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fayth22 05-27-2012 05:00 PM

What number do you have?
 
How to tell what issue number your FR-S is?

Dadhawk 05-27-2012 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fayth22 (Post 227621)
How to tell what issue number your FR-S is?

Not sure what you mean? Are you referring to the 1st86, the car in general, or something else.

In the case of the 1st86, there really isn't any way of telling which one you were unless we compared delivery dates, I suppose. We could use the number on the CF Frame we received, which would make me "3 of 86", but I know there were others that took delivery before me.

On all the cars, you could use the VIN (last 5 digits), but that really doesn't mean much except that you picked a color that was in a certain part of the manufacturing order.

Moto-P 05-27-2012 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 227655)
Not sure what you mean? Are you referring to the 1st86, the car in general, or something else.

In the case of the 1st86, there really isn't any way of telling which one you were unless we compared delivery dates, I suppose. We could use the number on the CF Frame we received, which would make me "3 of 86", but I know there were others that took delivery before me.

On all the cars, you could use the VIN (last 5 digits), but that really doesn't mean much except that you picked a color that was in a certain part of the manufacturing order.

Yes, VIN# is the order it was produced at the factory, and the only real order to the sequence of the car as it left the production line. Keep in mind that cars that went to Japan and other parts have a different series of numbers so it isn't per similar frame. VIN Order only applies to your locale and is in two sets in the USA, between Subaru branded BRZ and Scion branded FRS. FHI would have EXACT order of production globally for accounting and QC's sake, but really isn't an important information since it isn't like an Lexus LFA which are made to order per customer.

As for the First86, our cars were not made to order either and depending on the location of delivery, color choice, and transmission, it was allocated to our dealership from the nearest and closest match that was part of the original port shipment of many other cars, so VIN numbers are pretty random as well. I was the 2nd delivery of the First 86, the 86th member to be selected as alternate, and my car is VIN 00348 because that was the whiteout in AT that I ordered which happened to be closest and assigned to the dealership I chose to have it delivered. Carbon frame and pen we got from Scion USA as part of First 86 is random too, and is only according to the Five Axis Designs that made the frames, and Scion HQ staff that assigned one to each customer in the 86, but not in delivery sequence.

The First 86 delivery does mark the FIRST car that was delivered from each respective dealership though... (unless the selected buyer didn't purchase the assigned car for one reason or another.)

Dadhawk 05-27-2012 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Moto-P (Post 227678)
Yes, VIN# is the order it was produced at the factory, and the only real order to the sequence of the car as it left the production line. Keep in mind that cars that went to Japan and other parts have a different series of numbers so it isn't per similar frame. VIN Order only applies to your locale and is in two sets in the USA, between Subaru branded BRZ and Scion branded FRS. FHI would have EXACT order of production globally for accounting and QC's sake, but really isn't an important information since it isn't like an Lexus LFA which are made to order per customer.

As for the First86, our cars were not made to order either and depending on the location of delivery, color choice, and transmission, it was allocated to our dealership from the nearest and closest match that was part of the original port shipment of many other cars, so VIN numbers are pretty random as well. I was the 2nd delivery of the First 86, the 86th member to be selected as alternate, and my car is VIN 00348 because that was the whiteout in AT that I ordered which happened to be closest and assigned to the dealership I chose to have it delivered.

Agreed on all. And to even more complicate it, even though you know you were number 86, that doesn't fully "stick" since there were 86'ers that didn't buy their cars and others bought them from stock rather than the car being passed to an alternate. So, in theory, there really aren't 86 1st86ers unless you now pull these fortunate few into the fold.

fayth22 05-27-2012 07:17 PM

Just trying to find out where mine stands production wise. Its a white out with vin 1142

Dadhawk 05-27-2012 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fayth22 (Post 227723)
Just trying to find out where mine stands production wise. Its a white out with vin 1142

Gotcha. Bottom line you've got a early first year production unit. If they do make 10K this year, you are in the first 11.42% of Scion units. Mine is 274.

That said, there are more than likely multiple 1142 or 274 units if all you look at is VIN. As Moto-P said, there's a lot of factors outside of VIN to consider to see where you fall in the grand scheme of things.

Moto-P 05-27-2012 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fayth22 (Post 227723)
Just trying to find out where mine stands production wise. Its a white out with vin 1142

Well it means your FRS is the 1142nd one to roll off the production line, as VIN number does follow order of assembly, as a Scion FRS, produced for the USA, and inclusive of the first few production vehicles Toyota corporate decided to keep for various reasons, whether museum storage or PR, marketing use. This does not include though the handful of the Pre-Production units which do not have VIN numbers and were mostly hand-assembled for previews and testing in final form, as well as calibration of plant tooling, and PR firms and aftermarket R&D.

But for all practical purposes of collection or identity, it is indeed the 1142nd car made in the assembly line, and shipped for general consumer registered car as Scion FRS, USA model (I think includes Canada and certain parts of the world like Guam and Puerto Rico that also get US-DOT certified vehicles. And as such it will be valid to say you have the 1142nd FRS in the USA, by manufacture sequence, and of the cars that are allowed to be sold and registered in the USA.

Grubby 05-27-2012 08:39 PM

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My VIN was 00208, an Argento FR-S with auto trans, received FR-S license frame plate #58/86.

Dadhawk 05-27-2012 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Moto-P (Post 227766)
...But for all practical purposes of collection or identity, it is indeed the 1142nd car made in the assembly line, and shipped for general consumer registered car as Scion FRS, USA model (I think includes Canada and certain parts of the world like Guam and Puerto Rico that also get US-DOT certified vehicles....

So, does that mean that regardless of all the digits before it (transmission code, etc), the last 5 digits are indeed sequential within the things that make it a North American Scion or BRZ? For example, there is not an 1142 that is an AT and an 1142 that is a MT?

Dang Lad 05-27-2012 08:53 PM

# 312 here. Asphalt MT FR-S

Hawaiian 05-27-2012 10:18 PM

don't forget the numbers are duplicated for automatic versus manual transmissions

Davyator 05-27-2012 10:20 PM

63/86
 
I'm 63 of 86!

clayrush 05-27-2012 10:36 PM

I know the date my car was built. 4/4/2012
I don't have my vin number, but on some paperwork my dealer gave me a month ago it has a serial number of D1701683, so maybe 1683?

AustinTCLN 05-27-2012 10:58 PM

I got vin #147 & 12/86 cf plate frame & pen, whiteout manual. I remember looking at the vins on the cars we test drove in CA and I thought they were like 110 to 120 or so

MannyO 05-27-2012 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by clayrush (Post 227914)
...I don't have my vin number, but on some paperwork my dealer gave me a month ago it has a serial number of D1701683, so maybe 1683?

Correct :thumbsup:

6MT Transmission, right?

VZ86 05-28-2012 12:52 AM

First86 here. The original Whiteout AT assigned to me was in the 300's, but after discovering a paint blemish on the hood, they swapped it out w/ one whose VIN broke 1000. While it would be cool to have kept the lower number, I actually feel a bit better regarding the build quality of my later-manufactured car. It means that hopefully any early kinks in the assembly process got ironed out.

Symbiont 05-28-2012 06:43 AM

Last 3 of VIN is 286... but I have a BRZ. Not sure if this applies to this thread.

That being said, it was pretty damn cool to see '86' as the last 2 numbers of my VIN. :thumbsup:

Draco-REX 05-28-2012 08:52 AM

US BRZ 195 here. I'm not convinced the sequential numbers are per transmission. The digit after the year(D) is plant code not transmission.

Now if only it would show up. :P BRZs east of me have been delivered.

mattles 05-28-2012 08:57 AM

Ive got Vehicle #500, manf date of March something (forgot, but its on the door jamb somewhere) which is cool enough for me.

civicdrivr 05-28-2012 04:17 PM

#180, Asphalt 6MT FR-S

I havent received my CF license plate yet, so I can't speculate on what # I am in the First 86.

bucket 05-28-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Moto-P (Post 227678)
I was the 2nd delivery of the First 86, the 86th member to be selected as alternate, and my car is VIN 00348 because that was the whiteout in AT that I ordered which happened to be closest and assigned to the dealership I chose to have it delivered.

Whoah, wait a second....Moto-san bought an AT?

clayrush 05-28-2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MannyO (Post 227976)
Correct :thumbsup:

6MT Transmission, right?

Yep it is a red manual. And I am going nuts because I know the car is sitting at the dock one town over from me.

roddy 05-28-2012 09:07 PM

#2955, Ultramarine 6MT FR-S.

Dark_Angle 05-28-2012 09:09 PM

1081 firestorm mt

AzFranz 06-03-2012 01:13 PM

After reading all this my brains fried...to I say Eff it..we got ours and that's what matters, but to keep this is thread rules and regs my last 4 is 1848 ultramarine mt.

MVJ1975 06-03-2012 01:39 PM

I'm #1205, Ultramarine AT.

Zagmeister 06-03-2012 03:10 PM

Ultramarine MT #2579

chate 06-03-2012 04:43 PM

1818

clevrname 06-04-2012 02:48 PM

#1059

Firestorm 6MT.

Production date of 3/23/12 (I work for Toyota so I have access to production date info.)

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Homura 06-04-2012 04:04 PM

I feel really good -- #0422, mt ultramarine

Not quite a first 86, but still pretty rad I think.

Hayashi 06-04-2012 04:41 PM

I have 0093, Raven 6MT

civicdrivr 06-05-2012 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by civicdrivr (Post 228564)
#180, Asphalt 6MT FR-S

I havent received my CF license plate yet, so I can't speculate on what # I am in the First 86.

Got my frame and pen yesterday, #16 of 86.

eikond 06-05-2012 05:31 PM

I'm #133 - a BRZ.

I'm almost 100% sure that AT and MT are in the same sequence. They have a digit in the first half of the VIN code that signifies transmission type.

I think BRZ's and FRS's are all in the same sequence of VIN production numbers. Of course, I can't prove this until I see an FRS and BRZ with the same final 4 digits.. My main reason for this theory is that we've seen BRZ owners near or over 1000 already. I don't think Subaru has sold 1000 BRZ's in the US already though.. Last report was May sales of 271 cars..

5hairpins 06-05-2012 05:38 PM

738
Asphalt MT

Suiris 06-05-2012 09:24 PM

#444 Raven MT

HotLeopardMama 06-05-2012 09:33 PM

#2803 Whiteout AT

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DarrenDriven 06-14-2012 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Moto-P (Post 227678)
I was the 2nd delivery of the First 86, the 86th member to be selected as alternate

Hmmm... I was under the impression that our member FRSfan111 was the 2nd delivery on 5/9. Just out of curiosity, what day did you receive your car?

Calidrifter 06-14-2012 04:11 AM

I believe he got his either at Vegas or like a day or two after.


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