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DeliciousTuning 07-09-2014 12:56 AM

Wasp Composites Chassis Mounted Splitter
 
Hey Folks!

Recently I've had a chance to work with Wasp Composites, a company well known in the S2000 community for crafting high quality, chassis mounted splitters for both race and street applications. Turns out, they needed an FR-S for development on this platform and I had one to spare. The project is in its developmental stages for now and moving quickly along, but I thought I'd just start this thread with some examples of their previous work. All chassis mounted splitters made by Wasp are extremely strong and can handle well over the already substantial downforce they produce. I should have more updates on this throughout the week.

http://i57.tinypic.com/14bt47b.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/w6v03s.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/vz7e4x.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/2mxibsw.jpg


Some completed photos!

http://i59.tinypic.com/2cdj0v9.jpg

http://i57.tinypic.com/2s7jl77.jpg

We are now ready to start taking orders. MSRP will be $600 shipped, (huge box), the first FIVE orders will be $550 shipped. You also have the option of adding a small Kevlar strip on the front underside of the splitter for $25, or getting a full kevlar bottom for $50. Every order will include the splitter, 2 pairs of support rods, all necessary installation hardware and a clear film on top of the splitter for protection against the elements.

Please PM me for ordering information. For now, here's some more photos.


http://i59.tinypic.com/245k1a0.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/2uemr79.jpg

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

ATL BRZ 07-09-2014 12:12 PM

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-26939...ur-Kh-cQis.gif

orangeblue 07-09-2014 11:09 PM

MotoIQ chassis mounted the APR carbon splitter. Used similar mounts to the white S2k shown above but with an additional central mounting point. http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticl...nd-Seibon.aspx

DeliciousTuning 07-09-2014 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangeblue (Post 1838272)
MotoIQ chassis mounted the APR carbon splitter. Used similar mounts to the white S2k shown above but with an additional central mounting point. http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticl...nd-Seibon.aspx

Motoiq's FRS actually uses a one-off piece made by Afterhours Automotive. As far as I know, and I have inquired on this piece as well, it was one off and is not being considered for actual production.

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

orangeblue 07-10-2014 08:20 PM

The rear splitter was from Afterhours, but it makes no sense that they would use an Afterhours front splitter and then blur out the logo of a sponsor in the pictures. http://photos.motoiq.com/MotoIQ/Proj...JEF_8091-L.jpg

xsuperbeex 07-11-2014 12:19 AM

D: I just bought my apr..

DeliciousTuning 07-11-2014 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangeblue (Post 1840072)
The rear splitter was from Afterhours, but it makes no sense that they would use an Afterhours front splitter and then blur out the logo of a sponsor in the pictures. http://photos.motoiq.com/MotoIQ/Proj...JEF_8091-L.jpg

Perhaps I am blind but to what logo are you referring to? That red logo on the splitter is the after hours automotive logo....I do not mean to be rude but there is not a single place in that article that even so slightly references APR in any way. Not to mention even the shape of the splitter on Motoiq's vehicle is different than the shape of APR's splitter, which has more pronounced "fangs". Two completely different products, for two different markets. To be entirely honest, APR's splitter is little more than a showpiece being as flexible as it is and having it mounted to nothing other than the bumper cover.


Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

DeliciousTuning 07-13-2014 05:17 PM

As an update, I'm picking my car up tonight. The splitter has been completed and I'll have photos for all of you either tonight or tomorrow :) I'm excited!

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

DeliciousTuning 07-13-2014 05:21 PM

As a small update, here's some photos of the splitter OFF the car compared to APR's offering for the Evo X (Sorry we didn't have an APR FR-S splitter on hand)

Wasp Splitter with Doge Load Test:

http://i59.tinypic.com/28iyii8.jpg

Wasp Splitter with Doge & Bryan, owner of Wasp:

http://i60.tinypic.com/f2sdb4.jpg

APR Splitter with just a 30lb weight:

http://i57.tinypic.com/16as6eo.jpg

Sorry the photos aren't very good, I took them with a potato :)

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

Freeman 07-13-2014 06:34 PM

Sold^ when will it be ready to buy

DeliciousTuning 07-13-2014 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freeman (Post 1844209)
Sold^ when will it be ready to buy

In approximately a week :) Built to order.

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

Octoman 07-13-2014 08:06 PM

Sold as well, what's price like? Pmd.

DeliciousTuning 07-13-2014 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Octoman (Post 1844314)
Sold as well, what's price like? Pmd.

I'm waiting on Wasp Composites to give me the final answer on price and see if perhaps we can work out a group buy for the initial five buyers or something like that.

P.S. - Picked her up today. The splitter is beautiful and I'll upload some pictures to the main post soon. You can seriously feel it above 60mph; steering gets tighter and the front end starts to hunker down. All in all the car feels very planted at higher speeds now and wanders a bit less.

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

Lawnik 07-14-2014 12:02 AM

Sounds great, can't wait for pics. Would be interested in GB :clap:

PRORICAN 07-14-2014 12:17 AM

In for price!

Andrew360 07-15-2014 11:11 PM

Keep us updated. I'm very interested as well.

DeliciousTuning 07-16-2014 02:24 AM

Trying to work with Bryan over at Wasp at the possibility of setting up a group buy for the first bunch of interested buyers here. Stay tuned folks :)

Did I mention side skirts are on their way and near completion as well?

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

Mad1723 07-16-2014 03:02 AM

Subbed, need more info on this :)

continuecrushing 07-16-2014 03:05 PM

nice!

Local too...

GREDDYGT/86 07-18-2014 06:48 PM

I would love more information on this.
In for group buy if price is right.

Lawnik 07-24-2014 12:18 AM

@sales@delicioustuning.com

Any updates?

FRSfan111 07-24-2014 01:19 AM

Honestly if I hadn't already been rocking my apr splitter for a year now, I'd be all over this. Mount points look super effective and Convient.

eddieEndo 07-24-2014 03:25 AM

subd

Andrew360 07-30-2014 03:45 PM

Any updates?

d.liang 07-30-2014 10:12 PM

Subd

Creole 08-07-2014 11:24 PM

Would this still be effective with a front lip like the Tamon Design GT3? Or would having both be redundant?

slicktop 08-11-2014 09:51 PM

Updates, I'm looking for some aero parts.

cdrazic93 08-12-2014 05:49 AM

Awwwwww MANNN why can't I get picked for testing products :cry:

cdrazic93 08-12-2014 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creole (Post 1888131)
Would this still be effective with a front lip like the Tamon Design GT3? Or would having both be redundant?

Redundant. Front lips are like splitter wannabe's.

DAEMANO 08-12-2014 06:58 AM

+1

DeliciousTuning 08-13-2014 12:12 AM

Having a lip in addition wouldn't have any additional benefit over the splitter, but may complicate mounting. This would be determined on a lip by lip basis...if you will.

Sorry I haven't updated this thread lately, Wasp has been caught up with some local noise complaints. Apparently making carbon splitters during daytime hours is loud? *sarcasm*

Giving it some time, I wouldn't want to take any orders that can't be filled at the moment regardless :)

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

Creole 08-13-2014 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sales@delicioustuning.com (Post 1896680)
Having a lip in addition wouldn't have any additional benefit over the splitter, but may complicate mounting. This would be determined on a lip by lip basis...if you will.

Sorry I haven't updated this thread lately, Wasp has been caught up with some local noise complaints. Apparently making carbon splitters during daytime hours is loud? *sarcasm*

Giving it some time, I wouldn't want to take any orders that can't be filled at the moment regardless :)

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning


Do you know if they are going to offer different "levels" for the splitter, like how they do for the s2k?

DeliciousTuning 08-13-2014 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creole (Post 1896694)
Do you know if they are going to offer different "levels" for the splitter, like how they do for the s2k?

Yes, I believe he will offer a street version as well, in addition to a "lip protector" style lip.

CSG Mike 08-13-2014 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sales@delicioustuning.com (Post 1844156)
As a small update, here's some photos of the splitter OFF the car compared to APR's offering for the Evo X (Sorry we didn't have an APR FR-S splitter on hand)

Wasp Splitter with Doge Load Test:

http://i59.tinypic.com/28iyii8.jpg

Wasp Splitter with Doge & Bryan, owner of Wasp:

http://i60.tinypic.com/f2sdb4.jpg

APR Splitter with just a 30lb weight:

http://i57.tinypic.com/16as6eo.jpg

Sorry the photos aren't very good, I took them with a potato :)

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

Let's not forget that the load being placed on that splitter material is not the direction of the load being generated by the splitter ;)

The Wasp stuff is definitely strong, but I haven't heard of any APR splitters snappnig on the freeway or track either.

final gear 08-14-2014 05:57 PM

You might want to compare race application to race application. Here is APR's Nomex dry carbon honeycomb composite splitter material. Nomex honeycomb is fire retardant and also FIA approved material for race cars.

These photos are taken from their Instagram : http://instagram.com/aprperformance

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho...24494224_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...32825257_o.jpg
http://photos-f.ak.instagram.com/hph...34152340_n.jpghttp://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/h...64293327_n.jpg

slicktop 08-14-2014 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by final gear (Post 1899873)
You might want to compare race application to race application. Here is APR's Nomex dry carbon honeycomb composite splitter material. Nomex honeycomb is fire retardant and also FIA approved material for race cars.

These photos are taken from their Instagram :

Lets be serious... those honeycombs are ridiculous $$$. Not even the same league.

DeliciousTuning 08-21-2014 04:32 PM

Updating first post with pricing and availability :)

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

Jonsey 08-21-2014 05:50 PM

Very interesting. Do we have any more information on it yet, including weight, drag force decrease, downforce increase (both front and rear) and aerodynamic balance?

Also, what is the mounting process like? I am assuming holes have ot be drilled in the crash beam for the four mounting rods, any other holes that have to be drilled?

DeliciousTuning 08-23-2014 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonsey (Post 1910890)
Very interesting. Do we have any more information on it yet, including weight, drag force decrease, downforce increase (both front and rear) and aerodynamic balance?

Also, what is the mounting process like? I am assuming holes have ot be drilled in the crash beam for the four mounting rods, any other holes that have to be drilled?

As far as weight goes, since you're removing the underpaneling in front of the metal skid plate, it just about evens out. I'd say, if anything, there could be a pound or two variance max counting the support rods.

With that out of the way we do not have access to a wind tunnel, and quite honestly CFD analysis can only tell so much. For example, it does not account for any flex in the system. This splitter will not flex as it is chassis mounted, however I do recall another FR-S specific splitter that did have a CFD analysis done and it did show some improvement. What it didn't account for was the fact that it was mounted to the bumper cover alone, and any downforce it was creating was merely pulling down said cover, not actually pulling the chassis to the ground. So no, I could not reasonably give any specific numbers without it being a complete guess, as a wind tunnel is the only real way to get such numbers.

Finally, by feel alone, I can tell you that if you're not going to be beating the hell out of the car at the track, it will not be absolutely necessary to add a wing. It would help a lot, but under those conditions it does not upset the balance *too* much. If you are going to track the car, especially on a higher speed track, the balance will be shifted enough to the point that a good wing will become necessary.

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

Rosticles 08-24-2014 01:04 AM

Do the four the support rods clear the plastic bumper without modification? Do the side supports clear fog lights, washer reservoir, or possible coolers?


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