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S2KtoFT86 10-21-2009 04:40 PM

Anyone else started thinking about mods already?
 
I know it's entirely too early to think about mods, but I just can't help thinking about what I'll do to my 86, provided the production model ends up as promising as it seems at this point. Coilovers, rims, BBK (if produced), bigger turbo (if there's a turbo version), exhaust, etc, etc.

Anyone else catching this bug early like me or am I the only one? :paddle:

ichitaka05 10-21-2009 05:12 PM

Hm... So far I just want the front Lip. Feels like FT86 is missing the CF lip. As for real mods. I need to see what kinds of spec it has before I want to do other stuff.

Shadowsong6 10-21-2009 05:35 PM

Oh yes. I have a big list of things going already. :happyanim:

scape 10-21-2009 05:46 PM

depends on what it ships with as base model (what i MIGHT be able to afford haha); I'd probably try and design brake cooling ducts, lower it 1-2"s more than stock if it's not low enough as is, and think about getting the exhaust down the middle; oh yeah, and shave any weight off that I can; first mod would probably be a braille battery and even wider tires to be honest.

FT-MH 10-21-2009 05:46 PM

Wheels are the only mod I could think of just yet :)

Ricepuddin 10-21-2009 06:12 PM

Wheels, Lower, Intake and exhaust until the warranty is over then we will see.

Hachiroku 10-21-2009 06:55 PM

Always thinking about mods, even on cars I don't own or won't be owning :) I'm the fool who collects mods on a car before I even buy the car. I'm sure there's some of you who have also done that :D

First thing is always what kind of wheels would look nice on the car. Factory wheels almost always fall short of my taste. I've imagined some tint on the car already too.

As for performance stuff, it's hard to think of what I could want right now since the performance and engine specs aren't out yet. But a suspension drop is always nice for looks and some better handling. :burnrubber:

PuGZoR 10-21-2009 07:27 PM

Yeah, wheels with a decent offset would be my first choice. Get a nice tint going too! I think part of my purchase will be trying to squeeze as many options out of the dealer as I can, heh. Make a list, in order of preference, and see how many I can get out of them.

As with most I think I'd wait to do mods until after warranty has expired. Wheels are fine with warranty on most Toyotas from what I've seen. Would just save an arseload so the day it comes out of warranty it'd get some coilovers, intake, exhaust, and maybe an aftermarket ECU. Would go great whether it's released turbo or not. :)

EDIT: Almost forgot! 2-way LSD would be pretty much mandatory too.

#87 10-21-2009 08:44 PM

I will probably only get some lightweight wheels in stock size with possibly wider tires depending how the stock configuration grips.

My current car is FWD and with the current suspension setup is very neutral. I can just fling it through the corners and not worry about anything. The 86 will be my first FR vehicle and will have to learn how to tame oversteer.

S2KtoFT86 10-21-2009 08:53 PM

It's nice to hear other folk's thoughts on what they have planned. Right now I'm really up in the air with the whole warranty thing. Guess only time will tell.

scape 10-21-2009 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by #87 (Post 1124)
I will probably only get some lightweight wheels in stock size with possibly wider tires depending how the stock configuration grips.

My current car is FWD and with the current suspension setup is very neutral. I can just fling it through the corners and not worry about anything. The 86 will be my first FR vehicle and will have to learn how to tame oversteer.

i've owned a few rear-wheel drive cars, and oversteer is usually not a problem, and can always be tweaked for more neutral or even understeering; I have had problems when it's slippery track though, which is when the rear can pop out; but on dry, smooth road I've never had that problem. it's really about how your driving technique is, RWD isn't hard to get under control for the most part i think.

Ricepuddin 10-21-2009 09:30 PM

Maybe I.T.B.'s to remind me of my old Silver top

White Comet 10-21-2009 09:31 PM

I want light aftermarket wheels (because you know the stockers are going to be relatively heavy) and upgraded suspension bits. I don't need a bunch of go fast parts, at least not early. I just want to enjoy the tossability of this promised light-weight RWD car.

OldSkoolToys 10-21-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by White Comet (Post 1138)
I want light aftermarket wheels (because you know the stockers are going to be relatively heavy) and upgraded suspension bits. I don't need a bunch of go fast parts, at least not early. I just want to enjoy the tossability of this promised light-weight RWD car.

^

Probably whatever open air and cat-back TRD offers (to give it a more aggressive sound), that'll be about it in terms of power.

Everything else will be TRD suspension upgrades: Springs, struts, sway bars.

Basically whatever I can do from TRD to keep the warranty valid. After the warranty is up I'll start getting more serious about what I'll be changing around.

Edit: Oh yeah, someone mentioned a LSD earlier in the thread. If TRD is offering a 1.5 upgrade, I'll take that too. But lets just hope the car comes with LSD standard!

Franisco 10-21-2009 10:26 PM

Performance mods really depend on powertrain
Tint, Wheels & Tires..

scape 10-21-2009 10:30 PM

i think someone mentioned that the diff might be from a lexus rear diff

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Edit: Oh yeah, someone mentioned a LSD earlier in the thread. If TRD is offering a 1.5 upgrade, I'll take that too. But lets just hope the car comes with LSD standard!

FT///R86 10-22-2009 01:21 AM

Suspension will be the top of my list. I plan on tracking the car. Definitely coilovers, sway bars, braces, etc. Then some wheels and tires.

RWD_only 10-22-2009 01:39 AM

Tires, intake, exhaust, sway bar/braces. Suspension and wheels in the distant future when I can afford something nice and when the stock setup becomes boring ;)

Besides, the 86 will be my DD. My rally car is going to be the balls out monster.

Jordo! 10-22-2009 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 1142)
^

Probably whatever open air and cat-back TRD offers (to give it a more aggressive sound), that'll be about it in terms of power.

Everything else will be TRD suspension upgrades: Springs, struts, sway bars.

Basically whatever I can do from TRD to keep the warranty valid. After the warranty is up I'll start getting more serious about what I'll be changing around.

Edit: Oh yeah, someone mentioned a LSD earlier in the thread. If TRD is offering a 1.5 upgrade, I'll take that too. But lets just hope the car comes with LSD standard!

Amen to properly matched TRD parts.

I want to get my hands on engine management and either a small turbo or blower as soon as reasonably possible...

S2KtoFT86 10-22-2009 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1169)
Amen to properly matched TRD parts.

I want to get my hands on engine management and either a small turbo or blower as soon as reasonably possible...

The only way I'll stick with TRD parts, is if they offer the very best in quality and performance. I'm sure there will be some great JDM companies jumping on board with this thing and I'm hoping that Titan Motorsports jumps on the bandwagon and produces some high HP. :party0030:

OldSkoolToys 10-22-2009 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86 (Post 1177)
The only way I'll stick with TRD parts, is if they offer the very best in quality and performance.

You don't have to worry about that.

S2KtoFT86 10-22-2009 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 1178)
You don't have to worry about that.

I don't have any knowledge or experience with TRD as I've only owned Hondas. Has their aftermarket for other cars been up to snuff when compared to JDM companies?

OldSkoolToys 10-22-2009 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86 (Post 1179)
I don't have any knowledge or experience with TRD as I've only owned Hondas. Has their aftermarket for other cars been up to snuff when compared with JDM companies?

Honda eh? Well, no wonder you look to aftermarket, since you had to deal with Mugen:).

My experience with TRD has been solely via the parts they offer for the AE86. These parts are basically the same parts they used back in the 80's when they were actively racing the cars. They are of the highest quality, and obviously guaranteed to fit properly, and are highly sought after.

Its true I haven't had any experience with the parts TRD puts out for their current cars, but given their past (and that its Toyota, who puts quality above all else) I would be surprised if they deviated from what they did for the AE86. Some of the best performance parts for the 86 come from TRD. And with the current CEO who's dead set on reviving Toyota's sports car heritage, and the fact this car is being marketed towards a young crowd who actively upgrade and mod their cars, I would expect a full lineup of engine, interior decorative, and suspension upgrades to be available from TRD either at or sometime shortly after the car is released.

Edit: Another thing to remember is that TRD parts (at least historically) will not void the car's warranty, unless specifically stated.

S2KtoFT86 10-22-2009 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 1181)
Honda eh? Well, no wonder you look to aftermarket, since you had to deal with Mugen:).

My experience with TRD has been solely via the parts they offer for the AE86. These parts are basically the same parts they used back in the 80's when they were actively racing the cars. They are of the highest quality, and obviously guaranteed to fit properly, and are highly sought after.

Its true I haven't had any experience with the parts TRD puts out for their current cars, but given their past (and that its Toyota, who puts quality above all else) I would be surprised if they deviated from what they did for the AE86. Some of the best performance parts for the 86 come from TRD. And with the current CEO who's dead set on reviving Toyota's sports car heritage, and the fact this car is being marketed towards a young crowd who actively upgrade and mod their cars, I would expect a full lineup of engine, interior decorative, and suspension upgrades to be available from TRD either at or sometime shortly after the car is released.

Edit: Another thing to remember is that TRD parts (at least historically) will not void the car's warranty, unless specifically stated.

I have never purchased anything from Mugen. I was sticking with J's Racing, Amuse, and ASM. But be that as it may, it's good to hear of the high quality that Toyota puts out for their parts. It's only a plus that most of their parts, like you say, don't void the warranty.

On a side note, it's great you're in Tennessee too. We'll have to get a NC/Tennessee thing going down the road.

OldSkoolToys 10-22-2009 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86 (Post 1183)
I have never purchased anything from Mugen. I was sticking with J's Racing, Amuse, and ASM. But be that as it may, it's good to hear of the high quality that Toyota puts out for their parts. It's only a plus that most of their parts, like you say, don't void the warranty.

On a side note, it's great you're in Tennessee too. We'll have to get a NC/Tennessee thing going down the road.

Amuse:thumbup:. If I had an S2K thats definitely who I'd go to.

I've been meaning to go out to the dragon's tail (devil's tail, whatever its called) for a long time now. Supposed to be out there past Knoxville if I'm not mistaken. My bro goes typically every year, and the photos he brings back shows a very scenic, and fun looking, mountain road.

S2KtoFT86 10-22-2009 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 1185)
Amuse:thumbup:. If I had an S2K thats definitely who I'd go to.

I've been meaning to go out to the dragon's tail (devil's tail, whatever its called) for a long time now. Supposed to be out there past Knoxville if I'm not mistaken. My bro goes typically every year, and the photos he brings back shows a very scenic, and fun looking, mountain road.

Heck yeah, I love going to the Dragon. Incredible stretch of road but very intimidating for your very first time. We should definitely plan some 86 meets up there when the time comes. Probably be best to wait until March or so now to go up. There's a huge S2000 meet in April as well.

Richardcranium419 10-22-2009 12:35 PM

Things that I will do;
I want the Subaru, I currently drive an 04 STI.

2.7 stroke motor
GT35R turbo
All the supporting mods
I have a set of sparco Evo seats, that are begging to be put in this car.
As much weight loss as I can get out of it. (My STI went from 3300-2864 pounds)
Some light weight SSR wheels (Been using them for years and I love them.)


That is just a start. ;)

ichitaka05 10-22-2009 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Richardcranium419 (Post 1196)
...My STI went from 3300-2864 pounds

Holly crap! That's amazing for GD series to weight less than 3k! Is it DD car or track?

Richardcranium419 10-22-2009 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 1200)
Holly crap! That's amazing for GD series to weight less than 3k! Is it DD car or track?

Thanks
I drive it to work about once or twice a week.
Here is a list of weight savings on this car off the top of my head.

Child seat anchors
floor mats
Foam sound deadener on firewall
All speakers
Carpet
Passenger seat (at track)
Airbags and sensors
Air bag controller

In car sound deadener under carpet
Spare tire
Spare tire bolt and cap
Spare tire cover
Jack extension handle
Jack
All trunk trim
Trunk springs
brake dust shields
Parking brake
Windshield washer fluid reservoir - about 12 lbs full
Hood liner
Battery 32.0 lbs (now 15 lb odyssey)
Rear tow hook
Rear bumper cover unnecessary mounting brackets
Rear bumper beam
Rear bumper beam bolts
Under coat
Front bumper cover unnecessary mounting brackets
Front bumper beam
Muffler heat shields
Various brackets, bolts, nuts, etc.


ichitaka05 10-22-2009 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richardcranium419 (Post 1202)
Thanks
I drive it to work about once or twice a week.
Here is a list of weight savings on this car off the top of my head.

Child seat anchors
floor mats
Foam sound deadener on firewall
All speakers
Carpet
Passenger seat (at track)
Airbags and sensors
Air bag controller

In car sound deadener under carpet
Spare tire
Spare tire bolt and cap
Spare tire cover
Jack extension handle
Jack
All trunk trim
Trunk springs
brake dust shields
Parking brake
Windshield washer fluid reservoir - about 12 lbs full
Hood liner
Battery 32.0 lbs (now 15 lb odyssey)
Rear tow hook
Rear bumper cover unnecessary mounting brackets
Rear bumper beam
Rear bumper beam bolts
Under coat
Front bumper cover unnecessary mounting brackets
Front bumper beam
Muffler heat shields
Various brackets, bolts, nuts, etc.


Any body parts to change into CF?

86Fan 10-22-2009 01:44 PM

Wheels and suspension.

Richardcranium419 10-22-2009 01:45 PM

That will depend on what the panels are made of. If they are made of aluminum that there is no sense in changing. If they are steel, then I will look into it. With what we have been told on the possible weight of the car. I don’t think much will be steel.

Kenji 10-22-2009 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86 (Post 1183)
I have never purchased anything from Mugen. I was sticking with J's Racing, Amuse, and ASM. But be that as it may, it's good to hear of the high quality that Toyota puts out for their parts. It's only a plus that most of their parts, like you say, don't void the warranty.

On a side note, it's great you're in Tennessee too. We'll have to get a NC/Tennessee thing going down the road.

I dunno much about either Toyota's or Honda's in house aftermarket companies (TRD or Mugen). All I know is that I've heard friends bitch that Mugen parts are $$$$$. How does TRD compare to Mugen in terms of price, value, and performance?

S2KtoFT86 10-22-2009 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenji (Post 1209)
I dunno much about either Toyota's or Honda's in house aftermarket companies (TRD or Mugen). All I know is that I've heard friends bitch that Mugen parts are $$$$$. How does TRD compare to Mugen in terms of price, value, and performance?

Mugen parts are expensive yes, but they're extremely high quality. The Mugen CF Hardtop for the S is around $6k but it's unmatched in quality and fitment. On top of that, it's real carbon, not the crap that Vis, Siebon and other companies sell. That is the only piece I would buy from Mugen. The rest would either come from Spoon, ASM, Amuse, or J's Racing as it's just my personal preference.

I guess it's the same cliche, that you get what you pay for. That's not to say that these items can't have problems because anything can go wrong with this stuff. Just the nature of the beast.

What I'd really love to see from TRD is/are carbon pieces for this car such as hoods, doors, mirrrors, etc. That would be pretty awesome imo.
:happy0180:

DanZilla 10-22-2009 06:48 PM

Driver Mod would be my first mod. Take it to a couple track events and autocross events. Then build from there. Probably stickier tires. Then coilovers. If RWD, then a bigger FSB.

ichitaka05 10-22-2009 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86 (Post 1227)
Mugen parts are expensive yes, but they're extremely high quality. The Mugen CF Hardtop for the S is around $6k but it's unmatched in quality and fitment. On top of that, it's real carbon, not the crap that Vis, Siebon and other companies sell. That is the only piece I would buy from Mugen. The rest would either come from Spoon, ASM, Amuse, or J's Racing as it's just my personal preference.

I guess it's the same cliche, that you get what you pay for. That's not to say that these items can't have problems because anything can go wrong with this stuff. Just the nature of the beast.

What I'd really love to see from TRD is/are carbon pieces for this car such as hoods, doors, mirrrors, etc. That would be pretty awesome imo.
:happy0180:

Hm... I was never a Honda fan, so I have no clue on Mugen stuff. BUT I gotta agree, I hope TRD make some CF body parts for FT86. Hood & Doos would be nice, but something bit more minor CF parts first: Mirrors, Shift Knob, Gauges, Lip, & TRD emblem CF Racing seat might looks nice.

JDMinc 10-23-2009 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanZilla (Post 1305)
Driver Mod would be my first mod. Take it to a couple track events and autocross events. Then build from there. Probably stickier tires. Then coilovers. If RWD, then a bigger FSB.

Couldn't agree more. Most cars out of the box are capable of so much more than its owner's abilities and I'm sure the FT-86 will be no different.

scape 10-23-2009 12:28 PM

I don't know about TRD parts list, mostly aesthetic I'd say, sans the superchargers they have lined up for the trucks and some of their suspension setups.
anyone here replace their car's backwindow with lexan? I was thinking this might be an interesting mod; and save probably 50-80 lbs, maybe more I don't know

talagang_crazy 10-23-2009 02:51 PM

wheels and suspension would be the first thing, then buckets. other than that, id have to know the production specs before even thinking about power mods

DanZilla 10-23-2009 02:53 PM

I really hope a turbo model comes out :sigh:


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