New here, Few questions about some mods.
 

Hey guys, new to the forum and new to vehicle modifications in general. I dont know much about cars at all but im learning. Yes, i will have a professional do almost all of my modifications for me so i dont ruin my car :thumbsup: First things first, im buying a used BRZ. Want a brand new one but if i get one cheaper that gives me a little more money to play with.

Please no disrespect or flaming if i sound stupid or have no idea what im talking about. Lets keep this post nice and helpful. I currently own a little family car that ive done nothing too but drove. But now its paid off and its daddys turn to get his own car :D I also need a hobby honestly, and ive always been interested in cars.

I want to get the V2 Rocket Bunny Aero kit for my car but i like certain features the V1 has. Is it possible to just get the individual parts and put them on the car? Will they fit together properly or will it take some extra modding? And what color are the parts when you get them? Like... grey? :iono:

Another question, in pictures of the certain BRZs (or scions or 86s whatever) with the aero V2 I see the "GREDDY" painted on that part in the front (sorry, dont know anything lol) When i put the aero kit on will that part be there? Because i really like seeing that there and would personally like that on mine.

You can see an example here http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/10/...nny-86-ver2-0/

I also intend on installing the GREDDY Turbo kit. Is it worth the price? I would love an engine swap but thats alot of money as well and i would just have a perfectly good engine lying around.

Few more small things, I want to install different seats, a harness bar, get it painted, new steering wheel, wheels, and tires. So if you know great products that fit and are a great price and work well please share. Try to keep them White or Black please (except the wheels, i like some of the colored ones) because i dont know what the exterior color will be and i want the inside to match.

I know this is alot but this is going to be spaced out over the next year or 2. With that being said, what order should i do these mods in? Are there any other, more efficient, cost effective, mods you would recommend?

Thanks in advance for any helpful information you guys provide!

Do yourself a favor.... buy the car first then worry about modding it after you've owned the car.

-alex

Dear fourms,

Please build my car for me.

Love, Dylanacessna


Buy it and enjoy it stock first.

Drive you car, get a feel for it first, and read through some of the great threads already on this forum. Then you can build your own car instead of just trying to duplicate what others want. Do you have much track experience or any advanced driver training? No point throwing an RB and a turbo on with some fatties for powah before you know you can handle the car.

If you go on Greddy's website, they have the RB kits pieces listed separately so yes, they do now sell parts separately. But the trick is finding a vendor who does that. So send some emails.

Greddy turbo, no. same kit is offered by Speed by Design for like $1500 cheaper. Check the threads.

You will definitely need suspension upgrades instead of new seats. Check the threads.

Just get it wrapped instead of painted. Check the threads.

There's a wheel directory. Check the threads.

Maybe just do small stuff before splurging without much knowledge on what you want to buy. Check out the phantom electric supercharger, thats a pretty interesting setup that might be better for you until you know what you want for the turbo. Much cheaper as well. Grab a lip and skirts and maybe talk to Driveway labs for a diffuser. No need to drop 10-15 grand in the car before doing your own research.

Good luck..

For not knowing much about cars, you want to jump straight into pretty much the most extreme cosmetic and power modifications available to the platform. If that's really want to do, you better do a lot of research beforehand. Cutting up your fenders and going forced induction probably shouldn't be the first things on your to-do list.

I would set yourself a personal challenge, right now your "wants" in the interior department are the easiest to achieve on your list. I would shoot to try and get those changes done first and if you make it through the interior changes then make another thread about the body kit, and lastly the engine. The time it will take you to accomplish each task you'll have been on the forum long enough to have read about the other mods and know what's involved in performing them. I would say your knowledge is pretty limited on these mods so your best task to do is read and search the forums for what you desire. It's not as direct as flat out asking the forum but it will be far more educational.

In case the OP has no fucking clue what he's about to blindly chop up, these four videos might benefit his knowledge:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fupuiFdbwHc"]Subaru BRZ Development - (Video 1 of 2) - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_byAbVdt6BY"]Subaru BRZ Development - (Video 2 of 2) - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4DJtHYEfos"]Toyota 86 presentation by Tetsuya Tada, PART 1 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO8lOjqhLJQ"]Toyota 86 presentation by Tetsuya Tada, PART 2 - YouTube[/ame]

You just went full retard. Never go full retard.

Well I have a very short period of time before I get it. My friend is an owner and I've driven his many times so I know how it handles. I'm just getting an idea of what's getting purchased first, what price, where from etc. I like being prepared and having a plan or goal set in place .:thumbup:


in no way was I asking the forum to build my car for me I was just asking questions about the specific mods I had in mind for it. I have access to a private shop where everything will be done. A family friend is doing the job with me. He's going to be the brains since I don't know much and I'm just going to be the hands. That's just how I learn. Hands on 1on1 interaction. I wouldn't want anyone to build my car for me. There's no feeling of accomplishment there. I would take more pride in my car knowing I did it with my hands.

Thanks you for the advice and lack of sarcasm lol much appreciated.

How did he go full retard? Lol is there a significant difference between the two? Are they not the same?

I think SBD is made in china, and greddy is not.

In otherwords SBD is a knock-off. Like all things knock-off, they are cheaper... and cheaper.

Ahh okay. Yeah I definitely don't want to put any cheap knock off parts on my car. You get what you pay for. A firm believer in that.

Read the threads. Or pay Greedy like husker obviously did. :laughabove:

Lol ffs.. "I think"

No you don't. Go home.

Edit: I see that you actually went to the thread and started reading it. Doing some research before your next comment?

I'm not doing anything blindly. Im going to have assistance. I would never start going to town on my car without knowing for a 100% fact that I'm doing it right. Just because I don't know what to do right now doesn't mean I'm going to start with no help like an idiot. I'm going to be taught and walked through the process. You guys need to calm down lol when someone says they don't know what to do, why do you all automatically assume that person is going to go wild and start ruining stuff? Example, I had no idea how to build a computer, went online, bought all the parts, had a friend come over, help me build it and show me what's what. Now I know how lol if I'm ever confused or don't know something I look for advice or help before moving forward. It's comments sense.

Hey, if you can't afford the greddy kit and want a knock-off more power to you.

I did read the thread like i've read it when I was considering turbo kits.

The SBD is a knock-off in design, as far as where the parts were manufactured, I could be wrong.

Hey, if you want to spend $5000 on a $3500 kit, the same power to you.
You obviously read only a page or two, (probably the first couple) where everyone was saying it was a knock off. Do some DD and you'll see parts are made in Taiwan, theres a few other kits that are the same design, etc. I really don't care as I won't be putting either the Greddy or the SBD in, but it is, in fact, a cheaper version of the same kit. You pay $1500 for the "Greddy experience". Buy a Greddy sticker and save $1490.

:popcorn:

No turbo kit on my car. Actually I've never put anything Greddy on any of my cars. Nice try, though.

Starting off I just want to say thank you for the way you worded this post. You seem like your actually giving advice rather than being a ****. I'll go ahead an answer some of your questions. I want to do theses for both the wow factor and the fact that it's lacking in power. Where I'm from there's not much to do. Small town few people. But most of the people I know spend time at the strip just for fun with friends. We also have some small local car shows. So you can see why I'm interested in having a good looking car that's faster than stock. I do know the RD kit is irreversible and requires cutting, I'm okay with that. I am prepared if life happens, I have another car if anything happens to this one, my wife, kids and I both have free health care, and have money put away for emergencies. I DO NOT have a local shop that will do this for me, but I know where some are, they are a good drive but I'm willing to do that if need be. I do have a shop that I have access too to use as I please and I have someone with the know how. So we will be in the shop which is like 6 blocks away with all the tools we could need and he's going to help me learn and do the project with me. I will definitely do more research I know I've barely scratched the surface. :thanks:

Well aren't you just the authority on the subject then. Lol

That's part of the problem... you don't have a goal, you don't have a plan, you have a list of things you want to put on your car but you have no idea how to do it.

If you are in search of advice, you need to be looking at these things in person, seeing what parts of the car you are looking to change, and go from there.

I mean, go read your first post again:

What is worth the price? What are your power goals, or intended use of the car? Is power just a name to you? Do you want brand name parts or bang for the buck? Do you know how the turbo kit is set up? Do you know why the words "Greddy" are on the front mount intercooler setup on the Rocket Bunny car?

Just because your friend owns a car (and you've driven it many times) doesn't mean you actually have owned the car. I did not drive the car once before I bought it, but I bought this car (and modded it) based on prior experience from driving/drifting on the track, working every week on my previous cars over the course of 15+ years.... and even then, my supposed "game plan" was thrown out the moment I bought the car.

In the end, you can do two things:

- own/drive the car, mod accordingly
- mod the car, drive accordingly

To each their own... and trust me, your "plan" isn't a plan, it sounds more like a "I have $20k to spend and here's my shopping list."

-alex

There's a difference between a company knowingly selling products that are a blatant copy, and companies that continue to say they did all the R&D and came up with everything themselves. Such as companies that sell TRD style body kits compared to companies like SBD that sell a product they know is a knock-off but will not say so.

When it comes to the power I just know i want more than what the car has already, from what ive researched it seems like the turbo is plenty for me. I know brand name parts arent a priority for me but i dont want crap that will fall apart. If its reliable and isnt overpriced its good to me. I know some of how the turbo is set up. Not 100% of course because i havent actually done it. Just have information from what ive read and seen. Im not sure why the Greddy is on the intercooler. Was kinda looking for information on that. thats why i asked about it but i actually just found this so i guess that sums that up.

http://www.shopgreddy.com/intercoole...o-stencil.html

I dont plan on drifting and racing all over town guys. Ill probably just take it to the track now and then for fun with my friends and take it to the local car clubs and shows. Nothing serious. But you are right in saying that its more of a shopping list. It does seem that way and i have a bad habit of doing things in that fashion. I asked the questions here because, maybe its just me but, its not easy to find the exact information im looking for. If anyone knows exactly where i can find what im looking for or the answers to my questions it would be the people here. Instead of browsing the web going to hundreds of websites and watching hundreds of videos, asking BRZ owners seems to be the smartest thing i can do. Im a hands on learner. Having the car and having the parts with me in the shop, and having a person with me who knows what to do, ill learn faster than web surfing i can guarantee it. There isnt really a place i can just go to see people who already have this stuff. Its either surfing the web or hands on. Those are my options lol Im just trying to find out what i need to know, and what fits, what works, whats best, before i start my hands on learning experience.

Care to comment, @spdbydesignchris ?

There's something called an Internet search engine, make use of it as there are vast amount of information available already at your finger tips.

You seriously need to carefully re-read your first post, which is really ambiguous even for complete strangers on the Internet to give you any sound advice. Building a car hasn't yet reach the level of straight forwardness as putting together a home personal computer, even if Fast and Furious tells you otherwise.

You said you wanted a hobby. For me, a hobby is when you spend many hours/days/years researching, going thru hundreds of webpages and hundreds of videos, countless trial and error, sleepless nights working on it, money spent and lessons learned. If you really can't find the answers you are looking for after making a big effort, then create the solution yourself. Now that's real bragging rights!

No single thread on a forum is going to build a show car for you. It's not that easy.

I think you should try all this on a cheaper car first... Say a used Miata for $1000. You need to learn about everything yoruself before jumping in the deep end.

Car mods are 95% research, 5% execution, and Rocket Bunny body kits and turbo chargers on a non-turbo car are indeed the deep end. You didn't even list brakes or suspension work, or upgrading your drive train to compensate for when things start breaking with the extra power.

The BEST way to mod a car is one piece at a time, find a problem and solve it and keep going from there... You can't plan ahead for when you find out you hate driving your car cause you did so much stuff to it and it suddenly drives like crap, its a step by step process.

He's already commented numerous times on his knock-off kit. Let's not derail this incredibly awful thread even more. Think what you want, but let's agree to disagree.

Ill try to explain this again lol I know the information is on the internet, spread out all over the place. ll i am using the internet to find the information im looking for, by asking others on it. The internet can be used for more than just reading and watching videos. Im connecting with others who have the information via the web. Which, is a faster, smarter way. Also, im not building a car, im adding to one. Huge difference. The create the solution yourself idea is stupid for someone with little experience. Maybe if i knew tons about cars and mods then yeah. But doing that at this point is just the dumbest thing ever. You dont just try and fix random shit yourself when you dont know what your doing. Once more ill say this... IM NOT ASKING ANY OF YOU PEOPLE TO BUILD MY FUCKING CAR! Jesus Christ. Im trying to gather information from people before I do shit myself. I dont know why people cant wrap their heads around that.

Your definitely right. I should try this on a cheaper car. I know that :/ Im just extremely impatient. Ive been waiting too long to get myself a car lol ive been saving up all this cash for so long. But im definitely not jumping into the deep end without some water wings lol I have someone to kinda watch over my shoulder and help me out with the mods. Im by no means done with my research this is just part of it. Gathering information from you guys.

" You didn't even list brakes or suspension work, or upgrading your drive train to compensate for when things start breaking with the extra power."

THIS ^
Your absolutely right. One thing i know little about right now is the effect that the extra power will have on other parts. The turbo is actually towards the end of my to do list for this exact reason. Gives me time to do more research and learn more before taking that step. Id hate to throw a turbo in, go straight to the track, floor it, and blow the shit to pieces lol Thank you for your kind advice :cheers:

You are lucky I re-read my post before sending. That is all. Carry on with the spending of money on a futile effort of rattles and disappointment in your near future. Try not to get too defensive when others question your grandiose ideas whilst pimping a car you do not currently own.

You aren't going to get it all done at once. I mean you could, but why rush?

Enjoy the process and use it as a learning experience. Talk to vendors. Drive your car. Meet people. Do your research. Educate yourself. Build the car from the bottom up. Get it ready for more HP.

It doesn't take too long and it is the equivalent of automotive foreplay.

Or - rush right in and shoot your wad.

Up to you - your ride/experience.

I believe you will find greater satisfaction by pacing yourself. Even if you already know exactly what you want and have 10-20K extra cash on hand.

Also - do some of the work yourself. Even if it is throwing a few odds and ends on. But at least pick 1 project that stretches your knowledge.

Have fun!

If you don't know where to learn, or where to start, why do you have such a specific laundry list of mods you want to do?

Seriously, take this as advice:

Drive the car first.

Don't assume you know everything.

And after that, if you truly feel you need more power, want a flashier kit to make the car look better, bigger wheels, blah blah blah... then go mod away.

Until then, take your $20k and go buy some GoPro stock. If you had done that in the last 48 hours you would've made 20%+ on your investment while complaining about your nonexistent car.

-alex

Guy, you seem to not understand what is being told to you. You keep saying that you don't want anyone to build your car yet clearly don't understand what it is you are looking for. It sounds like you want a car that looks good and goes fast. There are lots of cars that meet that definition, this car really isn't one of them.

Everyone here wants to help you learn about this car and how to work on/mod cars in general. To do that you first need an understanding of the inner workings of the topics you laid out. You need to research first before you just start talking about slapping parts on. You need to understand that if you do A then B, C and D will happen.

It's good that you have a friend with a shop that can help you but working on cars is much MUCH more than just knowing how to install bits and change fluids.

You can't write a novel before you know how to read.

This isn't a "hey, I'm doing this in a week" post. This is really just part of my research. I had a few questions about some specific mods im interested in. I figured the people with the answers would be here. Fastest way to get the info is from others with experience IMO. I will take your advice and drive the car some more after I buy it but I do have quite a bit of time logged already.

Makes a lot of sense and isn't written in a ****ish manner. Thank you. But I don't feel like EVERYONE here wants to help lol I feel like some of these people have a "were an elite few" mentality. As soon as I mention I'm new they're like, "your not ready for the big leagues bro!" But will be the first ones to post "awesome! Very nice!" When I start showing pictures of the progress. I dont, by any means thing I know everything or am ready to dive right in to these mods. I'm just trying to get some answers to these questions I have floating around in my head.

there is so much information on these forums alone it is kind of crazy. But if you have a friend that knows these things get with him first before buying tons of parts. Your first post made it sound like "I'm buying a new car and within a month I want it fully modded give me a list of parts to buy"

that list alone would be so huge and just full of arguments and people raging about "that's not worth the money" or "that is a cheap knockoff part". Hell look at the rota thread that is pages and pages of QQ and just one of the brands of one item on your list.

If I were you I would look at the members journals just to see what people are doing to their cars, most people post their mod list. find things you like, do a search on here, find the thread about that part and see what everyone says about it. There is no way to say "here are the parts you want for this chassis", it's too new and things keep changing, and people have different ideas on what a part should cost.

also if you are planning all of this, it *MIGHT* be worth just looking at some of the people selling their RB car, price/part it will be much cheaper but it is of unknown install quality.

If it isn't, you sure need to work on your presentation skills... because judging by the posts in this thread, I'm not the only one who thinks you are trying to do this all at once.

Again, you need to go back to the drawing board.

Turbo kit >> wheels >> suspension >> tuning >> bottomless pit
RB kit >> wheels >> suspension >> power >> turbo >> tuning >> bottomless pit

There's so many ways this story can be drawn up in your mind...

And really? Seat + harness bar for street use?

You can space it out over decades, and my reply would still be the same... set goals, broad objectives, then move to details. The same concept applies in strategy, sales, planning, job interviews, and everything else in life.

-alex

It kind of seems like you would be happier in a slightly used sti or evo. It doesn't seem that you care about the warranty, you want power, you want a car that's going to be simple and more straightforward with the work needed to reach goal a or b. You mention a local drag strip, I don't hear much about autocross or track days from you so precise handling and light chassis don't seem to be of much use to you. I honestly think you got the wrong car in mind here. Before I bought my BRZ I was looking at the 2015 WRX, STI, Mustang GT, and Focus ST. The BRZ was actually on the bottom of my list, but I drove it and loved the handling and realized I don't care about the power or the back seat spacing (no kids here) and I liked the simplicity of the car. Seriously I drove the WRX right after and it was faster, but so boring at speed. The rear seats were huge it made me feel wasteful. I've owned 2 turbo cars and I have a project car/mr2 that puts stock sti's to shame but it's not very economical or reliable. Basically to go back to my point, I don't think you want a BRZ. I think you just like the way a few of them look like when you see them online or something. If you're saving money for something you want to enjoy and learn a bit with then I think you'll be happier with a different car honestly.

Is there something you consider yourself well versed in, an expert? If not, skip my post, if so keep reading.

Did you get that way by getting the answers handed to you or did you spend hundreds of hours studying, critically thinking about, and possibly experimenting? I don't care if it's Super Smash Brothers or a musical instrument or multivariable calculus, if you've been through this at all you know that no single FAQ can possibly cover a newbie to the topic.

Now think about that subject you're an expert in, imagine a newbie asking you to condense hundreds, even thousands of hours of knowledge into a couple thousand words that can be read in under 5 minutes, it's not only next to impossible but nearly offensive.

I don't think you needed to state that.

Do the research, ask the right questions in the right threads after reading them thoroughly you'll get a much nicer response and much better support from the community there are very patient and knowledgeable members here, coming in and saying 'I want it now' is not the way to win them over.