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Sportsguy83 06-03-2014 12:04 PM

How do you get around OBD2 Testing in GA? (System Not Ready)
 
Fellow GA 86's.

I believe if you remove Cats, your Emmisions system will show "not ready" in the OBD2 monitor...

Then, if you use the EVAP soleniod line for boost control, that is a second system that will show "Not ready"....


So how do you get around this in GA? (Having two systems not ready for OBD2 yearly test)

@Reaper @dwx @ATL BRZ

2pt5RS 06-03-2014 12:07 PM

the readiness should go away after about a week. I've had that before (not in my BRZ, but in another car). After driving roughly a full gas tank, the readiness was...ready.

We don't need emissions yet for our cars. I believe next year will be the first year. I think it's 3 years after the car comes out is when you need emissions to get your tag... and even then it is/was only in metro atlanta. The rest of the state, unless I'm mistaken, doesn't have emissions.

Sportsguy83 06-03-2014 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 2pt5RS (Post 1775136)
the readiness should go away after about a week. I've had that before (not in my BRZ, but in another car). After driving roughly a full gas tank, the readiness was...ready.

We don't need emissions yet for our cars. I believe next year will be the first year. I think it's 3 years after the car comes out is when you need emissions to get your tag... and even then it is/was only in metro atlanta. The rest of the state, unless I'm mistaken, doesn't have emissions.

Thanks. I was reading the law and it seems emmisions is only 13 counties within ATL metro area, but the OBD2 test is everywhere? Might be mistaken, I don't live there just reading up in the GA page for emmisions.

Is one system allowed not be ready like in other states? Or all systems are required to be ready?

ATL BRZ 06-03-2014 12:27 PM

I know that my tuner has disabled the DTC for cat readiness so I've never seen it, but then again I've never actively monitored that metric in Torque in regular driving so it may not be actively "ready" even though the DTC is disabled. I'm not sure how that works. As far as I know we do not have visual inspections in Fulton county. I have a secondary cat but I never bothered to move the secondary O2 sensor aft of it since there's no point to. Worst case scenario I have my OEM header and can swap it on the lift if I absolutely needed to.

Sportsguy83 06-03-2014 12:37 PM

I need to actually drive the car around now that I'm not flashing it 3 times per drive to see what the monitors read... Maybe they all show ready and I don't even know.

Lawn_Mower 06-03-2014 12:38 PM

I had tons of issues dealing with customers cars without cat and with tunes in the Volkswagen world here in NC (OBD2 only inspection testing) curious to see what's needed to get catless and tuned cars though inspection on this platform.

The issue we ran in to with inspection was when the tune disabled the fault codes for the missing catalyst, the ECU no longer checks to make sure it's working so the readiness test wont run and it will be unset. Obviously different tunes can handle that differently, but what we had to do was run a O2 spacer and the stock tune, then force the readiness tests using our scan tool, get it inspected and then flashed back to the stage 2 programming. PITA like I said.

7thgear 06-03-2014 12:39 PM

it's 2014


can people stop ripping the cats out of their daily driven cars?

Sportsguy83 06-03-2014 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 1775203)
it's 2014


can people stop ripping the cats out of their daily driven cars?

Not really.. Also good to note, I don't daily drive my car.


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J_kennington 06-03-2014 02:17 PM

FYI, the state of Georgia allows 2 sensors to not be ready before auto failing the test. If a sensor shows not ready, you need to put between 65-150 miles on the car. Then it should pop ready. A tune should not matter, in fact...it theoretically should help pass emissions. Other than that, there is no way to "sneak" an obd2 car. Unlike an obd1 where you can manually input info, obd2s do it all automatically from the port.

Sportsguy83 06-03-2014 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by J_kennington (Post 1775440)
FYI, the state of Georgia allows 2 sensors to not be ready before auto failing the test. If a sensor shows not ready, you need to put between 65-150 miles on the car. Then it should pop ready. A tune should not matter, in fact...it theoretically should help pass emissions. Other than that, there is no way to "sneak" an obd2 car. Unlike an obd1 where you can manually input info, obd2s do it all automatically from the port.

2 sensors to not be ready allowed is good enough. That is the exact info I needed. Ecutek boost control tunes will have at most 2 sensors not ready. Thanks!

Reaper 06-03-2014 03:55 PM

@Sportsguy83 I am exempt from emissions testing in 49 states.

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Sportsguy83 06-03-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper (Post 1775737)
@Sportsguy83 I am exempt from emissions testing in 49 states.

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GRRRRRR....

Reaper 06-03-2014 03:58 PM

Sorry.

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King Tut 06-03-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 1775144)
Thanks. I was reading the law and it seems emmisions is only 13 counties within ATL metro area, but the OBD2 test is everywhere? Might be mistaken, I don't live there just reading up in the GA page for emmisions.

New job offer?

Sportsguy83 06-03-2014 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1775806)
New job offer?

Not yet, but trying to cover all bases beforehand.

samisons 06-03-2014 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 1775130)
Fellow GA 86's.

I believe if you remove Cats, your Emmisions system will show "not ready" in the OBD2 monitor...

Then, if you use the EVAP soleniod line for boost control, that is a second system that will show "Not ready"....


So how do you get around this in GA? (Having two systems not ready for OBD2 yearly test)

@Reaper @dwx @ATL BRZ

My friend managed to pass emissions without his cats in his s2000. not sure how lol.

Reaper 06-03-2014 04:44 PM

I used to reset the ecu in early obd2 cars so it would force the tailpipe test. Then id dump isopropyl alcohol in the tank and pass everytime

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J_kennington 06-03-2014 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by samisons (Post 1775851)
My friend managed to pass emissions without his cats in his s2000. not sure how lol.

You realize 98% of cars will pass without cats right? All it takes is for the tester to not look under the car, and to use one if the "tricks" to fool the ecu into thinking it's there. (Much like how we use an extended o2 well on aftermarket headers.)

Also, as far as what counties DO require emissions. It's mainly any within proximity to downtown Atlanta. Mine(douglasville) requires it, but Carroll(literally 20 miles down the street) does not.

samisons 06-04-2014 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by J_kennington (Post 1775922)
You realize 98% of cars will pass without cats right? All it takes is for the tester to not look under the car, and to use one if the "tricks" to fool the ecu into thinking it's there. (Much like how we use an extended o2 well on aftermarket headers.)

Also, as far as what counties DO require emissions. It's mainly any within proximity to downtown Atlanta. Mine(douglasville) requires it, but Carroll(literally 20 miles down the street) does not.

Sorry sir, I did not know that. Especially since my county does not require emissions, thus I've never had to test any of my cars.

2pt5RS 06-04-2014 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 1775144)
Thanks. I was reading the law and it seems emmisions is only 13 counties within ATL metro area, but the OBD2 test is everywhere? Might be mistaken, I don't live there just reading up in the GA page for emmisions.

Is one system allowed not be ready like in other states? Or all systems are required to be ready?

AFAIK, it has to show all ready. but @J_kennington may know more about it than I do. :p

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Originally Posted by samisons (Post 1776873)
Sorry sir, I did not know that. Especially since my county does not require emissions, thus I've never had to test any of my cars.

Cobb County does require emissions.. What county is your car registered in?

J_kennington 06-04-2014 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samisons (Post 1776873)
Sorry sir, I did not know that. Especially since my county does not require emissions, thus I've never had to test any of my cars.

If you live and registered in Marietta...you have to have emissions. Granted, we have 3 years from DOB to have to get it on our twins(in otherwords, a 2012 needs it's first emissions in 2015, a 2013 will need first emissions in 2016)

The ONLY reason I know 2 can be "not ready" is because my buddy has ran a station for 3 years now. The "not ready" fail is mainly in effect for the people who know they have a CEL, pull into the parking, clear the code, and try to get it tested.

ZionsWrath 06-04-2014 02:19 PM

If you know the right people and have some $ anything is possible.

I know someone who has a car all suspensions is fucked (every bump is hard metal to metal sound), ran out of oil once, all kinds of codes, etc etc lolol

Anyway they knew someone, left the car with them and they got a pass. I think it cost them 200$?

Not sure how that thing is still working to be honest but more power to them. The oil pressure warning beeps every 2 minutes when driving it, I'd go crazy personally.

J_kennington 06-04-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ZionsWrath (Post 1777882)
If you know the right people and have some $ anything is possible.

I know someone who has a car all suspensions is fucked (every bump is hard metal to metal sound), ran out of oil once, all kinds of codes, etc etc lolol

Anyway they knew someone, left the car with them and they got a pass. I think it cost them 200$?

Not sure how that thing is still working to be honest but more power to them. The oil pressure warning beeps every 2 minutes when driving it, I'd go crazy personally.

I'm guessing it was also an obd1 vehicle?

samisons 06-04-2014 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2pt5RS (Post 1777646)
AFAIK, it has to show all ready. but @J_kennington may know more about it than I do. :p



Cobb County does require emissions.. What county is your car registered in?

Pike county

ZionsWrath 06-04-2014 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by J_kennington (Post 1778124)
I'm guessing it was also an obd1 vehicle?

It's a 1999

xwd 06-05-2014 07:11 PM

Just saw this thread.

I failed a test in my FXT because the OBD2 readiness for the O2 sensor was not complete. I'm not sure where the rule is about you are okay with 2 sensors being not ready but I'm not sure that's true.

I'm not sure what Ecutek can do as far as the readiness state goes. In the past just turning off the DTC wasn't enough to pass emissions because you'd still fail the readiness check.

CPC you could always just reconnect the stock CPC and run WG boost until emissions was done. O2 sensor would be a little more difficult unless you had a catted front pipe and even then I'm not sure it would pass. GA has no visual inspection so as long as the plug-in check passes you are good to go.

Synack 05-27-2015 04:08 PM

IM REVIVING THIS because I'm due VERY soon for my turbo catless 2013 FR-S.

King Tut 05-28-2015 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Synack (Post 2264280)
IM REVIVING THIS because I'm due VERY soon for my turbo catless 2013 FR-S.

Pay off someone or move to Florida.

Synack 05-28-2015 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 2265438)
Pay off someone or move to Florida.

Option 1. Where to?

xwd 05-28-2015 08:43 PM

Hmm does the car still throw a code with a catted front pipe and the O2 sensor in the front pipe?

Synack 05-29-2015 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dwx (Post 2266079)
Hmm does the car still throw a code with a catted front pipe and the O2 sensor in the front pipe?

Some do. But I'm FI and have a completely entirely set of different problems.


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