Asphalt FR-S pics
 

My asphalt fr-s... Hopefully I can pick it up next week.

Rob

Nice car! Awesome man. I'm glad you got the car.

But why wouldn't they let you take it home now? There is a sold sign on it.

bneale

:clap:Congrats!
That's my color also. Nice choice, looks great! Thanks for the pics:thanks:

There's a snafu with the paperwork and NO FR-S in Canada are being sold until it's corrected. So for now it's a shelf queen... lol

Probably one of the very few that actually got delivered so far.

Rob

Ahh the stupid manual problem. Damn lawyers!!!

I don't know too much about this problem but from what I've heard, its something with the user manual being written wrong or printed wrong. I'm guessing they're just holding everything up for legal issues.

I dunno if you can do this or not, but when you do get to take the car home I'd love to see some pics of the car in the sun. In these photos, the light is a little too flat.

bneale

I keep thinking to myself why would anyone buy an FR-S when for a little more money the BRZ has so many extra features.

Heated seats
Decent Nav Unit
HID headlights
Better seat material (leather trimmed)
Fog lights
Dual zone climate control
Push button start
Spoiler
LED lights (FR-S rear is LED though)

The climate controls and heated seats I know I will miss.. The trouble is that the local Subie dealership has a very bad reputation so dealing there is out of the question. So FR-S it is....

Personally I prefer the pure driving simplicity of the FR-S

*Heated Seats-Lived this long without them, enjoy them in the family car, but no big deal to me if not there
*Decent NAV unit-Myself, can stand them! I have my smart phone if I need to look up where I'm going, but even then I rarely use that, since I tend to pre-map anywhere I'm going and commit it to memory. Hate something beeping at me where and when to turn!
*Better seat material(leather trimmed)-Meh, I'm a cloth seat person, plus these days it's rarely real leather anyway, rather it's "leatherette" ie;VINYL!!
*Fog lights-Doesn't even register with me as they're almost always useless, at least the factory ones.
*Duel Zone Climate Control-Sorry but simplicity wins out there for me. 3 simple knobs always beats these electronic climate gizmos hands down everytime!
*Push Button Start-Whatever
*Spoiler-Ugly! Ruins the clean shape of the car.
*LED lights-Cool feature, but like the heated seats, nice to have but hardly a deal breaker


Anyway that Asphalt is one sweet looking colour! I'm having a tough time deciding between that or Whiteout when I get around to getting a FR-S

The red bolsters doesn't look too bad on the DGM

It's just personal preference. BRZ front is fugly to me and is a deal breaker on that point alone, but if others like it that's cool. :happy0180:

I agree that I don't like the spoiler either, maybe a small 'lip' would be ok though. This particular FR-S I have had the opportunity to take out by myself for a 30 minute test drive (actually I have about an hour in the car) and it's an AT. I did not try the shift levers as the transmission in 'sport' (even normal) mode is extremely responsive and a lot of fun. This is unlike any other AT I have ever driven and I was quite pleased with it. While an MT is fun for a while, when you are in the middle of winter and it's bumper to bumper traffic the novelty soon wears thin.. I found that out with my RSX-S.. As for color... As for colors, the FR-S certainly wins in that area with a lot more to select from. Too bad the cars couldn't change color with a push of a button... :)

Rob

I have many issues with this post, but I will only touch on three, two of them because I found them funny.

1st bold point:

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2nd bold point:
You sound like an old codger who refuses to learn new things who is stuck in the past. By the way, I would prefer "Duel Zone Climate Controls" to "Dual Zone Climate Controls", that way I could have honor battles with my passenger and possibly make tempests in the car!

3rd bold point:
It's not the LEDs that make those lights good, it's the fact they're HIDs and not halogen. Better visibility at night, it's a safety thing.


Grats on the new car Rob_g, if the dealership wasn't lying and you really are allowing people to sit in it, thank you for that opportunity. May you enjoy it for years to come.... as soon as they sort out that documentation problem.

Old codger? How old are you to even know that word! ;)

I stand by what I said. The point of my post was to explain why some people might not see the BR-Z as a better value, not that it may not be to some people.

Your first point.:sigh: You're soo much cooler than me aren't you?

As for your answer to about my second point, I love tech and embrace it where I see it really improves things for me(just ask my wife who complains about always getting the latest tech gadget), but sometimes simplicity is much better than just having the latest electronic just for its own sake. If BMW's absolutely convoluted iDrive system isn't perfect example of that, I don't know what is! With very few exceptions, there hasn't been an auto journalist/reviewer who hasn't panned that completely overblown complicated system every time they've had to review a Bimmer with one. Not saying the BR-Z's is anything like that, but for ME, I prefer simple HVAC controls. Again, personal preference. Just like I prefer an iPhone over and Android, Mac over PC, etc. For me they're subjectively better for how I want things to work, but not objectively better.

I'll grant you the LED and HID points, but again, when added up with why I like the FR-S more, it's not enough to sway my preference.

Hey, everyone will prefer what they like better, and one car isn't necessarily worse or better than the other;it's what you like.

Now go on and prove how much cooler/younger you are than me and commence flaming me.:sigh:

:bellyroll: Well played, sir, well played. Well... at least until you reached the part about Apple... but I won't get into that. That's a head butting for another forum :P

I couldn't agree more on "To each their own" that's why I refuse to get either the Subaru or Scion, I will only purchase the Toyota GT 86 Limited... if they ever smarten up and release it here.

I have to ask, how many o those things are actually in your car and how much do you wish your car had them if you dont?

You could be waiting a long time for that GT86.... I sure as heck would have a toyota badge than scion... I think I'll debadge the rear and put a toyota badge on the front. I'll steal it off my 4runner before I trade it in :D

Rob

It appears you have taken my poking fun too seriously (and it wasn't even directed at you). I'll answer anyways, although I shouldn't have to justify what I want. All that should matter is that it's what I want and I'm willing to pay for it. I don't care what others think, that's why they're called options, they're optional. If you want them, take them, if not, don't. To deny them entirely though, that's a big no, no.

I don't have heated seats in my current car, a friend and my parents have heated seats and I would love to have them, especially in our winters. Heated only comes with the leather/alcantara seats. As for the colour keyed interior on the GT 86 limited, my Celica is the same way only blue, right from factory. Seen here.

Dual climate controls? Never had the argument "It's too hot/cold in here, turn up the air/heat." but it's perfect for you so you have to discomfort yourself to appease or ignore and piss off the passenger? Yeah, too many times has it happened to me and I've seen how it works in in my friend's truck. It's very nice and useful, again, especially for the climate Sask. has.

LED HIDs, this should be a no-brainer. Such a small thing for such a great improvement in safety.

Nav unit, I have an aftermarket one and it's nice to have. Having an OEM with added, integrated, functionalities would be even better.

Fog lights, my Celica does not have them, but my Cavalier does. I like them, they do add extra light and have been useful. Wish I had them on the celi.

Push button start, I think it's cool and gives it a more sport feel. That's all that matters to me. I enjoy the idea and it adds to my fun factor.

Spoiler - I have a TRD edition Celica, have you seen the wing on them? I love it. I even added one to my Cavalier (A wing, not the same exact one from the TRD Celi)


I've waited seven years for Toyota to bring back a sports car, I'm a little too used to waiting now.

lol do it! I'm sure badges will turn up on Ebay or you can order them from Toyota directly (if you don't mind the dealer mark up).

I can answer this very simply. The FR-S looks better. Plus, why buy a BRZ when the FR-S is cheaper?

To be honest, I couldn't care less about the options you listed above. The only thing which I even remotely care for is the HID's and quite frankly, that doesn't make up the cost difference.

Let's also not even go into the availability of the FR-S compared to the BRZ. I actually plan on owning one of these 2 next week.

Care to guess which one (here's a hint... its the better looking one) ?.

bneale

Well, aside from the front end, I like the fender grills on the BRZ more than the FR-S with that 86 badge which has nothing to do with Scion. It's not a Scion 86 after all...

Rob

I would pay extra to NOT have climate control. I've had it in other cars and I'm ****ing around with it more than the basic 3 knobs.

Only care about heated seats with leather. But yes, if it was 100-300 option I would have ticked the box.

HIDs are nice until you bump a wall or get whacked with a cone and have to pay 1400 for a light instead of 250. Unless you drive a lot on unlit highways at night it's a non-issue. Halogen projectors are quite good.

OEM Nav? They all suck, always. Audi, BMW, Acura - GARBAGE. Why waste money?

Prox unlock/start - I could see learning to like not fishing for a key. Maybe aftermarket later.

TBH... I would love to have the Limited BRZ. Unfortunately I'm a full time university student... 30k OTD for the FRS was pushing it... no way could I have afforded to spend another 5k (+taxes...) on the BRZ no matter how many extra amenaties they offered.

Ofc... I would have picked up the base model, but since I was part of the group buy - I can't justify spending 2k (+taxes) for the minimal upgrade it provides.

That being said... IMO ppl who paid full price on the FRS are idiots. HID + Better seats + nav + security for only a grand more? No brainer.

Lol easy now, you also have to consider colour, availability, and mark ups.

I disagree. Regardless on whatever brand the car is sold under, they are all 86's.

So yeah, the 86 badge belongs on the Scion just as much as it does on a Toyota or a BRZ.

Quite frankly I like having the badge on the Scion because of all the BRZ retards who say "The Subaru Crowd is so much more mature". I've seen countless number of people on this forum put down the Toyota/Scion crowd and I've personally had a taste of this myself.

I personally don't think brand has anything to do with owning a new 86. The cars are so similar that anyone who says one is more deserving of the 86 badge then the other, is wrong in my opinion.

They are all 86's and quite frankly, I'm going to be a proud owner of a Scion FR-S.

bneale

The people buying Scion's have no choice about price. We are all going to pay the MSRP.

But you're thinking about this in the complete opposite way that I'm thinking.

I don't care for the leather seats. I also don't care about the sat nav. I don't like the BRZ front end, but I do like the HID's.

So in my opinion, the car for me is the FR-S. Not only do I like the looks more then the BRZ, I really don't want all the extra crap.

The price of the FR-S is better for me then the BRZ. I would rather pay less money for the same basic car. Not only that, but you know how hard its going to be to get a BRZ up here in Canada? There's almost nothing compared to the amount of Scions coming up here.

Then there's the dealerships. The Subaru dealers are way more shady then the Scion dealerships. How many threads have you read on here where people are complaining about markups on an FR-S? Compare that to the BRZ and you'll see the Subaru dealers are trying to make extra money!


So in terms of the dealerships, price, options, availablity, the FR-S is the better car for me. The difference in tax alone is roughly $1500 bucks.

bneale

Back to the topic of colour... Asphalt seems to be a bit of a misleading colour because it can look quite different depending on the light. I've seen pics of it where it practically looks black. I saw my FR-S outside today and I think it looked darker than it did indoors in the showroom. I've been really torn about the colour, not sure if I wanted that colour... I thought the black accents on the car were somewhat obscured by the dark colour of the car and didn't stand out like they do with the bright colours like white, red or lava. Honestly, if I could have any colour right now it probably would be the white, followed by red, lava and asphalt. But I'm tired of red since my 2010 4Runner is red (red salsa) too. I saw a dark grey camaro during lunch today and thought the colour looked very good, not as loud as some of the 'candy' colours I've seen. Anyhow after seeing it outside today, I think asphalt looks great and while it's not my first choice, it's an acceptable compromise to have my car sooner. :)

Rob

How is Taylor Scion treating you?