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Syste!m too lean bank 1
So do I have a faulty o2 sensor, or is something else wrong?
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Stock or modded?
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Sorry probably should have mentioned. Here is the mod list that for the engine:
Invidia N1 cat back Invidia catted FP Motiv OP FT86SF catted header AEM intake ECUTek tune Nothing has changed in a month or so. Just came on on the drive home from work today. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk |
Geez - hate to make guesses but it could be a ton of stuff. Maybe as simple as the sensor but possibly dirty or faulty injector(s). Maybe the tune needs a little tweak.
I'm going to step aside and let a pro give you better advice but I would start with the cheap stuff and move up the chain. Dealer might not be much help :) |
Yea, i need to do another logging run anyway, so i figure ill monitor them at the same time. If the sensor was bad though, wouldnt the logs be skewed?
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Okay so I did some logging this evening and the afrs regularly went into the 15s. Also, every time I shifted or let off the gas (but NOT stopped in neutral) my afrs were exactly 20. I think this is just how the reading is done. This was using the Torque app for Android.
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I think this is too lean ;)
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56141 I only pointed that out to show how long it takes to actually do major damage. What fuel do you usually run? PS - that sounds very lean to me :) Again - someone may tell me I'm wrong but crikey.... |
91 is the best I can get (easily) in my area. I feel like it's too lean too, but it's weird that I have been on this tune for a couple thousand miles and this just happened out of nowhere. I was informed, however that if it was the o2 sensor, a second code would be thrown as well, and I am assuming the same for a fuel injector, so I guess I'll get some EcuTek logs and hit up my tuner.
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What has your MPG been like? |
How do you read afrs external to the ecu?
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Also, if it means anything, Torque reads this for the "rediness":
http://imageshack.us/a/img820/606/46gp.png |
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Oh - what's your MPG been like? Has it been around an avg of 20MPH?
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I just saw a lot of people get 30. I guess I am a bit of a hoon. Anyway GL! |
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Was your intake installed before or after your tune? Was anything installed after your tune? Do you have any logs? Preferrably ones that involve a bit of driving (more than just a full throttle pull). I'll gladly take a peak for you. The AEM intake cheats the MAF and if you were tuned pre-intake and installed it your maf reading can be off thus leaning the engine out.
15AFR is normal under cruising / idle, the ecu goes into closed loop and will swing in certain ways for multiple reasons. Also going over 19AFR while engine breaking or engine decel is normal it is actually the ecu shutting off the injectors completely and the sensor simply doesn't have a readout for "no fuel". |
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That's the average.
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And any logs? |
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listen to @nelsmar you need to get some logs of general driving to see what going on. as nelsmar said AEM intake will require MAF rescale or you could get problems and CEL codes you describe was it installed after tune ? also leaky exhaust gaskets near either 02 sensor or engine can throw readings off and cause rich/lean issues did you use new gaskets when headers installed if you re-use the originals they tend to leak after about a month. ?? If you can't do propper logs (torque is a bit slow refresh rate and cannot log all the required parameters) take it back to tuner before it gets worse and more expensive. If it was me I would not be going WOT with that cel code coming up. |
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see if the ltft are less than 10% and that the commanded AFR and measured AFR follow each other under load. If your ltft is over 10% under load and the commanded AFR and measured afr are way off then something is wrong. If maf scaling has been done correctly ltft should be less than 5% or possibly less than 3% under load. did the cel come back after ecu reset check for air leaks on intake and that maf sensor seated correctly and is clean, especially if you run an oiled filter Do you have ecutek map switching ? are you on correct map, you did not switch back to stock map or something ? |
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@steve99 what can you gather from this ECUTek log? Looks fucked to me, but wanted to get another opinion...
https://www.sendspace.com/file/xosw4a EDIT: Is it possible to allow us to attach CSV files to posts? |
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Your fuel trims are pretty bad....
Who is your tuner? |
Graham from FT86 SF. Its an etune that was still being worked on. Thats the 3rd or 4th revision.
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91 pump
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I am not quite sure what he is doing if this is the result of 3-4 revisions and your setup hasn't changed and haven't had any hardware issues. |
Ill upload them in the morning. Thanks!
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might be worth pulling maf sensor and cleaning just in case |
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