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AVodka14 05-18-2014 11:57 PM

Best clay bar or recommendations
 
Does anyone have a recommendation on the best clay bar to use? What is your experience? I am just wanting to make sure I don't go cheap and get a bad one. If that is even possible.

I am getting ready to wash, clay, polish with PC, and wax. Basically a swirl removing project.

Thanks in advanced!

ZOMFGAARON 05-18-2014 11:59 PM

Chemical guys clay bars are great. I'd suggest buying them on Amazon for fast shipping.

Stay Fresh Car Care 05-19-2014 03:39 AM

2 Attachment(s)
Here you go :)

http://www.stayfreshcarcare.com/#!pr...correction-kit
http://www.stayfreshcarcare.com/#!pr...4525/poly-clay

Richard Grasa 05-19-2014 11:00 AM

If you don't want to wait on shipping, the Mother's or Meguiar's clay kits you can walk into Walmart, etc or a car parts store and buy are good.

Paul_S 05-19-2014 02:31 PM

Clay Magic owns the patents that keep others from marketing some of the better brands here in the states . So other then grades of clay ( fine , medium , coarse ) most clays are very similar. Over the counter products as Richard Garsa has mentioned are very good claying products. If you want to step up your game a little try and purchase some Richardo Clay from E-Shine out of Canada. They are now importing it to the states. I have no idea how they are getting around Clay Magic unless the patent has expired.

http://www.eshine.ca/riccardo_clay_o...w_8oz-4001.php

Paul_S 05-19-2014 02:32 PM

A friend just pm'ed me and said many companies are now importing Richardo Clay. This is good news to those looking for a great product.

TStafford 05-19-2014 02:55 PM

http://www.autogeek.net/detailing-clay-bar.html

Watch this video if you have not done this before. I did it and it worked great. Things I learned was 1) be sure to test the smoothness of each area after you finish as I should have hit a few spots again and 2) be sure to add sealant back to paint as you go.
Some products can be used as clay lube but I just used what came in the kit with the clay. You want a box to put the clay in so you can use it again and so it will stay good.

Stay Fresh Car Care 05-19-2014 02:57 PM

We will never understand a company that offers 5 different Clay bars. Please don't waste your money on products you don't need. Stay Fresh clay is unique in its own way because its self forming properties and ability to remove light and heavy contamination. Please keep in mind pressure plays a huge roll in how much contamination you are removing. obviously on a brand new car you do not want to go balls to walls superman pressure on the paint. It's always important to inspect the Clay during each section.

Diode Dynamics 05-19-2014 02:59 PM

I've had great results with Clay Magic

Nick C.

TStafford 05-19-2014 03:01 PM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqW1nzgyMNA"]How To Clay Bar Your Car Like a Pro - Remove Overspray Chemical Guys EPIC DETAILING - YouTube[/ame]

This is the video I meant to post. I think the clay he used was a one does all.

OnkelC 05-19-2014 03:10 PM

Might be a good place to ask: how are your experiences with clay blocks (those spongy things)?

Paul_S 05-19-2014 05:02 PM

I have tried numerous clay block and returned to regular clay and clay ( speedy prep towels ). As for different grades of clay , when you do enough claying of various paint conditions you will see the need. I don't sell clay , I just use it.
Always use the least aggressive product needed. Keep this in mind when claying. Claying will micro-mar your paint. The more aggressive the product or harder you press , the more marring it will cause. In the classes I have attended and also taught there is always someone that claims they clay and never mar the surface. With a scope they are proven to be incorrect. remember your painted surface is like a mirror. The more defect free and flat it is , the better the reflection will be.

Stay Fresh Car Care 05-19-2014 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul_S (Post 1746769)
I have tried numerous clay block and returned to regular clay and clay ( speedy prep towels ). As for different grades of clay , when you do enough claying of various paint conditions you will see the need. I don't sell clay , I just use it.
Always use the least aggressive product needed. Keep this in mind when claying. Claying will micro-mar your paint. The more aggressive the product or harder you press , the more marring it will cause. In the classes I have attended and also taught there is always someone that claims they clay and never mar the surface. With a scope they are proven to be incorrect. remember your painted surface is like a mirror. The more defect free and flat it is , the better the reflection will be.

This is exactly why we sell one bar. Its foolish and almost a scam to sell 5 different clay bars.
This industry is becoming flooded with EXTRA products that's not needed! Yes claying does causing micro marring and is pointless to use unless you are going to paint correct!

Paul_S 05-19-2014 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stay Fresh Car Care (Post 1746956)
This is exactly why we sell one bar. Its foolish and almost a scam to sell 5 different clay bars.
This industry is becoming flooded with EXTRA products that's not needed! Yes claying does causing micro marring and is pointless to use unless you are going to paint correct!


That is like saying you only need one fine grit of sand paper to strip a car.. If you rub 5000 grit sand paper long enough you could strip a fender or you could use the correct grit and save time and money. You keep selling what ever product you need to sir and I'll keep giving free information to those that ask. They can try it of ignore it , it's there choice. I'll let Richardo's know that the multiple grades of clay the sell are close to being a scam even thought the have some of the best clay produced. Have a great day.

White64Goat 05-19-2014 07:28 PM

Always had good experience with Adam's Polishes clay.

This sheds some light on the clay 'patents'.

Why do we call it Adam's MADE IN THE USA Detail Clay?For the better part of the past 7 years clay in the US was under the control of a patent which limited the production, sourcing, and sales of all detail clay. With the expiration of this patent earlier this year Adam's was once again able to formulate our own clay bars and make sure that not only the components, but the packaging, and even the label were made right here in the USA.
PRO-TIP: Adam's Detailing Clay Bars should be stored at moderate temperatures. If the clay will be stored for an extended period of time without use place into a sealable plastic bag. Add a light spray of Adam's Detail Spray in the bag to keep clay moist until the next use.
Contents: (2) 100gram Adam's Made in the USA Detailing Clay Bars with storage container

Paul_S 05-19-2014 08:09 PM

I knew they were close to being near the end of their patent protection. Now the other companies will play catch-up with other countries not covered by those restrictions.

AVodka14 05-19-2014 10:16 PM

Thanks for all the advice and information of personal experience. I plan to lightly go over sections of my car with clay with a lubricant called Infinite Use Detail Juice by Garry Dean. Of course after washing it thoroughly and keeping it cool inside a garage. Followed by use of PC DA on Hexlogic pad (orange) using Meguiar's 105 followed by 205 polish by Meguiar's using a Hexlogic white pad. Then a wax followed by sealant. I will probably just get a Meguiar's or Mother's clay bar.

Paul_S 05-19-2014 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVodka14 (Post 1747471)
Thanks for all the advice and information of personal experience. I plan to lightly go over sections of my car with clay with a lubricant called Infinite Use Detail Juice by Garry Dean. Of course after washing it thoroughly and keeping it cool inside a garage. Followed by use of PC DA on Hexlogic pad (orange) using Meguiar's 105 followed by 205 polish by Meguiar's using a Hexlogic white pad. Then a wax followed by sealant. I will probably just get a Meguiar's or Mother's clay bar.


Start with a test section 2'x2' and try what you have posted. If you have dialed it in and are happy with the results then do the whole car. If not adjust accordingly. if you have any further questions please feel free to contact me or if you call Garry , tell him Paul from Indy said hi.

sprintertrueno86 05-19-2014 10:34 PM

I'm gonna give nanoskin autoscrub speedy prep sponge a try

Diode Dynamics 05-20-2014 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprintertrueno86 (Post 1747500)
I'm gonna give nanoskin autoscrub speedy prep sponge a try

I've heard good things about that, don't forget to post up some pictures of the results

Nick C.

supramkivtt2jz 05-20-2014 10:00 AM

ive started using nanoskin recently and i love it.

Namuna 05-20-2014 10:16 AM

Clay Magic are the originators and they've got the patent...Sounds like a solid bet to try their product (which I have and works great):

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Simoniz-S57-Perfect-Finish-Detailing/dp/B0081OSRQQ"]Amazon.com: Simoniz S57 Perfect Finish Detailing Clay Bar: Automotive[/ame]

TStafford 05-20-2014 11:24 AM

When I clayed my car I used lots of clay lube and almost no pressure. I used about 1/3 of the bar in my hand pressed out to cover my fingers. In other words I tried to be as gentle as possible. If anything I left behind some stuff but it was still a night and day difference. Like I said had I checked using the ziplock bag feel test or even your fingers I could have hit some of the bad spots again. I used this clay - Pinnacle’s Ultra Poly Clay because it said it could be used often.
Work in small sections and take your time. It did not take that long for me. Most of the grit was on the upper surfaces like roof, hood, rear deck lid.

Turbo95eg6 05-22-2014 01:45 PM

Keep in mind that clay barring will most likely cause marring to the paint. Always follow up with polish and wax.

Kotu100 05-22-2014 02:03 PM

Can anyone recommend an aggressive clay? I'm looking for something with a bit more "bite" than the regular OTC mothers and meguiars.
Thanks!

mx5 2nr 05-22-2014 02:40 PM

You guys are way more expereinced in this than I. On my previous cars, I've always used Meguire's or Mothers clay bar. What's wrong with doing this? Sorry for the noob'ish question, just trying to learn something new...

sprintertrueno86 05-31-2014 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diode Dynamics (Post 1748152)
I've heard good things about that, don't forget to post up some pictures of the results

Nick C.

Quote:

Originally Posted by supramkivtt2jz (Post 1748254)
ive started using nanoskin recently and i love it.

Just used the nanoskin autoscrub sponge this morning. My BRZ is opticoated and never been clayed before.

Washed with ONR and used 30-35ml of ONR in to 32oz spray bottle as lubricant. Super easy to use and you can feel it pick up the contaminants. Didn't notice any marring and I waxed with Optimum car wax afterwards. Finished in less than 1.5hrs.

Sorry no pics as my car was covered in pollen afterwards. :thumbdown:

Paul_S 06-01-2014 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprintertrueno86 (Post 1770698)
Just used the nanoskin autoscrub sponge this morning. My BRZ is opticoated and never been clayed before.

Washed with ONR and used 30-35ml of ONR in to 32oz spray bottle as lubricant. Super easy to use and you can feel it pick up the contaminants. Didn't notice any marring and I waxed with Optimum car wax afterwards. Finished in less than 1.5hrs.

Sorry no pics as my car was covered in pollen afterwards. :thumbdown:

You are aware that your OC can be abraded off with a autoscrub sponge ? Tread lightly. You mentioned your ride had never been clayed. Why would anyone not decontaminate before applying OC 2.0 or OCP ? Once Optimum coatings are applied then only deep cleaning is needed to maintain along with either ONR or a proper power wash.

sprintertrueno86 06-01-2014 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul_S (Post 1771020)
You are aware that your OC can be abraded off with a autoscrub sponge ? Tread lightly. You mentioned your ride had never been clayed. Why would anyone not decontaminate before applying OC 2.0 or OCP ? Once Optimum coatings are applied then only deep cleaning is needed to maintain along with either ONR or a proper power wash.

OC was done professionally and it was decontaminated before it was applied. I have never clayed the car until now.

I think claying/autoscrub sponge once a year should be safe on OC. I did use the fine grade sponge.

Jive Turkey 06-02-2014 01:20 PM

auto scrub


/thread

voyager2285 06-02-2014 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprintertrueno86 (Post 1771034)
OC was done professionally and it was decontaminated before it was applied. I have never clayed the car until now.

I think claying/autoscrub sponge once a year should be safe on OC. I did use the fine grade sponge.

I'm in the same situation as you @sprintertrueno86. My OC was done professionally beginning of last year. Water still beads very well and I can dry my whole car with one towel, but now I'm starting to see black dots around the wheel arches (from tires???). I wanted to see if claybar can clear those up.


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