New Turbo Coupe Honda S2000
 

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/honda/8...0-to-be-reborn

http://static.autoexpress.co.uk/site...?itok=Q7rRbl8U

"Honda is set to revive the S2000 and bring us an all-new small sports roadster

Honda is set for a massive transformation from sensible to sporty, and leading the revolution are three new sports cars, which include a spiritual successor to the S2000 and an all-new NSX.

Like the original Honda S2000, this mid-engined sports car – revealed in our exclusive image - is set to be a coupe rather than a convertible and it will sit in the middle of the three cars.

The Honda S660 with its three-cylinder turbo engine will sit below it, while the the hybrid Honda NSX will be the manufacturer's flagship performance model.

A Honda insider told us about a secret in-house meeting at Honda's Tochigi R&D centre in Japan to discuss the potential for this new mid-sized sports car, which would be part of the world’s first-ever mid-engined trio of sports cars from one manufacturer. From what we’ve heard, there’s a strong chance this new Honda S2000 will get the green light.

The Honda S2000 is similar in looks to the S660 and NSX, with all three cars getting sharp lines, a bold grille and narrow headlights giving them a character unlike any of Honda’s current models.

Hybrid tech to combine performance and economy

Under the skin of the new Honda S2000, we’ve been told to expect a revised version of the 2.0-litre 350bhp turbo engine, which will power the next generation Honda Civic Type R.

Some hybrid tech - developed in conjunction with the McLaren Formula 1 team - should also feature and it's set to allow for 0-62mph in around five seconds, but with an economy of around 40mpg.

Honda is looking at adding a simplified version of the all-wheel-drive petrol-electric system used in the NSX.

The mid-size Honda S2000 replacement will be the last of Honda's three new sports cars to arrive and it's expected to go on sale in 2017 for around £35,000. The new Honda NSX is expected to arrive by the first part of 2015, making it the first of the new models to go into production.

The new Honda NSX will be powered by a V6 engine and three electric motors, which develop more than 400bhp. The front wheels get one motor each for the ultimate in torque vectoring. Honda is aiming for a price of around £100,000.

The Honda S660, meanwhile, is first expected to arrive in Japan towards the end of 2015. It'll be powered by a 600cc, 64bhp engine, although a more powerful 1.0-litre turbocharged three-cylinder is rumoured to be on the way for Europe."

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...s3bbbd52e.jpeg

That car looks strangely familiar. Also, $58,000? I'm good, thanks.

I believe you can not simply do exchange rate. Look at the 86, its 25k+ there, same here.

All that talk about AWD and hybrid does not excite me much.

The hybrid system doesn't concern me so much, as long as it's done right. Hopefully since its being developed in conjunction with the McLaren F1 team, it'll be similar to the McLaren P1, where the electric motor fills in between shifts or when the car is off boost.

The AWD is concerning. It can be done extremely well, like the Nissan GTR, but the original S2K was RWD. They should stick to that to maintain the spirit of the car.

"Like the original Honda S2000, this mid-engined sports car – revealed in our exclusive image - is set to be a coupe rather than a convertible and it will sit in the middle of the three cars."

I swear this sentence, makes no sense....the original Honda S2000 was definitely an FR Roadster. Or am I just reading thing wrong and my English is terrible.

That sentence is just written really poorly. I think they meant that both were mid-engined, which isn't really correct either...... the S2000 was front-mid.

As for the S2000 RWD vs AWD, yeah.... same with the NSX though, and that's going AWD. Looks like everyone is going AWD now.

Not happening...

I do like the fact that Honda is actually doing something about their images. I just hope they don't take as long as they did with the NSX to get anything out. I would love another S2k or any sports car from Honda.

Interesting but it's highly likely it'll be just like the Civic Type R... Not coming to America.

My Dream S2000:

- Coupé
- 2 Seats
- Mid-Front Engine
- Rear-Wheel Drive
- Manual
- 2.0l I4 Turbo, +350 PS, 8.000 RPM Redline
- 1200 kg

Eh... I'll believe it when I see it.

So much of what that article claims sounds 100% implausible. If they're going to put a turbo on the engine in the civic type R, it won't be a 2L. They'll go smaller to keep economy up. I would bet a ~260-270hp N/A engine if they keep the weight down, or ~280hp boosted.

Fanatics argue that it's mid-engined because the engine sits behind the front axle, sometimes you can get them to concede that it's 'front-mid-engine' or 'mid-front-engine'.

The thing that gets me is 'Like the original ... set to be a coupe' wtf.

Also what cars did the S2k sit between before? The NSX was discontinued in 2005 so it wasn't there for half it's life, what sat underneath it? Civic Si?

Edit: More importantly an article with zero sources and outrageous claims, this really doesn't warrant much discussion.

We'll actually, you might be able to argue that the Acura RSX or Honda Integra and it's type R version sat under the S2k, when the S2k was first out the Si wasn't a coupe it was a hatch like the rest of the world. The sedan CTR Japan only didn't come out till the end of the Integra, S2k was still around when they had that CTR so technically I think S2k was the halo for the years The NSX was gone. You're mostly right though, this has been the only article online with this rumor too. But after checking in on the Honda side of things and their main forums temple of vtec, there seem to be some similar rumor. Althought they're saying a 280hp coupe, I don't think well see the s660 here state side, I mean a three cylinder 105hp light convertible doesn't seem like something people want over here we have miata for that, and people already complain about its hp

A) This article is unfounded clickbait. The likelihood of Honda having the impetus to deliver something like this is remote.

B) Even if they did have the impetus to do this, what's the possibility of it happening anytime soon? Wasn't the "new" NSX supposed to be launched in 2012 or something?

C) Even if they did do something like this mid-engine hybrid S2k, which they won't, the claimed price is $35k? Well that's proof right there that it will fail, for the same reason the S2000 did. It's too expensive. Economically, America's middle class is shrinking faster than ever before and the $35k+ price range just isn't going cut it. They need to deliver a sports car in the $20-25k range. No more "middle range". Make a car for the rich folk and one for the poor folk because there just isn't many folk in the middle.

D) Why would I want this? Let's think about it. Turbo, Hybrid, AWD + current safety regs. Can you say fat ass? No way this car is under 3000lbs. Does 300hp and 40mpg get me excited, yes but something with those number has been "just around the corner" for over 10 years now from more than just Honda. I'll believe it when it shows up on a showroom floor (preferably under 3000lbs).

E) "Honda". Errr wrong. At $35k, that thing better have a damn Acura badge on it.

I think we will see a 1L or maybe 1.3L version of the S660 here in the US and in Europe as an entry level competitor, undercutting the FR-S/BRZ & beating Toyota's MR2 remake to the market at around $20k new, and the new S2000 won't come until later on and will compete in the 30-45k sports coupe range against cars like the next generation Nissan Z.

I think you hit the nail on the head, although it seems that Honda doesn't want to take the FR route and save money they rather stay safe with the FF route, or try to push that 4wd system into their cars. It's also somewhat known that the current CEO favors Mid engine cars, he seems to think that Mid engine is the only type of sport car there is, therefore he's an advocate of MR layouts. Honda has always tried to be different from their Nissan and Toyota competition. When all the other companies had FR, they had MR and FF. If this car is to sit as a Halo of Honda here in the states then 35K does seem plausible, and people did buy the S2k at the 34K price. If it was an acura, there's just that excuse to say upbrand and charge you close to cayman territory if it's an MR.

I wonder what are the chances they'll try to turbo charge it for extra power,they have good knowledge on this front and they've used it for their CTR and SUV in the past, I wonder if this will be something, since Honda is really pushing it's one great platform, the FIT. Let's not forget the Next Z, Nissan can't seem to take a hint, but if they did and a 240Z revival happens then we're gonna have some of that 90s golden age back fellas. At least I'm hopeful.

The Honda rumors are strong on the internet... STRONG!

From 2012: "Honda will release an All-new Roadster in 2014!"
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-new...-ar135267.html

From 2013: "CRZ Type R to battle the FRS/BRZ/GT86"
http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut...rz_scion_fr_s/

From 2013: "Honda working on baby s2000" Jalopnick: Filed under "shit we heard"
http://jalopnik.com/honda-could-poss...ess-1303121563

From 2013: "S660 Concept debuted at Tokyo Motor Show" -Best part about this article is this Honda Tradition: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ebuts-in-tokyo

If the rumors were to ever be true and Honda sold an AWD, Turbo, 300hp, 40mpg sports car for $35k, it'd be hard to justify a Cayman S.

Yes, people did buy S2ks in the first 2 years but as of 2002 they only sold 9,684 units in the States and it declined every year from there on. It was too little car for too much money. It needed to be 40hp and $9k less.

Yeah I feel like, Honda thought it was special, well it is it hold such a special place in my heart. And it was for some anniversary thing too, maybe Honda felt that it was so exclusive that the 34K prize was justified. If say something like the S2k came out right now here for 2015, and it's got the 240hp and good MPG, being the same size, but modern styling for 35K I would agree with you. I wouldn't pay more than 30K because if they made a modernized Z that gave you like 305hp for 35K That's more justified. Then again it's Honda, I've lost some faith in them and I'm a big Honda enthusiast.

If Honda ever does come out with a good RWD NA or even Turbo coupe the BRZ will be for sale with a quickness... super quickness.. might not even bother taking the parts off it.

Honda and Acura should roll out that NSX already. The damn thing has been teased too long and it'll need a refresh the minute the first orders are in.

However, if this level 99 clickbait is somewhat true, it would be a pretty cool car. The Si engine would be more realistic tho. And if Honda still wants to be boring, they can inject some life into Acura. The NSX is unattainable for 98% of their base.

I think some people are getting confused. The S660 and this "new S2000" are suppose to be two different cars.

S660
http://www.diseno-art.com/news_conte...-concept-1.jpg

New S2000
http://static.autoexpress.co.uk/site...-s2000-new.jpg

NSX
http://carpaper.net/wp-content/uploa...te-picture.jpg

Its only been about 2 years since the NSX concept was shown off. Production version has been confirmed for 2015. All in all, a 3 years wait isn't too bad.

Yup, Honda has said the new NSX will cost even more than the GT-R.

Dibs on the brakes.

Heres an older article from 2010.

New Honda S2000 plans revealed

Small mid-engined, rear-drive successor to the Honda S2000 is likely to be a hybrid

http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/site...51600x1060.jpg

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...plans-revealed

Hmmm I need to see more pictures for it to excite me.


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it felt longer because we were hearing rumors of the V10 car first and then it got cancelled then this one came out. The V10 ended up being in JGTC only and Honda was without anything for a long time. It felt long, it might not have been long, but it felt very very long.

I know what you mean. But the V10 HVS and the V6 hybrid NSX are two totally different cars.

I guess its kinda like saying we have been waiting since 2007 (FT-HS) for a new Supra. But in reality the 2014 FT-1 is a totally different concept.

Hey Honda how about another ITR or RWD 9000RPM NA FR convertible for under $40k please and thanks.

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They mentioned the Third mid tier car here too, Rumors been around for a while it seems.

The S660 is a Kei car, never going to make it to the US, and besides it would be underpowered compared to a modern "sporty" car.

I wish they'd make it into a full size car though :/ Don't much care for Toyota's crappy engines, but they are the only Japanese manufacturer to have made low end MR cars and have stated the intention of making another one.

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http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/5/1...350HP-7720231/

That's just a repost of the same article. A few websites have reposted it now. They keep converting the price to USD based on exchange rates too, which I think is wrong. I don't think it's going to be anywhere near $60k...

I enjoy the top-down aspect of the s2000 more than I ever thought I would.... but I'd still easily trade it for a more rigid, more aerodynamic coupe. Good hardtops for the s2000 are way overpriced. $4k and up...

:confused0068: Holy Crap! $4k for a hardtop?!!?!!! And here I am thinking I overpaid for the HT for my Miata ($400 + 450 for OEM glass/seals).

If Honda went with a convertible hardtop like various Mercedes convertibles, would you pay more for it?

nope, still lose the structure of the top compared to a coupe design.