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rinnamon 07-11-2014 02:14 PM

FR-S and the clutch is slipping. Where can I get it fixed in Cincinnati?
 
So I just bought an FR-S with 15000 miles on it and the clutch is slipping. I'm bummed because the dealer I took it to didn't check for that and I wasn't smart enough to test it myself.

Ghost 86 07-13-2014 11:50 AM

Well if it only has 15k on it it should be covered some how or go to that dealer and get them to do something since you just bought it. As for shops to get it done call turn in concepts they are right here in cincinnati

raven1231 07-13-2014 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghost 86 (Post 1843894)
Well if it only has 15k on it it should be covered some how or go to that dealer and get them to do something since you just bought it. As for shops to get it done call turn in concepts they are right here in cincinnati

I don't think he bought it from the dealer just took it there to get looked over. The clutch usually isn't covered as it's a wear item. My favorite performance shop is IPS in Columbus but is you want something closer zerolift should be ok. They have since changed their name however, I will find it for you.

raven1231 07-13-2014 11:59 AM

as for the crickets the are covered, they will put a new fuel pump in, however from what I have heard they will come back.

Ghost 86 07-13-2014 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by raven1231 (Post 1843906)
I don't think he bought it from the dealer just took it there to get looked over. The clutch usually isn't covered as it's a wear item. My favorite performance shop is IPS in Columbus but is you want something closer zerolift should be ok. They have since changed their name however, I will find it for you.

I would advise no on zero lift they are not a good place to look. But anyway turn in concepts is a subaru specialist and they have their own brz. Any place but zero lift lol

raven1231 07-13-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost 86 (Post 1843912)
I would advise no on zero lift they are not a good place to look. But anyway turn in concepts is a subaru specialist and they have their own brz. Any place but zero lift lol

I had a horrible experience there as well but had heard other people say it was ok. I figured I just had a bad experience....glad to know I'm not alone.

Ghost 86 07-13-2014 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by raven1231 (Post 1843954)
I had a horrible experience there as well but had heard other people say it was ok. I figured I just had a bad experience....glad to know I'm not alone.

I had a bad experience with my 240 they used it to deliver stuff in Indiana after doing the swap and kept delaying pick up then tried to charge me more. Maybe they've gotten better but I'd rather go to turn in concepts super nice guys and helpful

raven1231 07-13-2014 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost 86 (Post 1844089)
I had a bad experience with my 240 they used it to deliver stuff in Indiana after doing the swap and kept delaying pick up then tried to charge me more. Maybe they've gotten better but I'd rather go to turn in concepts super nice guys and helpful

Yeah they kept my t67 3000gt for 6 months couldn't figure out what was wrong with it and when I got there were using it as a bench...took it to IPs and they fixed it in less than a day

Ghost 86 07-13-2014 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by raven1231 (Post 1844155)
Yeah they kept my t67 3000gt for 6 months couldn't figure out what was wrong with it and when I got there were using it as a bench...took it to IPs and they fixed it in less than a day

Ha that happened to my friends fd rx7 it was supposed to get a rb26 swap but just got used as a shelf too lol. Real car guys

White64Goat 07-13-2014 09:04 PM

Most used cars have (used to have?) a 3 month, 3,000 mile warranty depending on when you bought it. If it's still within that time frame I'd take it back to them first and go from there. Did you test drive it first?

$1,200 ???? What's the breakdown on that for parts & labor. That sounds way high......

rinnamon 07-13-2014 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost 86 (Post 1843894)
Well if it only has 15k on it it should be covered some how or go to that dealer and get them to do something since you just bought it. As for shops to get it done call turn in concepts they are right here in cincinnati

Thanks Ghost. Turn in Concepts was recommended to me by someone in person this week as well. Good to hear that they are good folks to go to.

As for the dealer, I contacted them and left a message. I asked for a big discount on a clutch replacement but not because I bought it there. I bought it from a private individual but I took it there for a pre-purchase vehicle inspection at the Joseph toyota/scion in Dayton (chosen because somewhat close to the seller) and it turns out that all they did was look at the brakes, fluid levels, and the typical things to check for when performing an oil change. I thought they actually did a more thorough job that one would expect when asking for such a pre-sale inspection... etc etc etc....yadda yadda... I filed with the BBB after I got a pretty rude response on the phone. In the end I trusted them too much and didn't know the right questions to ask the dealer....Hey, at least I know how to test the clutch the next time I buy a car. It'll probably be electric by that point anyway, so perhaps its moot.

Anyway, thanks Ghost.

rinnamon 07-13-2014 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by raven1231 (Post 1843908)
as for the crickets the are covered, they will put a new fuel pump in, however from what I have heard they will come back.

So the crickets really are just an annoyance then? If they are just going to come back and they don't impact performance, then I'm not really inclined to have them change it.

Mad1723 07-14-2014 02:03 AM

Our clutch is one of the softest one you'll find in a sports car. If you think that it's stiff, you haven't driven that many cars. I've driven my friend's M3 and to drive it is the equivalent of leg day but for only one leg.

Also, while you're replacing the clutch, you might as well get an upgraded Exedy or something like that. They are often priced similar to the OEM ones, but offer better torque ratings.

Just my 2 cents

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raven1231 07-14-2014 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mad1723 (Post 1844758)
Our clutch is one of the softest one you'll find in a sports car. If you think that it's stiff, you haven't driven that many cars. I've driven my friend's M3 and to drive it is the equivalent of leg day but for only one leg.

Also, while you're replacing the clutch, you might as well get an upgraded Exedy or something like that. They are often priced similar to the OEM ones, but offer better torque ratings.

Just my 2 cents

:thumbsup:

This! except the exedy will likely be stiffer and yes crickets are nothing more than annoying

AlanLGuy 07-14-2014 08:50 AM

FR-S and the clutch is slipping. Where can I get it fixed in Cincinnati?
 
If you daily drive your FR-S or plan on autocrossing it then just go with a stock replacement clutch. Aftermarket clutches will likely have a stiffer pedal which will make driving in traffic less comfortable, unless you plan on adding boost then the stock clutch is more than adequate and if driven correctly will last much longer than a heavy aftermarket replacement.

The person who sold it to you probably didn't know how to drive a manual transmission worth a crap. Anytime you buy a used manual trans car there's very little way of knowing whether the clutch was babied or abused by the previous owner.

My first car, a 2000 Celica GT-S had the stock clutch go about 2,000 miles after I bought it, though it admittedly had 145,000 on it by that time. During the test drive I took it to redline a couple times and did some hard shifts (much to the chagrin of the sellers father) but never felt it slip, you just never know when it's going to give up.

In the future though don't buy a used car without taking it through its paces, I can understand that a seller may not want everybody and their brother beating on a car they are trying to sell, but as a buyer you should also be certain that you are getting a car in good mechanical shape. At the very least make them wind the car out and keep your eye glued to the tach to spot signs of slipping.

sluflyer06 07-14-2014 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mad1723 (Post 1844758)
Our clutch is one of the softest one you'll find in a sports car. If you think that it's stiff, you haven't driven that many cars. I've driven my friend's M3 and to drive it is the equivalent of leg day but for only one leg.

Also, while you're replacing the clutch, you might as well get an upgraded Exedy or something like that. They are often priced similar to the OEM ones, but offer better torque ratings.

Just my 2 cents

:thumbsup:

There's zero reason to upgrade a clutch unless your planning on FI, all you'll do is put more wear and shock load on the gears and driveline. This is one of the few times upgrading for the sake of upgrading really doesn't pay off.

Mad1723 07-14-2014 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sluflyer06 (Post 1844983)
There's zero reason to upgrade a clutch unless your planning on FI, all you'll do is put more wear and shock load on the gears and driveline. This is one of the few times upgrading for the sake of upgrading really doesn't pay off.

Depends on the long term plans for the vehicle. If FI is planned, then upgrading is a good idea while you're already there. Otherwise, yes, you could stay with OEM clutch, but at the price it was last time I checked, you can get a good small upgrade that won't kill your left foot and that could be good for future uses.

sluflyer06 07-14-2014 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mad1723 (Post 1845045)
Depends on the long term plans for the vehicle. If FI is planned, then upgrading is a good idea while you're already there. Otherwise, yes, you could stay with OEM clutch, but at the price it was last time I checked, you can get a good small upgrade that won't kill your left foot and that could be good for future uses.

I don't think FI is in the cards for him/her, more the hypermiling type.

Mad1723 07-14-2014 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sluflyer06 (Post 1845066)
I don't think FI is in the cards for him/her, more the hypermiling type.

Then OEM will be fine =)

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rinnamon 08-06-2014 08:54 AM

I just got it back from the dealer. Feels like a different car and the clutch is far less stiff (strangely). I feel pretty dumb that I didn't test drive a new one at a dealer before buying used. I would recommend doing so unless you have a friend with an FRS / BRZ.
The dealer who originally inspected the car (Joseph Airport Scion) ended up fixing the clutch at $700 (I asked for 600, they wanted $800 after discount.

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rinnamon 08-06-2014 09:04 AM

Oh. One more question. This was happening both before replacing the clutch as well as after. When I have the pedal on the floor and I put it in first, when the tranny goes into first (meaning, as the stick feels like it is passing through the door), the car gives me a very slight push forward, like it catches just a little bit. The shifter knob feels like it hits a door and then is allowed into first gear. It is as it is passing through the door that I feel this kind of nudge. Does anyone else ever feel this either? Unsurprisingly, I've never felt this in another car. I think it is less pronounced if I wait for about 2-3 seconds with my foot on the floor before shifting out of neutral. Typically I push the pedal to the floor and then out it into first about a quarter or half second afterward.


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Gords_zenith 08-07-2014 01:11 AM

The brakes IMO are pretty good, meaning they aren't over boosted (grabby) or grandma drivers. Plus, I've noticed that once they get some heat into them, they grab pretty good. Also, you should look up bedding your brakes and clutch, to get optimal life out of them, especially if the previous owner beat on it.

As for the putting it into 1st gear at a stop, give it a extra split second or so before selecting 1st after depressing the clutch. This will allow the input shaft of the transmission to slow down from the engines idle speed as it will come to an immediate stop if you don't wait, which is what gives you that slight jerk. This is normal!

And most importantly, congratulations on your purchase, and honestly just keep it maintained and you'll be fine. Don't worry about not checking this or that, it's all part of the process, use it as a learning experience.

radroach 08-07-2014 10:17 AM

The brakes are good, on my car. Lots of good response, though it is kinda soft.

The kick you get when putting it in 1st gear is known as the "rear thud" and is normal in this car.

This car does shift better above 3000 rpms, and is notchy below that. But it seems something might be a little out of whack on yours.

kombatlion 08-07-2014 12:16 PM

Well my friends I have the same problem 4th gear grinds evry time I put it over 4000 revs... I have no warranty due to Turbo Kit I will be taking it to the shop hopefully next week I let you guys now. The shop have fix 2 more FRS with trans problems and they believe is the fork not the schincros but we will see!

They are very good and have experience with FRS trans so I will let you guys know!

Scenic Driver 08-08-2014 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rinnamon (Post 1884641)
I have to push the brakes much harder than on other cars

Bleed the brakes, change the fluid too while your at it


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