014 12:49 PM

The waving thing is about shared experience. When I had my Triumph, other British car drivers would wave at me, and I would wave at them. Why? Because we shared an experience that other people didn't really know about.

We knew we could pull over to the side of the road and immediately strike up a conversation about all the times our cars had broken down, what our last repair was or what strange things we had had to do to keep the thing from falling apart long enough to get it home. Sometimes we pulled over to the side of the road because another British car had broken down and was being repaired right there on the shoulder. We could talk about weird carburetor rebuilds (always with parts left over--ALWAYS), where the body was most likely to rust and when we had to pull the drain plugs out of the trunk to let the water drain out after the seals failed. We could trade tips on where to get parts and laugh about the parts we had had to order from England. In some instances the wave was a respectful acknowledgment of the other driver even having the damned thing on the road at all.

Owners of the twins have a similar shared experience, thankfully without the same level of unexpected failures. Not too long ago I bought a set of rims from another member here, and when I went to pick them up we talked about the cars for over an hour. You can compare notes on mods, plans for mods, weird quirks of the car (crickets!), weird reactions to the car, etc. I'll wave at another twin (if my spirited driving leaves a hand free) because I know that guy or girl shares all the secrets and irritations of owning this car. When you see me driving this car, you know a little something about me, and vice versa.

Corvette owners have that shared experience. Harley owners have that shared experience. Jeep Cherokee owners have it. Any fairly unique thing that has its own quirks is going to develop such a community.

Impreza owners may have that shared experience, but I don't know because I've never owned one and have never had any interest in owning one. What I do know is that I don't share their experience, and they don't share mine. I can talk with the owner of a twin for over an hour, but I have no idea what I would talk with a WRX owner about. We're not in the same community. I have no more in common with an Impreza owner than I do with someone who drives a Volkswagen. Waving at them would make me feel like a doofus, like that goofy kid in the back window of the school bus waving at all the cars like a moron while the other kids try to find somewhere else to sit.

wbradley 08-02-2014 12:52 PM

PS-if I saw a tastefully modded twin I might give the driver a nod. Lately I've seen a lot of completely stock ones. Talked with a guy with one at a Jerk place the other day and it was leased. That explains a lot of them, I bet.

Also, I see ones around that are total Rice-A-Roni. The other night there was one hanging out at the local parking lot car summer meeting hangout. I hated the wayy too dark tinted taillights. Looks cheap and poorly thought out. Immediately that's rice to me. No nod. Sad buts that's my reaction.

HeadBanger 08-02-2014 12:59 PM

My car is leased.
Does that make me less of an enthusiast or something? 0.9% interest makes a lot more sense than 5.9%


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