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djmm 05-07-2014 08:22 AM

What did you do when you hit the 1000 miles mark?
 
I think I have around 250 miles left before I hit the 1000miles mark. Can't wait for it to happen.

What do you guys did when you hit that magical number? At the moment I have rev limiter set to 4000 rpm and once in awhile I let it beep past 4000 to around 5-6k. I am planning to change the rev limiter to 6500 rpm once I hit the mark.

Also I'm not sure if it's just me or not, but comparing to when the car is new, when you start to approach 1000 miles, does the car sound change? I notice that now when I accelerate especially accelerating hard, the car engine sounds louder and more raspy or "bbbrrrrrr-y"?
Or is it just me?

PS- and I still check my own car out when I get out of the car, like an idiot.

zooki 05-07-2014 09:37 AM

Donuts. :thumbup:

Figo 05-07-2014 09:42 AM

My friend took this pic for me last year when I hit 1000 miles.



http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1382463481

Chattanooga FR-S 05-07-2014 09:55 AM

I pulled over, stopped, took an odometer picture, reset the rev warning to 7k, then finally floored it to take off. I have done a couple donuts since (not looking to replace tires soon, so this will be a very, very rare thing), and I have enjoyed driving UP some curvy roads now that I can really accelerate out of the turns.

poison1916 05-07-2014 12:17 PM

Tried not to fall asleep because I was cruising on the 402 in Canada. Shits more boring than the Ohio turnpike.

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extrashaky 05-07-2014 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by djmm (Post 1720682)
Also I'm not sure if it's just me or not, but comparing to when the car is new, when you start to approach 1000 miles, does the car sound change?

The sound of mine has changed several times (or perhaps continuously) over the nearly 10K miles I have put on it. At one point it developed a growly little "brrrap" each time I shifted gears that sounded almost like an alligator burp. It still does it a little, but not as pronounced as it was around the 2K mile mark.

I have also seen differences in performance. Right around the 2500 mile mark, I felt a noticeable increase in torque (at least judging from butt dyno). Coming up on 10K miles, I think it runs and sounds better now than it has all along.

VacantSky 05-07-2014 12:39 PM

don't really remember, she's at 21k meow

brokedrifter 05-07-2014 12:44 PM

I'll let you know either today or tomorrow only 30 miles left!

Turbo95eg6 05-07-2014 01:23 PM

Patience, young grasshopper. You will get there.

Jyn 05-07-2014 01:57 PM

I was driving a backroad with a friend when I hit 1000 mile mark on the odometer. That's when I started revving past 5k on that road.

It was glorious.

Mad1723 05-07-2014 01:59 PM

Hit the rev limiter a few times :D

Chattanooga FR-S 05-07-2014 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 1721043)
The sound of mine has changed several times (or perhaps continuously) over the nearly 10K miles I have put on it. At one point it developed a growly little "brrrap" each time I shifted gears that sounded almost like an alligator burp. It still does it a little, but not as pronounced as it was around the 2K mile mark.

I have also seen differences in performance. Right around the 2500 mile mark, I felt a noticeable increase in torque (at least judging from butt dyno). Coming up on 10K miles, I think it runs and sounds better now than it has all along.

Like this? :D
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swEUhyiv3wQ"]Baby andy alligator burps - YouTube[/ame]

LXXXV1 05-07-2014 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chattanooga FR-S (Post 1720767)
I pulled over, stopped, took an odometer picture, reset the rev warning to 7k, then finally floored it to take off. I have done a couple donuts since (not looking to replace tires soon, so this will be a very, very rare thing), and I have enjoyed driving UP some curvy roads now that I can really accelerate out of the turns.


Lol me too!

HLS30 05-07-2014 03:06 PM

Why would you do anything different? It's just a number on the dash....

Considering I'm probably going to be picking up mine in Colorado and driving back to California, I'm mostly going to be bored out of my mind when I hit the 1k mark.

funwheeldrive 05-07-2014 03:11 PM

I learned to love the torque dip.

Chattanooga FR-S 05-07-2014 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HLS30 (Post 1721519)
Why would you do anything different? It's just a number on the dash....

Considering I'm probably going to be picking up mine in Colorado and driving back to California, I'm mostly going to be bored out of my mind when I hit the 1k mark.

Many people follow the recommended 1k mile break-in period (which has been discussed on the forums here ad nauseam), so hitting the 1k mile mark is a point where those drivers finally allow themselves to push the car to higher limits, if so desired.

J_kennington 05-07-2014 04:56 PM

Continued driving the same way I did when I picked it up from the dealership. However I wanted to.

SalM 05-07-2014 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chattanooga FR-S (Post 1720767)
I pulled over, stopped, took an odometer picture, reset the rev warning to 7k, then finally floored it to take off. I have done a couple donuts since (not looking to replace tires soon, so this will be a very, very rare thing), and I have enjoyed driving UP some curvy roads now that I can really accelerate out of the turns.

Hit it spot on !

CruiseZen 05-07-2014 06:31 PM

I'm only 23 miles away from 1,000 miles. So far I've mostly kept my rpm's under 4,000 with only a few very brief blips between 4,100-4,300 rpm during some spirited driving. I'm not planning on any drastic changes once I get out of the break in period. I'm thinking that I will gradually increase my maximum rpm's over the next 1,000 miles until I eventually reach redline.

I've also recently noticed a change in the exhaust note of the car. It seems louder and more aggressive. I mostly attributed it to the breaking in of the muffler.

Abraxus 05-07-2014 06:40 PM

As I posted in a previous thread, I floored it. My friend had asked me when I was going to hit it and I looked at my odo and said.. "Well shit, I just did." Ever since then I drive it like a mad man. It is, after all, only a car. An extremely legitimate car. But the baby period is over.

phobos512 05-07-2014 11:37 PM

I hit the rev limiter the first night I drove her right off the lot - not on purpose, first time driving a manual. Every time after that, it was on purpose. I don't believe in babying a car. And I call bs on anyone who posts about how a car was adult owned, never redlined, never tracked, etc. Why buy a vehicle like this to drive it like that? If that's the plan, buy a Camry. Buy a sports car, drive it like a sports car. I'm 34 in a week, I deserve to have a little fun after my 10+ daily hours in the office.

HLS30 05-08-2014 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chattanooga FR-S (Post 1721673)
Many people follow the recommended 1k mile break-in period (which has been discussed on the forums here ad nauseam), so hitting the 1k mile mark is a point where those drivers finally allow themselves to push the car to higher limits, if so desired.

I've never understood why people do this with modern cars. Unless you get one right off the factory floor, the engine is going to be broken in by the time that you get into the drivers seat. The whole "break in" period thing these days is to help people who've never driven a sports car get used to them without putting it into a ditch.

Drive 05-08-2014 12:26 AM

Took a picture.

636 05-08-2014 12:34 AM

What's a break in period? I was slamming gears the day I bought it.

It's a car made in 2012, not a 1985 Seville.

rice_classic 05-08-2014 12:55 AM

I turned it up to 11

http://media.tumblr.com/10430abfede9...7Uv1qz4rgp.gif

subiestyle 05-08-2014 01:53 AM

So those of you that followed no break-in, do you regularly take it to redline on a cold engine?

Because made in 2012.

humfrz 05-08-2014 02:03 AM

I re-set the shift light to about 6,200 rpms.

I still didn't usually crank it up past 6,200 for another 1,000 miles.

(I just ain't in that big ah hurry no more)


humfrz

HLS30 05-08-2014 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subiestyle (Post 1722960)
So those of you that followed no break-in, do you regularly take it to redline on a cold engine?

Because made in 2012.

Well, if we're going to be facetious....




EDIT: Ok, real talk here. Doing the math, if you ran the car steady state at say, 2000rpm (which is WAY low for what actual cruise RPM is) for an hour, you're looking at 120,000 revolutions in one hour. If the engine hasn't "worn in" in that time, NOTHING you can do with the engine is going to do anything more than that. I've seen NOTHING in the way of actual studies that indicate that on a modern engine there's *any* reason to break the engine in. And lets be honest, if a modern car's engine is so badly machined that it needs to be broken in, why the hell are you buying that POS anyways?

djmm 05-08-2014 06:39 AM

I follow the 4k rpm guideline as the manual actually says that.

After break in, if I put it at 7k, I'll probably never hear that rev limiter beep. Maybe I'll put it at 6k so that I can still hear it occasionally.

Chattanooga FR-S 05-08-2014 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djmm (Post 1723122)
I follow the 4k rpm guideline as the manual actually says that.

After break in, if I put it at 7k, I'll probably never hear that rev limiter beep. Maybe I'll put it at 6k so that I can still hear it occasionally.

^ This.

I figure I spent my money on this as my daily driver, something I plan on keeping for at least 10 years, so I'd rather follow the manual just to make sure it didn't come back to bite me several years from now.

If it also gave me time to get used to the car's power, handling, etc., then that's a bonus. And no, I do not always follow every rule/guideline/law/etc., but I probably stay on the more cautious side most of the time. Even with that, I still enjoy this car every time I see it or drive it, still drive it fast and twisty sometimes, and I don't feel like I really lost out on much of anything by following the manual for the first 1k miles. After all, it was only a couple weeks. :thumbsup:

extrashaky 05-08-2014 09:14 AM

A couple of things to consider:

While new engines are manufactured to better tolerances and with better materials than they once were, there is still a period in which the engine is being broken in, as evidenced by the metal particles you will find in the oil on your first oil change. This is a period when all the parts are wearing against each other to find their fit as they flex, expand and contract. An engine cannot be manufactured such that the metal does not change at all during the break-in period. Break-in is also a period when the zinc and phosphorus in the oil are bonding with the metal to help create hard, slick surfaces on the wear parts. While there doesn't seem to be as big a reason to baby these engines, they don't come from the factory the same as they are after a few thousand miles.

What's more important than limiting your revs is the break-in suggestion that you vary the load on the engine and avoid using cruise control. Driving along using the cruise control breaks the engine in at a single load and will cause the rings to seat for that load only. You want the cylinder to initially wear in a tapered shape so that the rings seat properly all the way through the stroke, but using cruise extensively during break in tends to create more wear at the top and bottom and less at the middle, so that the rings never really seat quite right throughout the stroke.

CBR600RR 05-08-2014 09:15 AM

drove to 1001 miles and beyond

J_kennington 05-08-2014 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 1723190)
A couple of things to consider:

While new engines are manufactured to better tolerances and with better materials than they once were, there is still a period in which the engine is being broken in, as evidenced by the metal particles you will find in the oil on your first oil change. This is a period when all the parts are wearing against each other to find their fit as they flex, expand and contract. An engine cannot be manufactured such that the metal does not change at all during the break-in period. Break-in is also a period when the zinc and phosphorus in the oil are bonding with the metal to help create hard, slick surfaces on the wear parts. While there doesn't seem to be as big a reason to baby these engines, they don't come from the factory the same as they are after a few thousand miles.

What's more important than limiting your revs is the break-in suggestion that you vary the load on the engine and avoid using cruise control. Driving along using the cruise control breaks the engine in at a single load and will cause the rings to seat for that load only. You want the cylinder to initially wear in a tapered shape so that the rings seat properly all the way through the stroke, but using cruise extensively during break in tends to create more wear at the top and bottom and less at the middle, so that the rings never really seat quite right throughout the stroke.

So, by that. Everyone who kept the car below x revs. Improperly "broke in" the motor. Rings are only seated up to 4k(I believe this was the magic number listed). So, anything above 4k will cause wear and tear after the "1k break in".

And yes, my car hit red line, drove all gears, hit every rpm. I'm a believer that you drive a car the same way you intend to for its life. Has worked on every motor I have ever rebuilt/bought new. From crates to 200k rebuilds.

phobos512 05-08-2014 09:28 AM

These days break-in has more to do with liability (hey, we told the owner to take it easy, it's not our fault he wrapped his car around a tree because he didn't know how to drive it yet) than with mechanicals.

djmm 05-08-2014 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chattanooga FR-S (Post 1723179)
^ This.

I figure I spent my money on this as my daily driver, something I plan on keeping for at least 10 years, so I'd rather follow the manual just to make sure it didn't come back to bite me several years from now.

If it also gave me time to get used to the car's power, handling, etc., then that's a bonus. And no, I do not always follow every rule/guideline/law/etc., but I probably stay on the more cautious side most of the time. Even with that, I still enjoy this car every time I see it or drive it, still drive it fast and twisty sometimes, and I don't feel like I really lost out on much of anything by following the manual for the first 1k miles. After all, it was only a couple weeks. :thumbsup:

Yeah especially here in Australia cars are much more expensive than in US, I thought what is a couple of months driving conservatively - at least you have peace of mind knowing that you follow what the manual says. I also plan to keep the car for a long time that's why I try not to abuse the car.

But I don't baby it either (or else what's the point of buying the car) - only plans to every now and then to rev it hard when I feel like it and when the road condition is safe.

extrashaky 05-08-2014 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by J_kennington (Post 1723196)
So, by that. Everyone who kept the car below x revs. Improperly "broke in" the motor.

Nope. Didn't say that. I wound mine out before I even had 50 miles on it.

I think Toyota/Subaru know their customers are not going to stay below 4000 RPM. What you don't want during the break-in period is constant abuse of the engine. This guideline gives you enough load on the engine to properly seat everything without abusing it while the surfaces haven't set up.

Xerious 05-08-2014 06:41 PM

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86-tundra 05-08-2014 08:12 PM

I've still yet to see any solid evidence indicating something broke due to driving hard in the break in period. The only real way to tell would be to drive 2 identical cars the exact same way after 1k miles, but hoon one and drive one like a grandma for the first thousand miles.

I dunno how many times I hit redline on the way back from the dealership.. it would probably make most of you cringe

travisb 05-08-2014 08:15 PM

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bcj 05-08-2014 08:59 PM

Two week roadtrip. Passes and canyons.


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