Originally Posted by civicdrivr (Post 220627)

Thats a hell of a headline.

Originally Posted by pkny (Post 220662)

Pdf copy is in another thread:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...907#post210907

Originally Posted by enigma (Post 221084)

Ack... My S2000 just inched closer to a classified ad...

Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 221632)

Interesting article but using their criteria I bet the 86 would murder the LFA.

Originally Posted by ChadSexington (Post 221677)

Were I a new Cayman owner, I would be crushed.

Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 221704)

I was comparing the S2000, RX-8, and MX-5 Miata to the FR-S in my mind yesterday and I came to this conclusion: The S2000 is more high strung and almost race-car like. The FR-S is more relaxed and traditional sports car like. It doesn't have as much grip as the S2000 but that's what makes it fun. So in a way, you would be stepping down in performance but stepping up in fun. :thumbsup:



Yeah, but fast cars are often not fun cars. Sure, you are impressed by the speed and grip but on the streets, that can only go so far.


That reminds me of the 458 Italia review by Jeremy Clarkson when he's like, "If I had just bought a Ferrari F430, I would probably want to commit suicide right now." :lol:

Originally Posted by enigma (Post 221725)

I would agree with you about the S being almost like a 'race car for the street' type vehicle. It's loud and uncomfortable when you're just putting along, but there are few vehicles as engaging and few vehicles whose engines make me smile as much as the S2000. I find myself rev matching everywhere I go just so I (and everyone else, seeing as I have a loud exhaust) can just hear the F20 unwind down the rev range. :D

And yeah, you're right about not all 'fast' cars being that much fun. My car before my S was a 480 rwhp 300ZX Twin Turbo... Really awesome car, went like stink on the highway, and was always impressive to passengers, but it wasn't exactly the most fun car to drive. Sure, a quick highway blast is definitely entertaining, but dip that thing into a corner at a decent pace, and it felt more uncomfortable than running out of toilet paper in a public stall.


That being said, I got very close to working out a deal today on an FR-S and trading in my S, even though I know I'd get more selling it on my own. Luckily (and unluckily) for me, the vehicle that the dealer initially thought was available turned out to be pre sold. I think as long as the car is 90% as engaging and entertaining as the S2000 (which, from early reviews, it seems like it will be), it will be a good purchase seeing as it will be about 200% more comfortable and practical as a DD. :D

Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 221704)

That reminds me of the 458 Italia review by Jeremy Clarkson when he's like, "If I had just bought a Ferrari F430, I would probably want to commit suicide right now." :lol:

Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 221632)

Interesting article but using their criteria I bet the 86 would murder the LFA.

Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 221742)

Yeah, the sound of the S2000 engine is the best of all 4 cylinder car engines IMO.

Originally Posted by Matador (Post 221952)

Have you ever heard a 4AGE 20V on full song?

Originally Posted by civicdrivr (Post 221966)

Im partial to the S14B23.

Originally Posted by Matador (Post 221949)

From what I've read about the LFA, probably not. The same qualities that make the 86 stand out among it's peers is are the same as what makes the LFA stand out in it's rarified air. I guess you could go far out on a limb and say the 86 is the layman's LFA, less the glorious orgasm inducing sound and 352hp for a $350k discount?

Originally Posted by Matador (Post 221952)

Have you ever heard a 4AGE 20V on full song?

Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 222049)

S2000 still sounds better at 9K rpm, better than any other 4 cylinder engine...LFA has the best sounding of all engines...

Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 221742)

Yeah, the sound of the S2000 engine is the best of all 4 cylinder car engines IMO. But as a daily driver, the FR-S is that much more practical and fuel efficient and comfortable while, as you say, about 90% as engaging. But I think it will be even more entertaining because of the more progressive balance and lower limits.

BTW, did you get to sit in the FR-S? If so, what were your impressions in comparison?

Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 222118)

I agree. LFA is the best followed closely by the Porsche Carrera GT. They sound like a freakin Formula 1 car!

Originally Posted by enigma (Post 222126)

I felt it necessary to post this... Love the LF-A so much.

Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 222047)

Man if only Yamaha did the engine\exhaust sounding on the 86\FR-S\BRZ like they did on the LFA.....

Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 222142)

Yeah, when I first heard they did some sound tuning on the car, I thought it would be like the LFA so I got really excited to hear it. But it turned out to just be the stupid cabin air intake thing.