Ultramarine FRS VS 2011 TC Size
 

TC looks really bulky in comparison. FR-S is small but it's not as small as you would think. You can get a third person in the backseat easily if the passenger just pushes up the seat. Driver side... forget about it.

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What dealer were these pics taken at?

That looks like Balise Toyota Scion in West Springfield, MA on Riverdale Rd. That is a First-86 that the buyer decided he couldn't afford (because he brought his wife with him lol) when the car came in. It is an automatic.

i really like how toyota/subaru kept the vehicle very small and roomy instead of making it big and bulky like most new cars today

i still can't believe the fr-s costs 6 grand more than the tc...

still cant believe people buy the tC at all. :thumbdown:

what's wrong with the tc?

the new design is irksome. having owned a first gen tC, the car was just subpar. the difference in 6k is nothing since I personally think the tC should be 15k.

That is a terrible situation. I hope my wife wouldn't do that to me.

i'll quit wasting my time now...

you do that.

feg.

:lol:

Times like that, make me really appreciate that my wifey is totally on board with the FR-S!

:happyanim:

That would mak the Yaris or Xd less than 10k right and the IQ would then have to be 5k.

Yep, always best to have Momma on board. We all know when MomHawk's not happy no one is happy! :paddle:

(Just kidding, dear, really)

On the design, it's a total 180 from the predecessor. I liked the old one, so I bought one. I don't like the new one, so I'm not buying one. I'm gladly getting my FR-S. It is a smart move for them to maintain the line status of the tC. Subpar from it's predecessor, maybe...but some people really like the prevalence of hard plastic all over the place vs soft touch pleather.

15K is unrealistic, but I know that wasn't your point. You just prefer the old design over the new one. But there have been more 2nd gen tC's than 1st gen where I live, so it might be selling well...even at 19K.

Times like that make me appreciate being single now. :bellyroll:

Yeah, they really effed up the new TC design. The old one had nice clean lines, not unlike a small 3 series BMW coupe. The new one is all blocky and junky looking. Shame.

-J

I think this is an appropriate place to share some thoughts I had a few weeks ago:

I think the 2nd gen tC is a step down from the first gen as well, some parts are better but other parts are much worse.
plus when i got my tC, they were 15k to start, so even with the last couple years of the first gen i thought they were charging too much! lol

one thing to tell everyone who thinks it is too much now, wait until they release the 2014s and buy a left over 2013, Scion takes $1k off MSRP for old models once the new ones are released, and EVERY year, scion raises the prices a little, so this first round here now is likely the cheapest you will ever get to buy a new FR-S

I might do that if i don't want the RS. 1k off MSRP now is right where i think the price should start

lol, you did get yourself in trouble maaaan

i love how small this is! it's going to be quite the change when i have to drive the truck. damn thing is huge

Really there's a lot of aftermarket support for the tC not everything in life is about RWD. Wait till I get my turbo kit installed and try my tC....:slap:

btw I've got push botton start something Scion should have installed on the FR-S. :mad0260:

Look at this..!! :confused0068:

New hot chick seen....:D

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I agree all about the tC, the 1st gen looked so much better, it is one of the main reasons I stopped looking at it once I saw the FR-S. Of course the FR-S has a lot more reasons to get it than just looks, but looks is a huge part of it. Also 5k for something you love compared to something you like is a small difference.

I've been part of the tc crowd and I'm sorry but the fanboys are head over heels on the car. I switched to an ep3 civic and was much happier with the feel of the car. It wasn't about power, in the tc I felt like I was driving a cobalt or a neon on the road. The design of the first gen was nice though, the second gen is just...meh

I prefer the tails of the tC over those of the FR-S

Plus it even has a duckbill

Toyota went stupid on designing the GT86 and struck gold designing the tC

/troll

But seriously, I prefer the tC's tails SHAPE over those of the FRS

Well I had a first gen tC and now I have a gen2 RS-7 tC and there are things I like about both of them. Lets get passed the RWD vs FWD thing for a minute and talk about the two cars my tC RS-7 was $24k and I purchased it new for $20k and the FRS I posted is $28k and I can buy it for $25k so there's $5k difference in price not so bad IMO.
Now I can walk around the FRS and find things I don't like about it but the only thing I don't like about the tC is Toyota could have made it RWD or "Poor Man's" AWD car. I'm going to buy a FRS but not this one as I don't like the firestorm color and my dealer told me he could get me any color with any options so it's not a big deal. Now as for both of these new cars go they can't out run or drift better than my real Toyota sports car the Supra.


Snoopyalien24 I hope you didn't just call me a troll as I've owned 43 Toyotas over the years and I've been modding the from 1970 till now.