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whamslam3 05-24-2014 07:55 PM

Camaro for FR-S
 
is it weird that i want to sell my camaro for a fr-s? i use my camaro as a daily driver and im kinda thinking the fr-s will do better on gas since its way smaller and still has good power for those fun times haha

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funwheeldrive 05-24-2014 08:00 PM

That is very weird.

whamslam3 05-24-2014 08:02 PM

im getting kinda annoyed at the size of the camaro. i have seen the fr-s up close in a parking-lot and its so compact i like that aspect of it a lot.

dbrandt01 05-24-2014 08:20 PM

I don't think it's weird. When I traded my truck, I looked at a camaro. Had headers, V8, exhaust was a manual. At the time I couldn't drive it, I learned manual on a BRZ, but my dad drove it and it seemed fun. The thing I hated about the camaro is while the power was fun, it was huge and bulky. I came from a lifted truck, the camaro felt as big. I saw the BRZ on YouTube, went to a dealer. That night i made a deal with them and haven't regretted it since. Not the most power in the world, but it's a very fun car. My mileage is pretty good too. Better than the 8 I got in my truck.

Rampage 05-24-2014 08:20 PM

That is a nice looking Camaro but I, personally, would rather have an FR-S than a Camaro. I got over torque and 0-60 times a long time ago. There is just too much mass in the new Camaros.

Kimsey47 05-24-2014 08:22 PM

GM or Japanese? Easy choice....

FiRStsc10n 05-24-2014 08:22 PM

Go test drive an FR-S. That should help you make a decision.

Annahra 05-24-2014 08:24 PM

I traded my '10 Genesis coupe in on the BRZ because I wanted a smaller car with better gas mileage. They were pretty comparable in power, though. You will see a significant drop in kick and engine sound.

whamslam3 05-24-2014 08:29 PM

thats true i could test drive one. im just worried about them giving me a shit deal for my car if i end up enjoying the fr-s

and thnks

whamslam3 05-24-2014 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Annahra (Post 1757823)
I traded my '10 Genesis coupe in on the BRZ because I wanted a smaller car with better gas mileage. They were pretty comparable in power, though. You will see a significant drop in kick and engine sound.

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im surprised u did that. like u said those 2 cars are very similar all around

jflogerzi 05-24-2014 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by whamslam3 (Post 1757832)
thats true i could test drive one. im just worried about them giving me a shit deal for my car if i end up enjoying the fr-s

and thnks

I would recommend carmax. They are pretty good for trade ins. At worst you can use that as leverage at the dealer. If yours has the V8 you are gonna think the twins are slow. If its a V6, get rid of the camaro. I remember driving the V6. What a slow boat it was. Also how much city vs freeway do you drive. With Sticky tires I am getting about 25MPG average with 65 city/ 45 freeway. But I agree go drive one. Plenty out there. Find a 2013 so you can really test drive one.

whamslam3 05-24-2014 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 1757880)
I would recommend carmax. They are pretty good for trade ins. At worst you can use that as leverage at the dealer. If yours has the V8 you are gonna think the twins are slow. Also how much city vs freeway do you drive. But I agree go drive one. Plenty out there. Find a 2013 so you can really test drive one.

mine is the v6 so its prob about the same even tho mine has more hp its really heavy compared to the fr-s so im sure it evens out

jflogerzi 05-24-2014 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by whamslam3 (Post 1757884)
mine is the v6 so its prob about the same even tho mine has more hp its really heavy compared to the fr-s so im sure it evens out

Where are you in CA? If you want we can meet up and I can give you a ride in my FRS. Stg2 Tune and aftermarket headers and Exhaust. Give you a good idea of what you can expect with bolt ons on NA. If you can drive stick, maybe I would let you drive the car for a bit(depending on what vibe I get from you) Just an offer.

Annahra 05-24-2014 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by whamslam3 (Post 1757833)
im surprised u did that. like u said those 2 cars are very similar all around

The BRZ is much smaller and gets 30mpg vs. 23mpg with the Genesis. Really adds up when you put 16-18K mi. a year on your DD!

whamslam3 05-25-2014 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 1757889)
Where are you in CA? If you want we can meet up and I can give you a ride in my FRS. Stg2 Tune and aftermarket headers and Exhaust. Give you a good idea of what you can expect with bolt ons on NA. If you can drive stick, maybe I would let you drive the car for a bit(depending on what vibe I get from you) Just an offer.

i live in whittier and work in santa ana

jflogerzi 05-25-2014 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by whamslam3 (Post 1758233)
i live in whittier and work in santa ana

If your off Monday, let me know.

whamslam3 05-25-2014 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 1758331)
If your off Monday, let me know.

i already have plans for monday but maybe some other time would be cool

FR-S Matt 05-25-2014 10:02 AM

I'd trade it for an FR-S easily.

1. It is not an SS so it's already not that great being a V-6.
2. It is a tank. It desperately needs a redesign and weight reduction. Chevy needs to learn from Ford because the 5.0 is still faster than the Camaro, minus the Z28 now, but that one is in supercar range in price.
3. Blind spots. This car has the worst blind spots of any sports car I've sat in.

Don't get me wrong, I've owned a previous generation Camaro SS, (2002 anniversary model with the checkered racing flag stripes) and I do love them. They're a great bang for your buck car like the Mustang GT 5.0. They just really need to go back to that LS-1 style body which was lighter and make it a bit safer for me to consider trading my FR-S back for one. For now, the only car I'd trade my FR-S straight up for is a new Mustang GT 5.0 because 400 horsepower from the factory is just nuts for under 30k.

FRSpappa 05-25-2014 10:27 AM

I considered a Camaro until I drove one. Big disappointment! Almost didn't even want to test drive it when I sat down, worst ergonomics in a car I've felt. Love the retro looks and I also have a Corvette in my garage. Just drive the BRZ/FRS and you'll be sold...


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BRZZZZZZZZZZ 05-26-2014 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 1758425)
I'd trade it for an FR-S easily.

1. It is not an SS so it's already not that great being a V-6.
2. It is a tank. It desperately needs a redesign and weight reduction. Chevy needs to learn from Ford because the 5.0 is still faster than the Camaro, minus the Z28 now, but that one is in supercar range in price.
3. Blind spots. This car has the worst blind spots of any sports car I've sat in.

Don't get me wrong, I've owned a previous generation Camaro SS, (2002 anniversary model with the checkered racing flag stripes) and I do love them. They're a great bang for your buck car like the Mustang GT 5.0. They just really need to go back to that LS-1 style body which was lighter and make it a bit safer for me to consider trading my FR-S back for one. For now, the only car I'd trade my FR-S straight up for is a new Mustang GT 5.0 because 400 horsepower from the factory is just nuts for under 30k.

$75000 is supercar price range?

FR-S Matt 05-26-2014 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BRZZZZZZZZZZ (Post 1759709)
$75000 is supercar price range?

Try more like 90k with the good options. Just like a GTR except those can push over 100k.

BRZZZZZZZZZZ 05-26-2014 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 1759743)
Try more like 90k with the good options. Just like a GTR except those can push over 100k.

Not even close to supercar money and the GTR starts at over $25000 more than the Z/28 for just a basic GTR, and over $40000 more for a black edition.

bakerr6 05-26-2014 11:19 AM

btw, I've owned 5 fbodies, and actually went to compare the mustangs vs. camaros when I bought my mustang back in 2010. I preordered a new mustang with the new bodystyle and the 5.0 with the track package, before buying the frs. It's a completely different type of driving experience.

I have no regrets on my choice (my wife on the otherhand, really misses the space and the comfort of the mustang haha).

AVodka14 05-26-2014 12:03 PM

If you like the test drive in the Toyobaru. Don't trade in the Camaro. Private sell as you will get more out of it. Then take your money and buy a BRZ/FRS.

whamslam3 06-14-2014 09:01 PM

i got the chance to park my camaro next to a fr-s and damn my car is huge compared to it. i really liked how small the fr-s was. i didnt notice how big my car actually was until i saw them side by side. fr-s looks like a lot of fun to have as a dd

FRSRAVEN 06-18-2014 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by whamslam3 (Post 1796573)
i got the chance to park my camaro next to a fr-s and damn my car is huge compared to it. i really liked how small the fr-s was. i didnt notice how big my car actually was until i saw them side by side. fr-s looks like a lot of fun to have as a dd

I went from an FRS to a Mustang. Definitely a huge size difference which translates into the type of driving experience. Just know that the size and low weight of the twins comes at a cost. Increased NVH and less comfort. For some people that is not a big deal at all. For others it can be a hassle on a daily basis.

Take one on a nice long test drive to really get a feel for the car. Camaro's may be heavy, ponderous, and have poor viability, but they can cruise down the interstate for days are and very quiet inside. When I hit the toll roads and set cruise control at ~85mph, its effortless in my mustang. The FR-S was a much more taxing experience on the highway. I live an hour away from everything, so I'm not sure how much long distance commuting you actually do.

As for fuel economy, I had a lifetime average of about 27.5mpg over 10k miles in my FRS, and would do about 31mpg on the highway. You have to use premium gas though, which is something you don't have to in your Camaro. That offsets the increased economy of the FR-S.

RenegadeSS 06-18-2014 09:53 AM

I'm on the fence too. I love my car, but there are two things that are making me trade to either, and FRS or a 1LE. The first issue is the inherent problem with all Direct injection setups. The clogging of the intake valves. The next is the damn AisinY6 trans who hates to shift into second and third. Makes me look like a noob when I hit the strip.
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A little underhood love
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