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nmctacticz 07-28-2014 08:21 PM

FRS lack of horsepower
 
I just purchased a 2015 scion FRS. Not whole lot has changed except for the upgraded suspension, better muffler and the shark fin as the antenna... also a few gadgets inside the car. I bought after market rims 18x8 front and 18x9 rear. We all know the FRS is a great car, looks amazing and it handles like glue on a track but that motor without a turbo WTF happened there!!! :bonk:

Im considering putting more power in this engine but would like to hear from you guys first.
What have you done to increase this cars performance...
Turbo, super charger, cold air intake, racing chip, exhaust etc etc
What did you get and how has it changed your cars Hp/performance??

FirestormFRS 07-28-2014 08:22 PM

Didn't put heavier wheels/tires on for one....just saying

nmctacticz 07-28-2014 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirestormFRS (Post 1870139)
Didn't put heavier wheels/tires on for one....just saying

Thanks tips... that wasnt my question though

strat61caster 07-28-2014 08:31 PM

Counter question before people pile on:

Why did you buy a car you thought was underpowered? This should not have been a surprise to you. There are many alternatives that deliver more 'performance' for your money.

Manic 07-28-2014 08:34 PM

Browse the forum for a while, there are countless threads on how to gain horsepower or how to improve handling. Your notion of 'performance' is very vague.

If all you want to know is how to improve 'performance', go to any website that has parts for the car. All of them will make your car 'perform' more. IMO, once you figure out what kind of performance you want, it'll be a whole lot easier to narrow it down.

nmctacticz 07-28-2014 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 1870157)
Counter question before people pile on:

Why did you buy a car you thought was underpowered? This should not have been a surprise to you. There are many alternatives that deliver more 'performance' for your money.

It wasn't a surprise to me and I love this car. I always knew the engine only had 200hp... I just think it can use a lil more power.

raven1231 07-28-2014 08:46 PM

Id say racing chip gave me the most gains

nmctacticz 07-28-2014 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic (Post 1870162)
Browse the forum for a while, there are countless threads on how to gain horsepower or how to improve handling. Your notion of 'performance' is very vague.

If all you want to know is how to improve 'performance', go to any website that has parts for the car. All of them will make your car 'perform' more. IMO, once you figure out what kind of performance you want, it'll be a whole lot easier to narrow it down.

Yes that is a vague question. I meant performance as in speed indeed. I also wonder if too much power will result in poor handling of the car which is something I would not want. I think 275Hp would be ideal for this engine but I could be wrong....

Hot Lava 07-28-2014 08:58 PM

I started out wanting. After spending months cruising this forum I've come to the conclusion that I'll be making no changes in the short term. Long term maybe an EL header and a tune. Try reading up before jumping in wallet first.

ZionsWrath 07-28-2014 09:09 PM

I'd recommend attending a track event before deciding on FI. I want(ed) FI too but after some track driving I realize there are better ways to spend my money and time right now. I.e. Learning, tires, brakes, track events :burnrubber:

Try it

jvincent 07-28-2014 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZionsWrath (Post 1870212)
I'd recommend attending a track event before deciding on FI. I want(ed) FI too but after some track driving I realize there are better ways to spend my money and time right now. I.e. Learning, tires, brakes, track events :burnrubber:

Try it

^^^ This.

The one "performance" upgrade I would recommend is on OFT.

Bang for the buck, it's probably the best upgrade you can do. Also, any idiot can do it. You don't need to be a wrench jockey.

Mr.Jay 07-28-2014 09:15 PM

I too want to say track and autox it first but lets be honest we spend more time on public roads than anywhere else so I would recommend headers and a tune to remove the dip and smooth out the power a bit. Not goin to hit your 275 but it will feel damn good compared to your stock power with larger wider wheels

HeadBanger 07-28-2014 09:20 PM

Do a 2J swap!

N1rve 07-28-2014 10:50 PM

You bought the wrong car... should of bougut a 370z or a mustang for power.

NWFRS 07-28-2014 10:57 PM

Stickers yo.

NayKu 07-29-2014 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NWFRS (Post 1870398)
Stickers yo.

and lots & lots of red paint.




No, but seriously, if you want more 'gains', bolt-ons, E85 tune, racing chip.
you'll probably get up to 220-240? Idk. i'm just guessing.:hitcomputer:

fang_gt86 07-29-2014 01:29 AM

V8 Mustang usually fix this problem.

adprokid 07-29-2014 01:30 AM

Do the seven and a half inch pistons man

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKb_bjn94iA"]Kid Talks About His V6 Mustang - YouTube[/ame]

VacantSky 07-29-2014 01:31 AM

SHUT UP AND COLOR

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...23/crayons.jpg

jimmillion 07-29-2014 02:12 AM

If you want a cheap fast power gain I'd recommend upgrading your punny axel back to a full headerback or replace the header all together! You'll be surprised how much difference it does for your butt dyno. Something 2.5-3" should be sufficient.

Ocean-Grown 86 07-29-2014 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adprokid (Post 1870597)
Do the seven and a half inch pistons man

Kid Talks About His V6 Mustang - YouTube

Don't forget that hot air intake

myusernameisrob 07-29-2014 04:20 AM

Shifting above 5500RPM on the twisties...

Best "Bang For Your Buck".

HeadBanger 07-29-2014 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoitsrob (Post 1870716)
Shifting above 5500RPM on the twisties...

Best "Bang For Your Buck".

I'd say above 7000RPM, but I guess that works too.

Buying skinnier, shittier tires would make it seem faster too due to lack of grip

husker741 07-29-2014 08:21 AM

Is the search button broken?

husker741 07-29-2014 08:22 AM

Edit: works fine for me!

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sluflyer06 07-29-2014 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmctacticz (Post 1870136)
I just purchased a 2015 scion FRS. Not whole lot has changed except for the upgraded suspension, better muffler and the shark fin as the antenna... also a few gadgets inside the car. I bought after market rims 18x8 front and 18x9 rear. We all know the FRS is a great car, looks amazing and it handles like glue on a track but that motor without a turbo WTF happened there!!! :bonk:

Im considering putting more power in this engine but would like to hear from you guys first.
What have you done to increase this cars performance...
Turbo, super charger, cold air intake, racing chip, exhaust etc etc
What did you get and how has it changed your cars Hp/performance??

I'd def ditch that staggered setup, the only thing you did by doing that is take a car that handles neutral and make it into a car that will naturally understeer. Staggered setups on any car that does not have a rear weight bias or absolutely needs the tire to put down a ton of power is always going to be a bad idea unless your only goal is looking cool.

rs999 07-29-2014 09:02 AM

OP, here you go Forced Induction forum

270 whp is the sweet spot for this car. Anything more than that would probably upset handling balance. Otherwise buy a mustang :(

Kronos 07-29-2014 10:09 AM

I want more power as well and I have two options figured out for myself that I thought I'd share with you

FI option: simply get some sort of fi. Supercharger or turbo. Whichever fits what you want better. Personally I already own an open flash tablet and they offer a discounted vortech supercharger for those who own a tablet already. They have off the shelf open flash tablet tunes for it as well so you would not have to spend a lot of money on tunes using another company. This is the fi option I would go with if I decide to do fi.

NA option: openflash tablet along with the open flash header. Those two together are just shy of $1000. Then you can run e85 on top of that at no extra cost as those tunes are included with the OFT. The header combined with e85 will get you an extra 30 or so hp. Then you can get a shorter final drive ratio. The combo of all of these together should make the car feel very snappy for na. This is what I plan on doing and I'm about halfway there.

Everyone has their own vision for their car. I thought id share mine as I might be of use to you.

CaptainSlow 07-29-2014 10:14 AM

Making more power is easy...you just throw money at the engine until it's as fast as you'd like it to be.

HyperTech 07-29-2014 10:14 AM

more hp yes...

but it need more torque at low rpm.

forced induction will fix that probleme.

that in the same time, you lose your warranty.

CaptainSlow 07-29-2014 10:29 AM

and a bit of reliability...and a good bit of fuel economy. As a general rule, a supercharger will give you more low-end torque, while a turbocharger will give you more high-end power

Chad86 07-29-2014 08:45 PM

The HKS V2 Supercharger looks promising...

:burnrubber:

Black Tire 07-29-2014 09:18 PM

What lack of horsepower? Read the thread from over a year ago here:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27951

Tromatic 07-29-2014 11:04 PM

A stock FR-S doesn't need anything. It's awesome already.

fatoni 07-29-2014 11:47 PM

if i had to say something about it, it would be that the frs is slow compared to its competitors and the car market in general but not slow compared to my (and more than likely your) driving ability.

nmctacticz 07-30-2014 05:54 PM

I appreciate all the comments some of them very useful, however Im still deciding what I will do to add some power to this babe.
I just got my windows tinted today and the car is looking great... I cant wait for the next upgrade :burnrubber:

Tromatic 07-30-2014 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmctacticz (Post 1874027)
I appreciate all the comments some of them very useful, however Im still deciding what I will do to add some power to this babe.
I just got my windows tinted today and the car is looking great... I cant wait for the next upgrade :burnrubber:

Open Flash Tablet, Open Flash Header and then a Phantom SC. I have the first one and am planning on the other two. No easier, user and car friendly mods out there that yield as much, IMO. Having said that, the FR-S does not "need" more power. It's way, way more than the sum of it's stock parts.

raven1231 07-30-2014 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 1874157)
Open Flash Tablet, Open Flash Header and then a Phantom SC. I have the first one and am planning on the other two. No easier, user and car friendly mods out there that yield as much, IMO. Having said that, the FR-S does not "need" more power. It's way, way more than the sum of it's stock parts.

This! Best bang for your buck :)

airjonny 07-30-2014 07:24 PM

Reliability, Power, Cheap. Pick 2


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