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Chen 05-09-2014 02:41 PM

Spacers and wheel wobble.
 
So I recently got spacers and the spacer sits flush on the hub and from what I an tell the wheel is sitting flush against the spacer. But when I drive, I can see my wheel wobbling on both sides. Any reason why this would happen?

wparsons 05-09-2014 02:50 PM

Wobbling in which direction? Up and down, or side to side?

Chen 05-09-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1726123)
Wobbling in which direction? Up and down, or side to side?

Side to side.

mkivalex 05-09-2014 04:50 PM

Are they hubcentric?

Chen 05-09-2014 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mkivalex (Post 1726421)
Are they hubcentric?

They are. But I have have figured out the problem. It looked like when I bolted my wheels onto the spacer. It looks like my wheels are against the lug nuts. Do they offer shorter luts to hold spacers?

2point0 05-09-2014 08:26 PM

Some wheels have pockets on the back face to accomodate studs poking out, to an extent. Mine have this and I still needed 22mm in order for the wheel to mount flush to the spacer.

Alternately, you can grind/cut your studs down. You can also sell the wheels and get a set that has the offset you want without spacers. I'm not aware of any shorty studs, usually they're stock (about 1") or 3" extended.

Chen 05-09-2014 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 2point0 (Post 1726951)
Some wheels have pockets on the back face to accomodate studs poking out, to an extent. Mine have this and I still needed 22mm in order for the wheel to mount flush to the spacer.

Alternately, you can grind/cut your studs down. You can also sell the wheels and get a set that has the offset you want without spacers. I'm not aware of any shorty studs, usually they're stock (about 1") or 3" extended.

My wheels do have pockets. And the studs go into the pocket. It's the nuts now.

kberkel 05-09-2014 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chen (Post 1727030)
My wheels do have pockets. And the studs go into the pocket. It's the nuts now.

So you have the pockets in between the holes like this, but the pockets aren't wide enough to accommodate the nuts?

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/imag.../wheel_hub.jpg

wparsons 05-10-2014 09:12 AM

Get some OEM open ended nuts? That might buy you a couple mm of clearance, which by the sound of it is probably all you need.

DarrenDriven 05-14-2014 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chen (Post 1726452)
They are. But I have have figured out the problem. It looked like when I bolted my wheels onto the spacer. It looks like my wheels are against the lug nuts. Do they offer shorter luts to hold spacers?

Whew, it's a good thing that YOU figured it out. By yourself. :) LOL

Chen 05-15-2014 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kberkel (Post 1727263)
So you have the pockets in between the holes like this, but the pockets aren't wide enough to accommodate the nuts?

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/imag.../wheel_hub.jpg

Correct.

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Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1727757)
Get some OEM open ended nuts? That might buy you a couple mm of clearance, which by the sound of it is probably all you need.

That's where I'm running into trouble. I can't find any. And I'd what mm I will need or where to will find it.

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Originally Posted by DarrenDriven (Post 1737361)
Whew, it's a good thing that YOU figured it out. By yourself. :) LOL

Haha yes..... All by myself.

Vten 05-15-2014 03:32 PM

I believe I had the same problem with my spacer nut being to tall ... I believe it was 17mm tall. I bought the 12mm one off one of the eBay seller and it cleared my problem.

If you still need them I can check the eBay seller , shoot me a pm with your email so I can forward the email to you . Hope this help.

Jason@DSG 05-15-2014 04:34 PM

It's surprising to hear the ones that came with it were too long. What brand are these?

King Tut 05-15-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chen (Post 1726452)
They are. But I have have figured out the problem. It looked like when I bolted my wheels onto the spacer. It looks like my wheels are against the lug nuts. Do they offer shorter luts to hold spacers?

Go to a hardware store and get some standard nuts in 12x1.25 size.

Chen 06-05-2014 09:14 PM

Updating thread. I went to auto zone and les swab and they didn't offer any shorter lugs. Any other place I could to and see if they offer them?

Gunman 06-05-2014 11:36 PM

http://www.mcmaster.com/

octavio.molina.1985 06-06-2014 06:29 PM

I tried wheel spacers in the past and it got frustrated with all the issues I ran into. I ended up getting hub adapters you don't have to worry about lug nuts or putting stress on the stud and risk the stud from shearing or anything, money well spent ;)


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Vic 06-06-2014 07:13 PM

does your wheels have hub rings? usually hub rings prevent the shaking and wobbling.

octavio.molina.1985 06-06-2014 08:21 PM

I hAve hub adapters for now since I can't afford rim n tires right now. I just moved from NY to Cali last august so I'm kinda saving up. I researched just about everything I wanted for my frs. I decided coil overs and stance was the first thing I had to improve. So I have 35mm wheel hub adapters rear and 20mm adapter in front, stock wheels. So the car looks really nice with the stock wheel rim flush with the fender. I lowered my car about 1.75 inches. I get no rub, love how it rides. For now that'll do until the next mod.


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wheelhaus 06-06-2014 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic (Post 1783012)
does your wheels have hub rings? usually hub rings prevent the shaking and wobbling.

Did you read the thread? Hubcentricity is fine, the spacer's lug nuts are too thick and are hitting the backside of the wheel, preventing it from sitting flush.

I had the same issue with front 20mm spacers, about 3/16 wobble side to side. I ended up shaving my lug nuts down a couple mm with a Dremel and a fiber cutoff wheel, Checked them each with a caliper, and rounded the outer corners slightly. It took some time but worked great. My snow wheels are steelies, and the steel is stamped into shape. They have a relief stamped into them between the holes, but the edges of the relief are rounded (not machined) and hit the lugnuts. The rear is a 25mm, and the lug nuts are just below the surface so no prob there.

octavio.molina.1985 06-06-2014 09:08 PM

Oh okay, sorry I misread that. The actual wheel hub adapters came with rings but not stock wheels and stock hubs. Without the custom hub rings I would of gotten that wobble as well.


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Chen 06-07-2014 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by wheelhaus (Post 1783136)
Did you read the thread? Hubcentricity is fine, the spacer's lug nuts are too thick and are hitting the backside of the wheel, preventing it from sitting flush.

I had the same issue with front 20mm spacers, about 3/16 wobble side to side. I ended up shaving my lug nuts down a couple mm with a Dremel and a fiber cutoff wheel, Checked them each with a caliper, and rounded the outer corners slightly. It took some time but worked great. My snow wheels are steelies, and the steel is stamped into shape. They have a relief stamped into them between the holes, but the edges of the relief are rounded (not machined) and hit the lugnuts. The rear is a 25mm, and the lug nuts are just below the surface so no prob there.

I'm thinking that's what it's coming down too. The only thing I'm worried about is shaving to much and ruining the thread or the steering the nut.

LSR 06-07-2014 04:31 PM

how many mm spacer did you use?

octavio.molina.1985 06-07-2014 06:01 PM

For my car or is that question for vic?



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wheelhaus 06-07-2014 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chen (Post 1783715)
I'm thinking that's what it's coming down too. The only thing I'm worried about is shaving to much and ruining the thread or the steering the nut.

"or the steering the nut?"
Do you mean destroying the nut?

If you do have to go this route, honestly I wouldn't worry about it too much. If you're only removing one or two threads worth, it's not really going to make a difference in holding power. Second, the direction the nut threads onto the stud is such that all the good threads will be engaged first, and the last thread that was cut will be pushed outward as the lug is tightened, so no debris should be caught between the threads. Also, the nut is steel, so you'd have to REALLY botch it up to make it unusable...

You could also clamp the nut in a vise and use the cutoff wheel back and forth vertically to shave a little bit at a time, or use it like a meat slicer and shave off a section in one swoop. If you're good with power tools, you could use a bigger angle grinder and gnarf off more at once, and then finish with a Dremel.

Here's the Dremel cutoff kit I recommend. It's sturdy and has a quick swap feature. WAY better than the individual discs that you have to replace with a small screwdriver. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Dremel-Cu...8-01/202263203

jflogerzi 06-07-2014 08:48 PM

Why not get spacers that do not have built in studs and just replace stock studs with longer ones. With the help of a member I plan to do that today along with installing eibach Pro Springs. 20mm rears and 15mm in the front. I am afraid its gonna poke to much but we shall see.

wheelhaus 06-07-2014 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 1784501)
Why not get spacers that do not have built in studs and just replace stock studs with longer ones. With the help of a member I plan to do that today along with installing eibach Pro Springs. 20mm rears and 15mm in the front. I am afraid its gonna poke to much but we shall see.

Longer studs are ideal, but unfortunately require a lot more work. Bolt on spacers are supposed to be quick and easy. :sigh:

reeves 06-30-2014 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chen (Post 1726105)
So I recently got spacers and the spacer sits flush on the hub and from what I an tell the wheel is sitting flush against the spacer. But when I drive, I can see my wheel wobbling on both sides. Any reason why this would happen?

What brand spacers did you get? I'm thinking of getting spacers too and would like to avoid this problem if possible.


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