Totaled or not?!?!
 

Hi fellow FR-S babes,

I am new here so I apologize if I put this thread into the wrong part of the forum!

Anyways, I am seeking your opinions on whether or not my baby is totaled. I was accelerating from a green light and decided to change lanes. Upon looking forward from double checking my side mirrors, I saw traffic had abruptly stopped in front of me. I hit the brakes as hard as I could and came screeching all the way back into BMW, which was then pushed into an Audi (I tried to pick the two nicest cars on the road LOL ((JK)). It is a 2013 with every option that was possible (HIDs, LED daytime running lights, keyless entry, emblem lights up) and there are no aftermarket parts on the car. It has close to 15k miles.
Driver airbag did deploy and there were fluids leaking onto the road from under the hood immediately after the accident.

Sorry to have to report such an irresponsible accident to a car we all love. :cry: Luckily, everyone involved walked away without injury. :bow:

Much love and thanks
xoxox

Looks like a 10 series? looks like airbags? Any more pics? My vote is "yes" but I've seen similar get repared as well.

Honestly, I doubt anyone here can tell you what an adjuster or your insurance company can do just based on that picture. Best bet is to wait and see what they do. Glad everyone is okay, but anyone that tells you your car is totaled based on that one limited picture might be giving you false hope.

Yes, it is a 10 series. Yes, I was the only person in the car and my airbag deployed. Unfortunately, no other pictures. I was too shaken up to worry about taking any- my friend who came to help out was the one who snapped the one above. Thanks for the input!

Thank you for your opinion and advice. I actually work for Allstate! But this is my first accident and I love my car so much. This happened a few days ago, but the body shop lost my key fob and wasn't able to take a look at it until sometime this week when they received the spare key... The anticipation is just killing me, you know? Thanks again!

The thing about these cars is that the metal is supposed to wrinkle like that to keep the driver safe. It always looks worse than what it is, but at the same time, it always leads to more work for the body shop. Good luck on the car! Keep us updated.

I would be surprised if the car in that pic is not totaled. The front end now looks like a Scion IQ.

Do you want it to be totaled, or do you want the same car back? I'm not sure I would ever be able to trust the car again if the engine and drive train took a knock like that.

Good to know!! Thanks again, I will let everyone know what happens as soon as I know.

... sounds like a serious team at the body shop....

I am torn. This is my third car and by far my favorite. It is so different and so me. But yes, I am worried about driving it after such a hard hit (I was going about 40mph).

Hahaha, I know right. We think the tow truck guy is actually the one who lost it. But no one is sure. I am going in today to try and look around in the car for it and get the rest of my stuff out.

This scares me as I have been close to this same accident twice. On the later occasion I had to swerve to miss the car in front. I have adjusted my observation practices to include glances back out front during mirror and shoulder checks.

Good luck with your repairs/replace.

Airbags usually bump the cost up to "totaled" on sub-30k cars like these. It's a toss up at this point, just make sure the bodyshop you're at is one you can trust and reputable on customer service.

Glad to hear no injuries were sustained from all parties. Honestly, if I were in your position I would pray the car is totaled. Even if it were repairable the depreciated value of the car would be horrible. Your best bet is they total it out and you grab yourself another FR-S/BRZ or something different. Best of luck to you!

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only me in the car, one air bag deployed. 16k damage not totaled

Yep. Just because the airbag deployed does not mean the car is totaled. It will be interesting to see how they price out a 10 Series FR-S.

Make sure you add in the cost of getting a replacement keyfob and somehow disabling the one that was lost, in case it turns up in someone else's hands after the car is fixed.

When i bought my monogram, I was told the replacement keyfobs were something crazy like $585.

I'm betting on totaled. Good news is, you could probably buy a new 13 and buy back that one. So you have a whole parts car.

Id push to claim it as totaled, that way you get the value of the car before accident and sometimes they let you keep the totaled car too, Once your frame is bent or snapped severely the car is really never the same afterwards.

I have seen less damage on an FRS being claimed as totaled, it depends on the appraiser and insurance company.

Well, that 10 series will never be the same. OP are you a child?

she put xoxox, brah! Those are hugs and kisses, man!!! ()=-)

Totaled because of the cost of the light up badge

i would expect it to be totaled. either way it will never drive the same. push for it to be totaled.

What does that mean "push for it to be totaled"?

The insurance company and, ultimately, the repair shop determines if it is totalled. All State is very clear. In order for the car to be considered "totalled" the repairs need to exceed the value of the car.

Which is the tricky part. Because they may value the car at $20K or $28K. Much of this is going to be regional and whether or not the insurance company can price a 10 Series correctly.

But you can't insist on the car being totalled if there is $15-18K or so worth of damage. More than likely they are going to decide to repair it at that point since they are a company who wants to turn a profit if that is the case.

Fixed it for you.

Hi everyone! I wanted to thank everyone for the comments and input concerning my car. I went to see it at the body shop yesterday and heard some not so great news... The total in damages is $12,100. There is no frame or main engine damage, so the only thing that would push it to being claimed as totaled would be if it was 80% or more of the cars retail value... That being said the damage would have had to be at least $12,800 to be considered totaled. Yes, $700 away... I'm not very happy about it. Strongly considered going and smashing in the front windshield so we could call it totaled. But obviously I didn't and there is nothing I can do. I am 18, btw. I am attaching a picture of him in the body shop all torn apart. Thanks again for all the opinions; I will attach pictures of the summary of cost in parts and labor later (I am not in town atm and am trying to update you via phone). I am not expected to have it back until at earliest June 23rd.

Im sure that will just buff out ;) Glad everyone was okay! Did you get checked out by a Doc after? I remember when I got into an accident a few years ago, I wasn't sore until a few days later.

Did they include the glowing badge (10 series) in the estimate? That's probably not cheap to replace.

Edit: I dont know. Looks like frame damage to me. I'm no mechanic tho. Damage on the wheel arch and the A pillar. Any body shop will probably try to under estimate so they get the job rather than the car being totaled.

Edit 2: also the 10 series head lights have the LED DRL so make sure they got that as well... probably a different light/part than normal FR-S light.

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Can you get it towed to another shop for another estimate?

You guys have me worried they aren't going to replace all of my 10 series extras as they should... I told the guy at the body shop and he kind of just brushed it off and was like yeah yeah it will be as good as new, exactly how it was when you bought it. I'm going to give him a call and make sure he knows. This body shop guarantees their work for life and there aren't many other options as the shop has to be "Allstate" approved to work on the car and get an estimate.
Forgot to address the key fob issue: it was not part of the accident therefore it will not go on the cost of the claim. Someone besides myself WILL be paying for it because they are very expensive and it was lost at some point while the car was in their hands. Not sure how it will be handled but rest assured I'll throw a bf and get a new one free of cost, as I should because they misplaced it.

I'd be very surprised if it was only $700 more to be totaled. Someone isn't doing the math correctly or something somewhere. The value of a 10 series, unless it had like 60k miles, is well more than just under $16,000.

The estimates are done by VIN, so the actual replacement parts would've been included in the estimate (10 series specific).

I did not go to the doctor after the accident. Though my wrist took the blunt of the impact from the airbag and is still very sore (mild sprain?). I was also wearing a watch and bracelet so I had lacerations and bruises on my wrist after the accident. Also lacerations on my hips from my seatbelt as well as total body soreness yesterday and Sunday. Overall I don't think any pain was worthy of going to a doctor and getting put onto the claim. Note: seatbelt saved my life. I most certainly would have been ejected if I was not wearing it. It also kept my face from connecting with the airbag.

This one had me laughing because of how true it is.

But real talk though, the car will NEVER be the same. The car itself out the lot brand new already has it's rattles and condensation of the tail lights in the back. Fixing that front is going to have rattles in the front. Hopefully no condensation in the headlights, but there are the chances. Just get a new FR-S.

Just my 2cents

THATS WHAT IM SAYING. In either case I'm sick because my car was really close to being totaled but wasn't OR my car is seriously depreciated in value that much WITHOUT the accident?! ... I'm getting an ulcer over this whole thing, honestly.

Considering both headlights will have to be replaced, there's highly unlikely to be any condensation problems. There weren't with the original OEM unit, so why would there be with the replacement OEM unit.

Also, with no engine damage etc. and all the body panels off the front, it's not that complicated a fix. If what they're replacing is mostly cosmetic or basic mechanical (radiator type engine parts), which it looks like then it's really not that bad.

Yeah let me just pull another 30k out of my ass... I wish I had that kind of money. I would love to get a new one, believe me. I don't think the car will ever be the same either, but I do not think that is an option for me now or anytime in the near future. Unless you want to write the check for me? Lol

Short of getting a second opinion I'm not sure there's much you can do if they did get everything on the estimate.

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The value seems way off. A 10 Series should be worth a lot more than $16K.

Anyway, there is still a chance they will find more damage as they go.

Look the accident happened. You cannot fix that. Learn from it and become a more defensive driver (I had my share of accidents before 21 as well). It sucks. But you are going to get your car back and you will have the warranty still. Don't do anything drastic like sell the car for a huge loss, and don't stress about the car not driving the same that it used to. For all you know the car will look and drive the same and you can chalk this up to a learning experience and just move on.

So, she's a girl then.

Jokes aside, I now feel bad for her after reading some more, it seems they are low balling the estimate.