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Mikem53 05-12-2014 05:47 PM

Corrected the blind spot...
 
Finally took care of the blind spot on the drivers side..
I tried adjusting the mirrors in various recommended ways but to no avail..
I purchased the Rexpeed wide mirrors. They are both convex and polarized with
a bluish tint. Looks great against the raven color and is very effective! Completely eliminated the blind spot. Not too radical to where everything is small and distant.. Enough to give you a slightly wider view where you need it.
These have the OEM mounts so you just pop off the OEM and pop these in.. Can go back to stock just as easily.. Sweet !:happyanim:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7435/...ec8058ed_k.jpg[/url]

CruiseZen 05-12-2014 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikem53 (Post 1731975)
Finally took care of the blind spot on the drivers side..
I tried adjusting the mirrors in various recommended ways but to no avail..
I purchased the Rexpeed wide mirrors. They are both convex and polarized with
a bluish tint. Looks great against the raven color and is very effective! Completely eliminated the blind spot. Not too radical to where everything is small and distant.. Enough to give you a slightly wider view where you need it.
These have the OEM mounts so you just pop off the OEM and pop these in.. Can go back to stock just as easily.. Sweet !:happyanim:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7435/...ec8058ed_k.jpg[/url]

:thanks: I've been considering getting these mirrors and your picture has sold me on them. The blue color should also look good on my ultramarine.

Zelica 05-12-2014 06:08 PM

How is the removal of the old/installation of these mirrors?

Pseud0logik 05-12-2014 06:10 PM

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...id-blind-spots

Haven't had a problem with blind spots in ANY car since I started doing this.

Michael 05-12-2014 06:12 PM

Here's a video for you. Very simple.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvxSLvP3wek"]NEW Rexpeed Mirrors for Scion FR-S And Subaru BRZ - Install - YouTube[/ame]

Mikem53 05-12-2014 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zelica (Post 1732062)
How is the removal of the old/installation of these mirrors?

very easy.. 5 min tops

phobos512 05-12-2014 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseud0logik (Post 1732069)
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...id-blind-spots

Haven't had a problem with blind spots in ANY car since I started doing this.

There is a definite blind spot with the stock mirrors on the FR-S/BRZ even adjusted per the above. I notice it very strongly compared to my previous vehicle, which was a Ram 2500 with trailer mirrors.

I hope, if you don't think there is, that you pay very close attention when you change lanes. And that I'm nowhere nearby.

phobos512 05-12-2014 06:21 PM

I really wish they were available without the blue tint. I think it looks really lame.

vividracing 05-12-2014 06:21 PM

Pretty nice. I prefer the Broadway 350cm wide rear view mirror available in regular or convex.

rice_classic 05-12-2014 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseud0logik (Post 1732069)
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...id-blind-spots

Haven't had a problem with blind spots in ANY car since I started doing this.

This is good and way better then most folks! How often do you pull up behind a car and you can see drivers face in their sideview mirror and think to yourself.. "If I can see you from here in that mirror, you're doing it wrong."

I don't think the illustration goes far enough however, under the assumption that your rearview mirrors works.

I don't like Figure 2 or Figure 5. The side view mirrors are not for seeing behind you. If you can see behind your car with your sideview mirror then you aren't seeing enough of the lane next to you. In my car, I cannot see the sides of my car with my sideview mirrors, as it's "just out of shot". Why so wide? Because doing the "over the shoulder look" when merging on a freeway is a great way to rear-end the car in front of you when they peg their brakes for no reason (which happens almost every day around here because people think merging is done with the brake pedal).

I set my mirrors when at a stop light with other cars around me. Easy way to make sure all angles are properly covered.

http://media.caranddriver.com/images...s-original.jpg


edit: That's what I get for skipping the reading. Figure 2 and 5 are the "doing it wrong" examples with 1 and 4 being the correct examples.

8R6 05-12-2014 07:19 PM

side view mirrors arent supposed to show the side of your car. its supposed to show the lane next to you. thats the common problem with majority of drivers.

Pseud0logik 05-12-2014 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phobos512 (Post 1732089)
There is a definite blind spot with the stock mirrors on the FR-S/BRZ even adjusted per the above. I notice it very strongly compared to my previous vehicle, which was a Ram 2500 with trailer mirrors.

I hope, if you don't think there is, that you pay very close attention when you change lanes. And that I'm nowhere nearby.

I'm sure you'd be just fine if we met on the road. :burnrubber:

Perhaps my height or seating position comes into play, but with my mirrors adjusted correctly, I don't have any problem seeing a vehicle as it transitions from my rear-view mirror to my side-view mirror to my peripheral vision. I still look over my shoulder if I'm yielding to an off-ramp, because if traffic is a few lanes over it won't be in the mirrors. But I can see anything in the lanes next to me, which is what matters when merging and changing lanes.

Spend money on fancy mirrors if you want, I'm good. :iono:

Pseud0logik 05-12-2014 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 1732230)
I don't like Figure 2 or Figure 5.

Figures 2 and 5 are there to show the "traditional" way that mirrors are adjusted, which is not ideal. Figures 1 & 4 are the correct way to set your mirrors.

Rear view is for behind you, side view is for next to you. It's a simple concept.

CruiseZen 05-12-2014 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phobos512 (Post 1732093)
I really wish they were available without the blue tint. I think it looks really lame.

I believe they also come in a yellow tint.

AznKirby 05-12-2014 08:12 PM

What happens to the heated function of these mirrors?

Mikem53 05-12-2014 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRGT86 (Post 1732310)
side view mirrors arent supposed to show the side of your car. its supposed to show the lane next to you. thats the common problem with majority of drivers.

because of the wider view.. I kept the side visible for a reference point..
I can now see very clearly cars approaching my left side where there was a bad blind spot before no matter how it was adjusted. It is a good solution for me.. dont see why there cant be more than one way to get the view you need..

Mikem53 05-12-2014 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AznKirby (Post 1732415)
What happens to the heated function of these mirrors?

you can get the heated version for a few dollars more.. works the same as OEM

rice_classic 05-12-2014 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseud0logik (Post 1732409)
Figures 2 and 5 are there to show the "traditional" way that mirrors are adjusted, which is not ideal. Figures 1 & 4 are the correct way to set your mirrors.

Rear view is for behind you, side view is for next to you. It's a simple concept.

Thanks for pointing that out. I missed that. I guess it makes sense why I didn't like 2 and 5. :)

dem00n 05-12-2014 08:20 PM

I just turn my head, it's a bit cheaper.

aristo 05-12-2014 08:23 PM

I have these as well and I wouldn't conclude them to 'completely' eliminate the blind spots but they do help a good amount

The left side gives maybe 30% more viewing area but the right side mirror appears to almost be the same as stock visibility range maybe +5% more

fatoni 05-12-2014 08:25 PM

i dont think there is an issue with blind spots in this car either but im tall so when i sit very far back and my vision is coming from pretty high up in the cabin, it is near impossible to see the curbs when i try to parallel park with properly adjusted mirrors. this might be an option.

Pseud0logik 05-12-2014 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikem53 (Post 1732420)
It is a good solution for me.. dont see why there cant be more than one way to get the view you need..

Cutting off your roof will also take care of the blind spots. There are many ways to fix a problem, but not all of them are going to be practical. Like many others I am cheap and lazy and if I can fix a problem for free and with minimal effort I'm going to go that route.

I'm glad you're happy with your mirrors. They sure are sexy looking. :thumbup:

Ammunition 05-12-2014 10:35 PM

Nice! I love my Rexpeed mirrors :thumbsup:

humfrz 05-13-2014 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael (Post 1732071)
Here's a video for you. Very simple.

Well, now, that seems simple ..... but it's made out of plastic, I'm sure I'd break it ..... :bonk:


humfrz

Tromatic 05-13-2014 01:14 AM

As a MC rider, bet you could hide a bike in the "blind spot" that those mirrors have, too.

Mikem53 05-13-2014 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 1733043)
As a MC rider, bet you could hide a bike in the "blind spot" that those mirrors have, too.

Maybe... But not as easily as with the stock mirrors.. I always watch out for the cageless two wheel riders and give them lots of room.

Mikem53 05-13-2014 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 1732933)
Well, now, that seems simple ..... but it's made out of plastic, I'm sure I'd break it ..... :bonk:


humfrz

It's easy .. Even I was able to do it without breaking something!

brzr 05-13-2014 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phobos512 (Post 1732089)
There is a definite blind spot with the stock mirrors on the FR-S/BRZ even adjusted per the above. I notice it very strongly compared to my previous vehicle, which was a Ram 2500 with trailer mirrors.

I hope, if you don't think there is, that you pay very close attention when you change lanes. And that I'm nowhere nearby.

there is no blind spots if you position the mirrors correctly

you shouldn't be seeing your car in your mirrors.......you won't be hitting yourself

they need to be far out so when you tilt your head to the left you can see the edge of your car in the mirror, and if you position yourself in the middle of the car, and look into your right mirror, you should be able to see your car only then

i'm 5'2'' and don't have any problems with the blind spots.....i do shoulder checks as well to be 100% sure that nobody's around

they will teach you this at any advance driving school

headlikeahole 05-13-2014 02:10 PM

I want these but im iffy about how the blue mirrors would look with ultramarine. Anyone have this? thoughts?

Choco 05-13-2014 02:35 PM

Got this mirrors too recently with turn signals added. But I didn't buy it cause of the blind spot you speak of. I've been driving my brz for nearly two years and never realized about that blind spot. lol

CruiseZen 05-13-2014 05:59 PM

You really need two mirror settings. Out wide for highway driving so you can see what's going on in the lanes next to you, and closer in where you can see the side of your car for backing up and parallel parking. I'm hoping the Rexspeeds will allow good rearward vision for both of these needs.

Tromatic 05-13-2014 06:36 PM

How many of you don't do a head check as well? Do I need to add the FR-S/BRZ to the list of cars to stay far a way from when riding?

djmm 05-13-2014 06:57 PM

Head check is difficult due to the big blind spot obscured by pillars.

Tromatic 05-13-2014 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djmm (Post 1734782)
Head check is difficult due to the big blind spot obscured by pillars.

I must be some sort of freak of nature then.

LXXXV1 05-13-2014 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CruiseZen (Post 1734661)
You really need two mirror settings. Out wide for highway driving so you can see what's going on in the lanes next to you, and closer in where you can see the side of your car for backing up and parallel parking. I'm hoping the Rexspeeds will allow good rearward vision for both of these needs.

Glad someone had some sense! :thumbsup: That's where these mirrors came in handy for me. Wider view that avoided the blind spot and still had some of the car showing to line up. Gotta see what you're lining up against the curb/parking lines!

headlikeahole 05-13-2014 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djmm (Post 1734782)
Head check is difficult due to the big blind spot obscured by pillars.

The blind spot on the driver side isn't at all hidden by the B pillar unless your seat is all the way back and leaning pretty heavy. If you're a normal size and sitting like a normal person, the blind spot is perfectly visible if you put your chin to your shoulder. The passenger side requires leaning forward a little bit to see the blind spot.

The problem most people have is they are used to looking for their blind spot behind the B pillar (in most sedans). In the twins with the long window that goes further back, you just need to look over.

TL;DR

Do your head checks people

CruiseZen 05-13-2014 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headlikeahole (Post 1734849)
The blind spot on the driver side isn't at all hidden by the B pillar unless your seat is all the way back and leaning pretty heavy. If you're a normal size and sitting like a normal person, the blind spot is perfectly visible if you put your chin to your shoulder. The passenger side requires leaning forward a little bit to see the blind spot.

The problem most people have is they are used to looking for their blind spot behind the B pillar (in most sedans). In the twins with the long window that goes further back, you just need to look over.

TL;DR

Do your head checks people

Your body size and seat position do affect your ability to look backward effectively. I'm 6'2" with long legs and need to have the seat all the way back. If I turn my head like I do in my other cars all I see is the pillar in that critical spot. I'm planning to get the Rexspeed mirrors to increase my safety. Right now the only way to look back is to lean my upper body way forward and then take a quick look.

headlikeahole 05-13-2014 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CruiseZen (Post 1734877)
Your body size and seat position do affect your ability to look backward effectively. I'm 6'2" with long legs and need to have the seat all the way back. If I turn my head like I do in my other cars all I see is the pillar in that critical spot. I'm planning to get the Rexspeed mirrors to increase my safety. Right now the only way to look back is to lean my upper body way forward and then take a quick look.

I'm not arguing that the curved mirrors don't help, I plan on getting some myself. I'm making a point that the shoulder check is important regardless of what mirrors you have. People seem to think they can install these and never check their blind spots again.

kiichiro 05-13-2014 11:18 PM

Works ok with brz? Rexspeed?

Mikem53 05-13-2014 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiichiro (Post 1735318)
Works ok with brz? Rexspeed?

Yes.. They also have heated versions.


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