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stugray 05-09-2014 01:11 AM

Who has the lowest VIN?
 
Mine is a 2013 GBS.

VIN ends in 0102.

Dealer said he did a quick search in the DB and couldnt find a BRZ with a lower VIN.

Anyone else have lower than 102?

stugray 05-09-2014 11:25 AM

cmon! no-one?

2pt5RS 05-09-2014 11:28 AM

Given that there were more than 10k made, you should include the last 5.

having said that, mine is 01034. Picked up June 2012.

Annahra 05-09-2014 11:30 AM

My first one was 00254. Didn't pay much attention to the 2014 VIN.

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stugray 05-09-2014 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2pt5RS (Post 1725650)
Given that there were more than 10k made, you should include the last 5..

Ok, anyone have lower than 00102?

Some have said that 00100 was the first production number, but the dealer could not find any valid VINs in the SOA DB smaller than 102.

tahdizzle 05-09-2014 12:08 PM

Mine says "brown".

Sony 05-11-2014 10:48 PM

00301 here

tonystewart 05-11-2014 11:48 PM

262

Chauntalei 05-12-2014 12:05 AM

Took mine home May 2012, and my last 5 are 01278.

stugray 05-12-2014 12:56 PM

So I inquired with SOA about my VIN. This was their response:

"We are unable to state how many production 2013 BRZ models were produced prior to your BRZ. Yes, your BRZ was one of the earliest produced for on-road use. But, we cannot state what number your BRZ was. I can also advise that 12,000 2013 BRZ models were produced. The production date of your vehicle was 3/20/2012."

So I sent a slightly-irritated tone email back telling them that is unacceptable.

Anyone on this forum have access to SOA VIN database?
I am guessing that the statement above means:

"We are too busy surfing porn to look this up for you as that might take a couple of extra clicks and ruin my day"

I am positive that they have the information, and have no idea whay they would hesitate to tell me...

alpine 05-12-2014 02:17 PM

mine ends is 0048

industrial 05-12-2014 02:18 PM

I'm 00327. Why is this such a big deal for you? I really don't think these cars will become collectors items. They are too common. Don't think classic muscle car auction stuff, think more like old 240sx or miata. They will be fun cars that'll be driven their entire lives.

krayzie 05-12-2014 02:41 PM

BRZ I don't want an early production one due to production problems. It'll be a classic if you keep it fully stock. :D

So 12000 is that US only or worldwide?

Superhatch 05-12-2014 04:10 PM

0266.

stugray 05-12-2014 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpine (Post 1731243)
mine ends is 0048

That is interesting since I got this response on the GBS registry thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laika (Post 1559909)
:w00t:

I saw two that were lower, one in the 0060's and another in the 0080's. Both cars were pre-production models from SOA so...you may have one of the very first production models in the states.

So if you have #48, then you have a pre-production model.
Did you purchase it anywhere special?

You should respond on the GBS registry thread.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59132


Quote:

Originally Posted by industrial (Post 1731246)
Why is this such a big deal for you

If there was a chance yours was the first production model in the US, wouldnt you want to know?

Superhatch 05-12-2014 04:17 PM

I'm not sure they will ever reach classic status. A un-modded version in good condition will surely sell for more than a modded version as today's older cars do.

Prior to this car I paid $4000 for a near mint, two owner, dealership only maintenance 91 civic Si. But in very good condition the same car goes for $3k. So 25 years from now, you might get an extra $1k if you keep it mint!!! :P

Tainen 05-12-2014 05:10 PM

00230.


First SWP delivered in the country, 3rd confirmed BRZ delivered.

spitz 05-12-2014 05:27 PM

While the twins may never be considered true 'collectibles,' the first production FRS/BRZ most definitely WILL.

Example: The Datsun 240Z's average price now ranges from about $8,000 - $25,000, depending on condition. 101,575 240Z's were produced between 1969 and 1970. MSRP in 1970 was $3,500, but with inflation you pretty much break even. HOWEVER, I've heard of offers to the owner of #13 (1st production 240Z) of over $70k. You probably would do better invested in the market, but hey... if cars were a good investment, I'd have more.

Just my 2 cents.

alpine 05-12-2014 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stugray (Post 1731643)
That is interesting since I got this response on the GBS registry thread:



So if you have #48, then you have a pre-production model.
Did you purchase it anywhere special?

You should respond on the GBS registry thread.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59132



If there was a chance yours was the first production model in the US, wouldnt you want to know?

I bought my car used.

edit: I am 0049 not 48

https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/...09221042_n.jpg

pic for proof

Prog 05-12-2014 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stugray (Post 1731008)
So I inquired with SOA about my VIN. This was their response:

"We are unable to state how many production 2013 BRZ models were produced prior to your BRZ. Yes, your BRZ was one of the earliest produced for on-road use. But, we cannot state what number your BRZ was. I can also advise that 12,000 2013 BRZ models were produced. The production date of your vehicle was 3/20/2012."

So I sent a slightly-irritated tone email back telling them that is unacceptable.

Anyone on this forum have access to SOA VIN database?
I am guessing that the statement above means:

"We are too busy surfing porn to look this up for you as that might take a couple of extra clicks and ruin my day"

I am positive that they have the information, and have no idea whay they would hesitate to tell me...

They really don't have any obligation to tell you that information. Not sure why you really care so much. It's not going to be worth anything extra unless you kept it in a garage, undriven, with 6 miles on the odometer.

jeebus 05-12-2014 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpine (Post 1731928)
I bought my car used.

edit: I am 0049 not 48

https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/...09221042_n.jpg

pic for proof

WTF manufactured in 2011?

Zed 05-12-2014 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeebus (Post 1732435)
WTF manufactured in 2011?

Probably more likely that its November of 2012

tahdizzle 05-12-2014 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by industrial (Post 1731246)
I'm 00327. Why is this such a big deal for you? I really don't think these cars will become collectors items. They are too common. Don't think classic muscle car auction stuff, think more like old 240sx or miata. They will be fun cars that'll be driven their entire lives.


The term "collectors items" is subjective. Its like saying an ae86, mkIV supra, 300zx, 240sx, 180sx, mr2s, starions.... the list goes on and on, are not collector items because they are "mass produced".

Production number =/= collector status.

alpine 05-12-2014 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeebus (Post 1732435)
WTF manufactured in 2011?

lol wut is this even brz yo? :confused0068:

jeebus 05-12-2014 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zed (Post 1732445)
Probably more likely that its November of 2012

Mine is month/year

Zed 05-13-2014 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeebus (Post 1732854)
Mine is month/year

Well I stand (couchpotatosit) corrected. :confused0068:

krayzie 05-13-2014 02:46 PM

First batch of BRZ was November 2011 when it was first introduced.

chaoskaze 05-13-2014 02:53 PM

Gratz Alpine on having one of the first batch BRZ + it's a GBS....An unicorn BRZ indeed

ZionsWrath 05-13-2014 03:18 PM

unless you have 01 or maybe 86 who cares. I could have bought a 300~ but dealer was being a **** so I have a 800~, approximately late may delivery 2012. Honestly that never came into my decision lol

jdwingnut 05-13-2014 04:16 PM

stugray, congrats on having quite possibly the lowest VIN in the US out of the 12K that SOA says come in the first year.

Mine's 01665 and it matters not to me what the VIN is, as this is the car I love to drive. I have no intentions of trying to save it as a collectors car. It's driven every day.

I average 5K miles every 3 months, have done a header back exhaust, intake, ECU tune and various suspension upgrades, but nothing drastic. I intend to keep it NA, well maintained, and drive it for a long, long time. It makes me smile every time I get into it, enjoy your ride, albeit #00102 :happyanim:

alpine 05-13-2014 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdwingnut (Post 1734373)
stugray, congrats on having quite possibly the lowest VIN in the US out of the 12K that SOA says come in the first year.

Mine's 01665 and it matters not to me what the VIN is, as this is the car I love to drive. I have no intentions of trying to save it as a collectors car. It's driven every day.

I average 5K miles every 3 months, have done a header back exhaust, intake, ECU tune and various suspension upgrades, but nothing drastic. I intend to keep it NA, well maintained, and drive it for a long, long time. It makes me smile every time I get into it, enjoy your ride, albeit #00102 :happyanim:

but I have the lowest :cry:

jdwingnut 05-13-2014 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpine (Post 1734536)
but I have the lowest :cry:

I missed that one, I stand corrected :bonk:

wbradley 05-13-2014 09:54 PM

My FR-S was produced in April 2012. First round of deliveries here. Not sure if the VIN directly correlates with production sequence. Mine ends in 1855.

Wikipedia says first production began Feb2, 2012 for March deliveries (JDM?). Initially there were 7000 orders for Toyota and 3500 for Subaru. It makes sense they would have made 1855 for Toyota by the time mine was produced.

Would be interested to see production date stickers for the really low numbered units.

alpine 05-13-2014 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 1735153)
My FR-S was produced in April 2012. First round of deliveries here. Not sure if the VIN directly correlates with production sequence. Mine ends in 1855.

Wikipedia says first production began Feb2, 2012 for March deliveries (JDM?). Initially there were 7000 orders for Toyota and 3500 for Subaru. It makes sense they would have made 1855 for Toyota by the time mine was produced.

Would be interested to see production date stickers for the really low numbered units.

check out the first page I posted my Vin/prod. date

silvercar 05-14-2014 05:11 PM

Mine was manufactured March 2012 VIN ends in 486, picked it up June 2012.

Dadhawk 05-14-2014 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prog (Post 1731985)
... It's not going to be worth anything extra unless you kept it in a garage, undriven, with 6 miles on the odometer.

Actually not true. In some cases the VIN plate is worth as much as the car. If you can find a completely junked #1 or #2 production car of just about any model and restore it to its build sheet, the value increases tremendously.

For example, in a recent episode of "Fast and Loud" they restored the #1 and #2 Firebird, in absolutely horrible condition (which were production show cars), to "Concours standards" and sold them (including the restoration fees) for over $600,000 for the pair. The did have matching engines which helped. A "regular" first year Firebird would not sell for anywhere near that amount I do not believe.

Same is true for aircraft by the way. A good portion of WWII warbirds you see are really only "original" in data plate only. They can be totally crushed and wrecked but as long as you have that data plate, its "original".

Sort of the old adage of if you have a wooden ship and replace the planks one at a time, when is it no longer the original ship?

ashtray 05-15-2014 02:35 AM

My randomly assigned state license plate ends in "86". :D

Otherwise, my vin is something around 12xx, bought 6/1/12.

Prog 05-15-2014 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 1737176)
Actually not true. In some cases the VIN plate is worth as much as the car. If you can find a completely junked #1 or #2 production car of just about any model and restore it to its build sheet, the value increases tremendously.

For example, in a recent episode of "Fast and Loud" they restored the #1 and #2 Firebird, in absolutely horrible condition (which were production show cars), to "Concours standards" and sold them (including the restoration fees) for over $600,000 for the pair. The did have matching engines which helped. A "regular" first year Firebird would not sell for anywhere near that amount I do not believe.

Same is true for aircraft by the way. A good portion of WWII warbirds you see are really only "original" in data plate only. They can be totally crushed and wrecked but as long as you have that data plate, its "original".

Sort of the old adage of if you have a wooden ship and replace the planks one at a time, when is it no longer the original ship?

#1 and #2 (and probably many more early production) are probably owned by dealers. The first production 5th gen Camaro was auctioned off. Sincerely doubt that a regular person owns #1 or #2 of either the FR-S or BRZ.

Choco 05-15-2014 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpine (Post 1731928)
I bought my car used.

edit: I am 0049 not 48

https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/...09221042_n.jpg

pic for proof

Nice.

Dadhawk 05-15-2014 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prog (Post 1739615)
#1 and #2 (and probably many more early production) are probably owned by dealers. The first production 5th gen Camaro was auctioned off. Sincerely doubt that a regular person owns #1 or #2 of either the FR-S or BRZ.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prog (Post 1739615)
#1 and #2 (and probably many more early production) are probably owned by dealers. The first production 5th gen Camaro was auctioned off. Sincerely doubt that a regular person owns #1 or #2 of either the FR-S or BRZ.



That is true now, but may not be eventually depending on what the company does with them. The two Firebirds I mentioned were owned by Pontiac (production show cars), but eventually ended up in private hands.
There is also some associated value in having the earliest documented one sold to the public, which may not necessarily be the #1 serial number.


I realize we are talking BRZ here, but not sure what the numbers were on the cars the First86 drove in Long Beach. They were technically production cars and there was 7 or 8 of those. Also VP of Scion really got the first one registered to an individual, unless it was technically a company car.


Of the First86 that reported here the earliest VIN was 133 by @terrypm. Mine is 274. (http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3258) The go up into the 1xxx range based on when the particular color/tranny combination was manufactured in the run and what the distributor delivered to the dealer since they were sent over with the first shipment and cars were held in dock.


My point was that whether or not the twins become "classics" if you wait long enough an early serial number can have some "value" over later numbers for someone.


Heck I bet there is somebody out there somewhere who would pay a premium to own the first Pontiac Aztec. Of course, if you paid 200% more what would that be, $500?


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